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How do?

So filming is very much underway on this not exactly highly anticipated sequel. I for one am anticipating it, because I love a bit of Indy. They’re also filming in the Scottish Borders, close to where my Dad lives.

Rumour is they’re filming war scenes at the Leaderfoot Viaduct, which coincidentally is really near a largely unexplored Roman Fortification. Why largely unexplored? Because the land owner is an inexplicably awkward sod and doesn’t want excavation.

Other locations, lifted from Wiki…

Filming began in the U.K. on June 4, 2021.[90] Shooting locations include Pinewood Studios[91] and Bamburgh Castle.[92] Scenes were also filmed at the North Yorkshire Moors Railway near Grosmont, where an action sequence involving Ford's stunt double was shot and replicas of World War II era Nazi military vehicles were seen on set.[90][93][94] Ford himself was spotted on location in Grosmont on June 7, 2021.[95][96] Phedon Papamichael will serve as cinematographer, marking his sixth film with Mangold.[97]

Interesting that they’ve gone back to the WW2 era. I do wonder if these are opening scenes, and we’ll see a de-aged Indy. Think young Indy in Last Crusades opening scenes. Something to give a bit of flavour and texture to the main story.

   
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Not too sure about this and I'm one of the few that actually liked the fourth one.
Mostly I'm just wondering how much actual Indy we're going to get, Harrison Ford is getting pretty old and I haven't heard anything about them recasting the character.
   
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Oh come on, despite Harrison Ford's wishes indy will be recast.

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Meh.

I'd be more interested if it were a 'new' Indie and a soft reboot (or whatever). Or, -gasp-, a new franchise.

This just seems mean to Ford, and probably painful to watch.
Unless they ditch the action and go for real archaeology, but that seems unlikely with all the Nazi junk.

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Voss wrote:
Unless they ditch the action and go for real archaeology, but that seems unlikely with all the Nazi junk.


I would be down for a slower/more mystery style Indiana Jones bit though. Less action set pieces, more mystery investigation. It would be neat, at least as a one off to see what it was like.

   
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Well i guess someone noticed that the 2 IJ movies that had him fighting nazis were good and the two that didn't, ahem, sucked sewage.

Hopefully this will have indy and friends fighting a resurgent nazi movement, movies about refugee nazis tryink to rebuild der reich ver common in der 50's ja?



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I don’t think the choice of the Soviets as the villain was the problem in KotCS; I actually think that the whole Cold War experiments with “psychic warfare” is a really good fit for the IJ style (particularly once you’ve got rid of actual, literal, Nazis as your potential villain). The problem with KotCS was bad script, bad CGI, poor characterisation and a whole load of other real-world stuff, unrelated to the actual core concept.

Edit: UFOs and “Chariots of the Gods” stuff also fits nicely into the Cold War era too.

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 Jadenim wrote:
I don’t think the choice of the Soviets as the villain was the problem in KotCS; I actually think that the whole Cold War experiments with “psychic warfare” is a really good fit for the IJ style (particularly once you’ve got rid of actual, literal, Nazis as your potential villain). The problem with KotCS was bad script, bad CGI, poor characterisation and a whole load of other real-world stuff, unrelated to the actual core concept.

Edit: UFOs and “Chariots of the Gods” stuff also fits nicely into the Cold War era too.


It was also a shift in the style of movie being homaged, which I don’t think people were expecting.

I still enjoy it (yes, even the monkey ropes bit).

   
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Defending "Indy in the fridge" is tricky, though.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

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No worse than Willy in the Lava really. Spesh when we saw the first victim aflame well before he was submerged.

Or being able to get an imprint of a metal object from scar tissue.

   
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No idea how this one will turn out but the first four were brilliant and I suppose for old times sake I'll just have to give it a chance.


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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
No worse than Willy in the Lava really. Spesh when we saw the first victim aflame well before he was submerged.

Or being able to get an imprint of a metal object from scar tissue.


Well, while there was no excuse for the horrible second IJ movie i do recall the first victim was set on fire by erupting flaming gasses bursting up from the lava pit. Willy's plotluck just meant there was no similar eruption in her case.

i never thought of the bit with the scars producing a readable image. I guess i assumed it worked like a brand.

While the second movie was the most offensive, the fourth's 'floating gunpowder that turns corners due to magnetism' was the most screamingly idiotic scene in any of the movies.

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Just remember they’re all super daft fantasy films at heart.

I steered clear of the opening of the Ark due to respect for the religious beliefs of others.

But….really?

Not to mention the opening scene of Raiders, where despite having had others with him, Indy legs it to the two seater airplane… Think about that. Multiple peeps. Two seater airplane.

Two. Multiple.

Awfully convenient, dontcha think?

They’re still cool like, and such a realisation affects my enjoyment not one jot. But if we’re going to heavy handedly critique Crystal Skull, we should in all fairness apply said same heavy hand to all the offerings,

Which reminds me. I’ve a boxed set of Young Indiana Jones Chronicles in dire need of watching.

Imagine that on Disney+ in a few years. Now properly old Harrison Ford, by the fire, recanting his adventures to the viewer.

A bit like this.



   
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Not to defend the IJ movies, even tho 1and 3 were the better ones by far, but the 2 seater plane scene could be explained.

Indy's partners came in on a canoe or overland (Maybe that's how the nazis followed them) while indy flew in because he forsaw taking away valuable archeological relics, and wanted to fly directly to some safe site to make it less likely they'd be stolen while plodding thru a jungle to reach civilization.

I mean that does work as a cover for the problem, i won't even try to cover the flaws in the others.

