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With the new rules for allies, how are you going to use them? I currently have a space marine army and I am thinking of throwing in a couple of infantry blobs to run up with my space marines behind them. I'm going to paint them the same exact color scheme as my space marines and they will be one of the local regiments on my space marines planet (since it is a custom chapter). I was just wondering if anyone was going to make a fun fluffy themed list in the next couple years.

My Eldar are not going to ally with anyone, xenophobic as they are.

My Sisters are looking to pick up some IG reinforcements most likely..

I mentioned a week ago that I was coming out of retirement to help preserve the integrity of 6th edition, and as such, I would be having a 40k version of wayne's world stairway denied sign!
There will be no allies in my army/armies not even daemons for CSM.
Like I said if I want to go orks, I'll go orks, but I'd rather be dropping large templates on them, not polluting my ranks with their presense!

I am going to pretend that there are no Allies.

My DE are going to ally with eldar as I've already had my cult's fluff refurbish an old craftworld that had it's inhabitants killed by the awakening of slaanesh. For some reason I really want to use shining spears. <.<

Do_I_Not_Like_That and TedNugent, you guys must have a creative imagination.

My DE are probably gonna ally with the Orks, because Haemies, and Blood Angels Death Company, also because Haemies. I think it would work into the DE background, them using repurposed Orks and Space Marines that have taken one too many macrosteroids.

Also, when the starter set and new codex comes out, I am going to use IW CSM for allies. Just because.

DiRTWaL wrote:Do_I_Not_Like_That and TedNugent, you guys must have a creative imagination.

I don't like allies either and it has nothing to do with imagination and everything to do with balance... I certainly hope most tournament do not allow them.

No one.

I play Death Guard and I will take Nurgle Daemons, including Epidemius. That's right, I said it. Not my fault a fluffy army is overpowered. I can understand armies like orks and such not wanting allies. If however you were a WAAC player using one of Mat Ward's little creations and want to deny allies because you are butthurt from being knocked off your bloody pedastle and you want to fix it so that your opponent with an outdated Codex is still at the mercy of your broken armies, you can keep on walking. I'm going to take every advantage I can against WAAC players, since they would do the same to me.

I know it's not in the spirit of 6th edition, however my patience with their kind ran out when GK came out and every other player played them. All tournaments had GK players. It was 7th edition fantasy all over again. My allies happen to be fluff friendly, and it's not like Epidemius is hard to kill. I had him 1 shoted in my 2nd 6th edition game.

Probably either blood angels, dark angels, or space wolves. All are battle brothers to my vulkan list and all provide what I lack. Either fast moving assault, long range firepower, or a detachment of terminators. I'll also run them as my own chapter and just use the allies rules. Making them fluffy(sorta). Since I already run vulkan as a counts as captain anyways.

I'm having a lot of fun planning allies and I haven't even got my hands on a 6th edition rule book. I currently collect Necrons and Orks and while I can ally them together I've decided to collect an army that I can customise to represent an alliance.

For my Necrons I'm collecting Tau. I recently bought a set of Tau XV25 Stealth Team models, two of which I gave Necron Immortal heads the third I gave a Destroyer gun, who I can use as both allies and as an alternate set of Immortals.

I also plan to make extra Necron models that can be used as allies for the Tau once the army grows. I'm going to have a set of Necron Warriors wearing a Fire Warrior Team's armour.

For my Orks I'm thinking Chaos Daemons. I know they're ranked as Unholy Alliance which I think gives them a handicap but as designs go they'd look the least out of place running alongside my Orks, especially if I give them bits of Ork equipment. Plus the other side of the alliance will be a blast to customise. Orks infected by Chaos.

My favourite part of 40k is putting models together in new and fun ways. For me the main appeal of allies is the new options this gives me for customising. Heck I've never really had much interest in the various Space Marine armies before but now I quite like the idea of a Space Wolf/Grey Knight alliance.

Tarkand wrote:

DiRTWaL wrote:Do_I_Not_Like_That and TedNugent, you guys must have a creative imagination.

I don't like allies either and it has nothing to do with imagination and everything to do with balance... I certainly hope most tournament do not allow them.

Nothing personal, but I've been hearing this a lot, and I don't like what it implies. Tournaments who don't allow allies are throwing out a huge and important part of the new rules. I know GW is not notorious for balance, but they have at least worked on this. We've had the rules for two days, and I don't think we'll be able to judge whether allies are balanced or not for a while. Why don't tournaments throw out fliers, too, since some armies can clearly deal with them better than others? Why don't we throw out fortifications, because there aren't really any specifically for Xenos yet? At least allies allow for some leveling of the playing field between top and bottom tier armies.

Considering I have all the greater demons and quite a few lesser demon modles that I could only use generically, I think it will be quite fun to field them as what they are meant to be in my Chaos Marine list.

