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I think that's a reasonable call, we've now run through almost the knights and also every titan, there's technically a space for the Dominus knights and the as yet unknown titan chassis but logically the corrupted titan bits could slide in some time soon.
   
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I'm not sure what to think about the next release. It makes sense that the Traitor Legios book will include Corrupted Titans. But then CTs feel like something they'd first release as part of a campaign, and we never did get that Kado book they mentioned a while ago. So to me, it's possible that they save the Traitor book until after another campaign book that reveals CTs.

There's still plenty of stuff for future releases. We still have the Rapier and Reaver-Warhound 'tweener. More Psi-Titans were also teased, and I'm guessing that there will be more than one kit for Corrupted Titans. They've been seeding mentions of Rapiers into the books for a while now, so one would think they can't be THAT far away.

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The Asterius and Traitor Legios seem highly likely for the next release.

Titan wise we've just had the Warmaster so that'll probably be it for a while now. The releases schedule seems to alternate between titans and knights so I'd say a knight is up next.

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Alternating? You mean Knight-Knight-Knight-Titan?

And that may or may not happen, but IMO it would pretty disappointing for Traitor Legio players to get a single Knight variant as their "big" release.

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 Crablezworth wrote:
 Padre wrote:
So, um, hey...what about any...you know...actual News or Rumors?


Don't think there will be anything new till the volkites ship and we can confirm the cards are the same as the previewed rules.


Yeah - The Specialist Games Department is probably focusing on Space Marine and Eldar Aeronautica teases. Sometimes we get lucky and a 'real' preview turns up in an Engine Kill article but I'm not sure we will see one soon. The next real tease is probably going to be Corrupted Titans... but you never know.


I don't wanna get too excited for corrupted titans, my concern is at best we'll get some very expensive fw conversion kits.

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 gorgon wrote:
Alternating? You mean Knight-Knight-Knight-Titan?

And that may or may not happen, but IMO it would pretty disappointing for Traitor Legio players to get a single Knight variant as their "big" release.


Well, if we're going to include FW releases then technically thats Titan-Titan-Knight-Knight-Knight-Titan, which breaks even. And that isn't even including the generous selection of weapon kits for titans, which would make Knights criminally undersupported in comparison...

No, I was referring to only GW releases and thus still alternating, at least in recent times. Acastus--Warbringer--C'variants--Warmaster. Personally, I don't count the Castigator & Acheron kit as it is just a variant and was a cheap cop-out for GW to cut costs by printing two small knights on the same sprue, forcing us to purchase two banners instead of just one. But regardless it is a new sprue and technically a new kit, so we must go with it...

I too hope its a new titan as I'm one short of a min-maniple, and would prefer a new titan to enjoy.


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I don't wanna get too excited for corrupted titans, my concern is at best we'll get some very expensive fw conversion kits.


Definitely expecting this, and would be logical to be plastic-resin kits like the Psi-Titan.

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I'd argue otherwise, GW set up the sprues specifically giving loyal & Traitor armour panels. Further it would be reasonable for them to have an upgrade size(single 40k character sprue) for traitors. Now if they're going down the resin for this driveway it makes me less enthused but still buying when the come out, less $€£¥ I'm gonna spend.
   
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Necromunda get plastic weapon sprue so given time and depend on how lazy the SG team are they might turn some of the resin stuff to plastic.

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I don't count the Castigator & Acheron kit as it is just a variant and was a cheap cop-out for GW to cut costs by printing two small knights on the same sprue,


Wouldn't called those cheap in both productions and pricing, they waste huge chunk of sprue space to make body, legs, and heads again instead of making a single well planned out kit that can be used to built all 3 variants and have some extra bit shoved in.

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I wonder if they planned for the non lancer cerastus were originally planned as resin upgrades. Neither design is particularly strong vs titans compared to the lancer, and the lancer sprue has all 3 heads.
   
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Acheron's gun do 4(6 with Ignus Light) S7 auto hit per minimum banner, that is a lot of easy direct hit on Titans with flank bonus, and Ceratus happen to move very fast, and their CC weapon is decent.