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The Ark killing Nazis fits in with the Ark killing the enemies of the Hebrews pretty well. I’ve always wondered if Raiders wasn’t written mostly to justify that one iconic scene.



   
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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
The Ark killing Nazis fits in with the Ark killing the enemies of the Hebrews pretty well. I’ve always wondered if Raiders wasn’t written mostly to justify that one iconic scene.




Seeing that one guys face melt was worth the movie. As for me, seeing nazis being killed in always good, given my personal experience with a real open neonazi.

As to the ark, in the original OT texts it was pretty indiscriminate. I mean, yeah, it killed the enemies of israel, but in once case it flipped off it's rails and an israelie rushed to put his hand on it to keep it from falling and was instantly killed for laying hands on the ark, I think that if it were divine it would be able to tell the different between an enemy and an act of desecration and an ally trying to protect it from falling damage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzzah

Interestingly enough in raiders the ark "knew" that the swastika was a pagan symbol being used by evil and burned it off the box it was in, yet no one on the team noticed this and took it as an omen. Stupid nazis.

If you want to see more movies with lots of dead nazis, try "the keep" and "the devil's rock'

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Lots of dead Nazis in Dead Snow too. Although, not in a good way!

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 Jadenim wrote:
Lots of dead Nazis in Dead Snow too. Although, not in a good way!


Now i have to look up dead snow. Lemme guess, yet another zombie movie....

Sigh. Yep.

I'm amazed the wayans bros haven't made a stupid, ugly, hateful movie called 'Zombie Movie" yet to parody this endless horde of mindless zombie movies. Or someone hasn't made "Zombieman!" to cash in on the stuporhero/zombie film mania.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Just remember they’re all super daft fantasy films at heart.

I steered clear of the opening of the Ark due to respect for the religious beliefs of others.

But….really?

Not to mention the opening scene of Raiders, where despite having had others with him, Indy legs it to the two seater airplane… Think about that. Multiple peeps. Two seater airplane.

Two. Multiple.

Awfully convenient, dontcha think?


We're told that Indy and Belloq have a history. I like to think The expedition walked overland but Jones Jnr got his mate with a plane to go there separately. He was going to double cross Belloq (before Belloq double crossed him) and the plane was the quick gettaway.
   
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It's an odd numbered entry in the franchise. Should be good.

FWIW, I actually kind of like Crystal Skull. Watching Harrison Ford play Sean Connery is rather inspired. It's got its faults, but its not the worst of the 4 by a long shot.
   
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 Matt Swain wrote:
Or someone hasn't made "Zombieman!" to cash in on the stuporhero/zombie film mania.


I, Zombie has been a television show.

I'll also direct you to Marvel Zombies, which could have potential once Marvel Studios figure out what they're doing with the X-Men and the Fantastic Four...

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 Kanluwen wrote:
This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...

tneva82 wrote:
You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... 
   
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MarkNorfolk wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Just remember they’re all super daft fantasy films at heart.

I steered clear of the opening of the Ark due to respect for the religious beliefs of others.

But….really?

Not to mention the opening scene of Raiders, where despite having had others with him, Indy legs it to the two seater airplane… Think about that. Multiple peeps. Two seater airplane.

Two. Multiple.

Awfully convenient, dontcha think?


We're told that Indy and Belloq have a history. I like to think The expedition walked overland but Jones Jnr got his mate with a plane to go there separately. He was going to double cross Belloq (before Belloq double crossed him) and the plane was the quick gettaway.


Indy and Belloq weren't on the same expedition, Indy didn't even know he was there until he showed up at the cave entrance.

The most likely situation is he recruited he crew up (or down) river outside the rainforest, and asked his pilot to land near the site.
Yes, that does mean the guides and etc are going to have to walk back through hostile territory. Its worth noting Indy isn't a kind or decent person at any point in the films.
He's a thief, tomb robber, smuggler ('I'm sure you've upheld the international treaty for the protection of antiquities,' his professor friend says sarcastically) and killer. And, you know, the whole statutory rape thing.

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While i know it won't go like this, can you imagine if Indy bit it like 15 minutes into the movie, and the rest was someone he tagged in with a letter or something to finish some great task
   
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...which leads to...

Indiana Jones and the Hot Cross buns he forgot to pick up from the bakery this morning.

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I know it's impossible, but I'd like to see indiana jones at the earths core where indy and a hawt israel agent follow nazis stealing a treasure, the spear of destiny, to the legendary inner earth pelucidar, which hitler or himmler believed in.

They fight nazis in a prehistoric world and indy ends up riding a T.Rex, the israeli agent cuts hitler's head off with excalibur and we see a triceratops eat it while it's still alive.

Hey, i can dream

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Given that they're filming in the UK, I'm guessing this is going to be Arthurian legends?

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The Grail is pretty much the main lost relic of Arthurian legend, and they've clearly already done that.

I guess maybe Excalibur? Or Arthur's tomb? But none of those really ring right.

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 Jadenim wrote:
Given that they're filming in the UK, I'm guessing this is going to be Arthurian legends?


Not necessarily. Everything being filmed in the U.K. is reported as being war scenes. With naughty Nazis and everything. So it seems likely we just have the right scenery for the scenes.

Like now Rob Roy was filmed in Ireland, but set in Scotland.

   
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You could do the 9th legion marching into Scotland and dissapearing (I read the books as a kid. Seems this myth may have become rather less certain since then).

Or there are Viking treasures one could hunt. Still been more than 2000 years of recorded history hereabouts. Surely there will be something interesting. Or go beyond d that and go all Stonehenge (where the banshees play, and they do play well).

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