Chaos Daemons with a few marines added in. Can't wait for a Daemonic flying circus. Some builds aren't really going to look fluffy to all opponents, but a back story is easy. Example:
The Dark Eldar have created a new form of grotesque mutants that hunger only for battle. Their strongest creation resides in a giant piece of battle armor and directs the mutants towards the correct target. Now we suddenly have Ghazzy and boyz/nobz in a fluffy Dark Eldar army. They don't have to be painted as orks, or even have ork heads, just use the rules for the models. The job is suddenly done.

If SCs can be taken as allies and can effect the FOC I would take Dante and Sanguinary Guard. Ignoring their boost they are lulzy, bouncing around the battlefield in golden armour and fake wings. Plus it fits with my Guard which is gets pretty close to the enemy.

sverigesson wrote:

Tarkand wrote:

DiRTWaL wrote:Do_I_Not_Like_That and TedNugent, you guys must have a creative imagination.

I don't like allies either and it has nothing to do with imagination and everything to do with balance... I certainly hope most tournament do not allow them.

Nothing personal, but I've been hearing this a lot, and I don't like what it implies. Tournaments who don't allow allies are throwing out a huge and important part of the new rules. I know GW is not notorious for balance, but they have at least worked on this. We've had the rules for two days, and I don't think we'll be able to judge whether allies are balanced or not for a while. Why don't tournaments throw out fliers, too, since some armies can clearly deal with them better than others? Why don't we throw out fortifications, because there aren't really any specifically for Xenos yet? At least allies allow for some leveling of the playing field between top and bottom tier armies.

If you look at the force allocation chart, allies and fortifications are optional, so it's hardly " throwing out a huge and important part of the new rules."

I have two armies currently, neither of which will ally with the other. I haven't the monies to be buying new armies and codices, so no allies for me anytime in the immediate future.

The first and only thing I want to try initially is using that anti psyker Assassin with a Sanctioned Psyker squad or two nearby, I've been planning that since allies were dropped from the old Witch Hunters codex!

I'll most likely be building up a small Eldar attachment in the future (but not until I make more progress in getting my current DE army painted).

I''m also seriously thinking about getting some CSM as well, because holy Defilers are awesome. Maybe some SoB as well for lulz.

I'm going to have my Master's reformed traitor Space Marines team up with my reformed loyalist Sisters of Battle, and smash some greenskins. : D

Unless my mom wants to take some allies too, at which point I might smash something other than greenskins sometimes.

My army combo between the Hellfire Marines and the Sisters of the Flame is something I've been wanting to do since before I came back to Dakka and found rumors of Allies. I was honestly considering houseruling it in - since I play fairly laid-back games where the point is to have fun, rather than (super serious voice) investigating the most effective tactical and strategic decision process to attain an optimal result of facerolling.

Initially, I was a little off-put by Sisters of Battle and Space Marines being Allies of Convenience instead of Battle Brothers, until I remembered that bit of fluff I wrote months ago where the Sisters of the Flame generally mistrust the Hellfire Marines, because they're not at all sure whether the Hellfire Marines are actually on their side. But they do fight alongside each other just fine, they're just not bestest buds.

The fluff justification I came up with for Battle Conclaves and Confessors became basically a counts-as, where the harem members of the leader guy - though he's neither a Space Marine nor a Sister of Battle - would go out to fight with the Sisters of the Flame. I'd've loved to have the leader guy (represented by a Space Marine Captain), fighting alongside his pets, but I could honestly do without, rather than breaking the rules - I like to follow rules as much as I can.

I'd like to see an imperial guard army with space marine allies. Happens all the time in 40k books, and it would look cool on the board.

My Dark Eldar, the Kabal of Seekers of Isha will gladly welcome a Farseer onboard to help find the Goddess. Some Pathfinders wouldn't hurt either.

well my orks will either be borrowing some broadside or a contingent of demolishers

I'll be honest, some alliances make sense (daemons and CSM) but I've decided to go guard this edition. Remember in the fluff the universe is a vast place. Most imperial citizens would probably consider space marines to be a myth and legend and it is unlikely they have ever seen one. My army reflects this - a loyal PDF that spend most of their time fighting orks.

I think the allies rules are great for using models that I like but would otherwise have no reason to play. I'm thinking of maybe getting a CSM Daemon Prince to go with my Orks. Paint it green as the embodiment of Gork or Mork

I'm liking the idea of maybe using 'Count's as' models too in friendly games. With Orks it could work easily. Eg. use a Weirdboy as a Librarian or Rune Priest (the Weirdboy read a book once, well, he saw a book, well... sat on one) and I have some Orks in Terminator armour I was going to use as Meganobz, but in their frazzled mind they think they're Terminators.

I play a Slaaneshi Warband, I've been using lesser demons with Daemonette models (and the masque as it came with from ebay) for ages.

Now, those two units of 6 lesser demons willl become 11 Daemonettes and the Masque as the HQ <3

My IG are mostly wargames factory ones so not very many imperial insignia, so they probably will be used in my BA and CSm lists

Probably some FW Marines with the Red Scorpions color scheme.

For my CSM I will take daemons gallore, and for my IG I may go insane and bring my SoB out of retierment but then again I play for the fun