They're also good at guarding titans against oncoming knights.

Lancer's lance blast (yes the blast is from the lance not the shield) still use cerastus's crappy 4+ BS with slightly better range, so they're not very threatening until they get in combat.

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Wouldn't called those cheap in both productions and pricing, they waste huge chunk of sprue space to make body, legs, and heads again instead of making a single well planned out kit that can be used to built all 3 variants and have some extra bit shoved in.



In hindsight I'd agree with that as it would have allowed FW to use existing plastic sprues, keeping the price down on their mechanicum knights.



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I'd argue otherwise, GW set up the sprues specifically giving loyal & Traitor armour panels. Further it would be reasonable for them to have an upgrade size(single 40k character sprue) for traitors. Now if they're going down the resin for this driveway it makes me less enthused but still buying when the come out, less $€£¥ I'm gonna spend.


If they couldn't go the length of an alternative Warbringer weapon sprue, which would be bought by players of both factions, then I doubt they will get out of bed for a reskinned titan which will only appeal to traitor players.

I'd love to see full plastic kits happen, though.

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I guess we can expect Titan-scale lightning guns now.

   
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If they bring something new to the table, like EMP effects, cool. Also if they do something else that isn’t already available like high RoF but weak shieldbane, but if it’s a fancy looking autocannon like it is in 30k then forget it.

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 Mr_Rose wrote:
If they bring something new to the table, like EMP effects, cool. Also if they do something else that isn’t already available like high RoF but weak shieldbane, but if it’s a fancy looking autocannon like it is in 30k then forget it.



My hope is there will be more universal wargear in the eventual traitor book. I feel like they could do some housekeeping with some of the stratagems that basically function like wargear but have the clunky having to assign to a titan first turn mechanic that can sometimes get gummed up by stuff like vox blackout. If they just moved a lot of those over to being wargear or limited wargear like 1 per battlegroup or whatever. More alternate ammo types for existing weapons, possible some that are just one use counter measures like the missiles that drop 5 inch los blockers. The more wargear the better. It's also a round about way of fixing some weapons that need love. Imagine being able to upgrade flame weapons to shoot phosphex and or cause heat pips on a certain roll.

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 Crablezworth wrote:
 Mr_Rose wrote:
If they bring something new to the table, like EMP effects, cool. Also if they do something else that isn’t already available like high RoF but weak shieldbane, but if it’s a fancy looking autocannon like it is in 30k then forget it.



My hope is there will be more universal wargear in the eventual traitor book. I feel like they could do some housekeeping with some of the stratagems that basically function like wargear but have the clunky having to assign to a titan first turn mechanic that can sometimes get gummed up by stuff like vox blackout. If they just moved a lot of those over to being wargear or limited wargear like 1 per battlegroup or whatever. More alternate ammo types for existing weapons, possible some that are just one use counter measures like the missiles that drop 5 inch los blockers. The more wargear the better. It's also a round about way of fixing some weapons that need love. Imagine being able to upgrade flame weapons to shoot phosphex and or cause heat pips on a certain roll.


The ever popular 'Titan Hunter Infantry' didn't make it into Loyalist Legios. Neither did any of the battlefield stratagems from the core set. Are they saving those for Traitor Legios? I mean... I was going to buy it anyway.

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MarkNorfolk wrote:
 Crablezworth wrote:
 Mr_Rose wrote:
If they bring something new to the table, like EMP effects, cool. Also if they do something else that isn’t already available like high RoF but weak shieldbane, but if it’s a fancy looking autocannon like it is in 30k then forget it.



My hope is there will be more universal wargear in the eventual traitor book. I feel like they could do some housekeeping with some of the stratagems that basically function like wargear but have the clunky having to assign to a titan first turn mechanic that can sometimes get gummed up by stuff like vox blackout. If they just moved a lot of those over to being wargear or limited wargear like 1 per battlegroup or whatever. More alternate ammo types for existing weapons, possible some that are just one use counter measures like the missiles that drop 5 inch los blockers. The more wargear the better. It's also a round about way of fixing some weapons that need love. Imagine being able to upgrade flame weapons to shoot phosphex and or cause heat pips on a certain roll.


The ever popular 'Titan Hunter Infantry' didn't make it into Loyalist Legios. Neither did any of the battlefield stratagems from the core set. Are they saving those for Traitor Legios? I mean... I was going to buy it anyway.

Ageed that some stratagems would be better off as upgrades.



From my understanding they're still fine to take but if an updated version exists in loyalist legios use that one basically.


It seems like we'll all have to wait till friday to see the volkite rules.

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If they couldn't go the length of an alternative Warbringer weapon sprue, which would be bought by players of both factions, then I doubt they will get out of bed for a reskinned titan which will only appeal to traitor players.

I'd love to see full plastic kits happen, though.



It really wouldn't surprise me if the original plan (before 2020) was to release an alternative weapon sprue for the Warbringer, then it got scrubbed due to production / logistics reasons. The box design lists the weapons included, implying there would be another boxed version. Plus there was a fairly long wait for what is a relatively simple resin kit, enough time to repurpose existing CAD component designs.

There was a long period last year where GW were struggling to keep many plastic kits in stock (hi plasma warlords). Perhaps they decided a whole new sprue wasn't worth the trouble when the other arm weapons are already available, and anything except the belicosa is cosmetic. Maybe another kit received the resources instead, and we'll see corrupted knights or reaver armour in plastic later in lieu of a second Warbringer kit.
   
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Definitely agree that there is something iffy with the way the Warbringer has been handled. For example, why include a weapon card with the belicosa upgrade when its already included in the plastic warbringer kit, and the warbringer can only have one belicosa anyway? Too much that doesn't add up.

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I think we are still dealing the repercussions of Titanicus being a hit.
   
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Definitely agree that there is something iffy with the way the Warbringer has been handled. For example, why include a weapon card with the belicosa upgrade when its already included in the plastic warbringer kit, and the warbringer can only have one belicosa anyway? Too much that doesn't add up.


Yep, I reckon that was a mistake on the original release, I suspect that card was meant to be the arm mounted volcano cannon (so, you know, the cards actually matched what you got in the box) but someone pasted in the carapace version by mistake. Then either no one at GW has twigged that yet, hence the extra card with the gun, or maybe the cards were already in production before anyone realised and they figured they might as well include it anyway.
   
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Warlord Volkite Destructors back in stock:

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Warlord-Titan-Volkite-Destructor-2021
   
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This looks like a nice alternative




https://www.etsy.com/ca/listing/1015000296/incinerator-arm-weapon-upgrade-for?ref=shop_home_active_22&crt=1

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Now they're talking! Sure hope they make'em for the reaver and warhound.


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Also the Reaver and Warhound variants.
   
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from bolter and chainsword, not only are they really bad, forge world's version of including the card is letting you cut out a print from the blister's backing... don't try too hard on that premium product, if you're not even going to try I welcome third party's eating their lunch.

Just for the record, you can get 2 vulcan megabolters for the price of one of these pieces of crap. The warlord one might have some use but it's not enough to get the taste out of my mouth over the waste the other two are, why even make new stuff for the game if they don't play it?



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Good news everyone!


Artisans of vaul just posted a preview of what they've got cooking up for the warmaster and it looks pretty cool. It will be available soon apparently too, as soon as test prints are done.



I'm excited to see how it looks, I kept the carapace launcher on my warmaster unglued so excited to get one for myself. One of the best things about the third party guys is there are a lot of count as weapon options just to make models that much more unique. The mortar seems like a good stand in for the missiles, makes sense that it would have corridor arc and limited ammo given the size of that thing.

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Thanks for both the Volkite and Vaul posts, Crablezworth!

Good info on both counts, even if I was hoping for a different result on the Volkites.
   
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 schoon wrote:
Thanks for both the Volkite and Vaul posts, Crablezworth!

Good info on both counts, even if I was hoping for a different result on the Volkites.



They just posted what it looks like on the big guy


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