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 xKillGorex wrote:

RazorEdge wrote:
They said last Year, they will bring back every OOP Model from the Lotr Range.

Ah that’s good to know.

Indeed, because I still need some ruffians to complete my scouring of the shire collection (already have all other models)

But are they coming back in metal or resin....?

There's a ton of characters I'd grab in a heartbeat if metal.

 jonolikespie wrote:
But are they coming back in metal or resin....?

There's a ton of characters I'd grab in a heartbeat if metal.

hell I would take Arnor even in resin

 thekingofkings wrote:

 jonolikespie wrote:
But are they coming back in metal or resin....?

There's a ton of characters I'd grab in a heartbeat if metal.

hell I would take Arnor even in resin

Well king theoden in the box is a new sculpt in plastic so I wonder if they’ll all get re sculpts or just released again in plastic form.

 jonolikespie wrote:
But are they coming back in metal or resin....?

There's a ton of characters I'd grab in a heartbeat if metal.

Depends what they were last released in. If they were metal (like the hobbit shiriffs, then they'll be in metal).
If they were resin (like Boromir of the White Tower) then it will be resin.
Also, not every oop model is getting a re-release. If they get Forge World releases, then the old versions aren't coming back. I.e. the new Swan Knights.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Boromir of the White Tower ... resin.

Heart = broken.

They're not bringing every model back, just a model for every profile. so RIP fans of Aragorn version 26..

Depends. We may very well get character series releases of characters like Aragorn as we have for Thranduil, Dain, Gwaihir etc.

Oh my...they're DOUBLING number of plastic infantry per box for FREE! They're actually less then they were before the boxes were cut!

Where did you read about that?? Amazing if true!

Ninja'd. Apparently (grain of salt time) the pic was of the new Warhammer World Catalogue.

Bad news, Adam Troke has just confirmed its a typo but related to good news

I don't know why, but i'm finding the real time facebook/dakkering kinda weird.

Overjoyed and disappointed in all under 5 minutes

The Warhammer World catalog only listed Uruk Hai Scouts, Uruk Hai Warriors, and Warriors of Minas Tirith as double-boxes (twenty four in each except twenty in the Uruk Warriors set), and then Adam Troke confirmed the price is a misprint on those three. So it is true they are moving back to the double boxes slowly, almost certainly with new Middle-earth SBG branding, but we're not getting 2007 era prices, folks.

 judgedoug wrote:
The Warhammer World catalog only listed Uruk Hai Scouts, Uruk Hai Warriors, and Warriors of Minas Tirith as double-boxes (twenty four in each except twenty in the Uruk Warriors set), and then Adam Troke confirmed the price is a misprint on those three. So it is true they are moving back to the double boxes slowly, almost certainly with new Middle-earth SBG branding, but we're not getting 2007 era prices, folks.

Well, if they make them cheaper, like they did with the stormcast, going from 5 to 10 and lowering the price per model something like 48%, then I'll be happy enough.

Yeah I doubt that they would drop the price per model by 50%, but any discount would be welcome. e.g. £25 for 24 would a £5 discount.

It's nice to see that GW goes back to betting on The Middle Earth. As others have said, it seems like a very interesting box for introducing new people to the game.

Let's wait to see what changes they have made in the rules and see if they also think a little about the ones we have been playing for many years with new things.
Dol Amroth's new poses are great. Let's see if they also get new ones from Rohan, Gondor ..

 judgedoug wrote:
The Warhammer World catalog only listed Uruk Hai Scouts, Uruk Hai Warriors, and Warriors of Minas Tirith as double-boxes (twenty four in each except twenty in the Uruk Warriors set), and then Adam Troke confirmed the price is a misprint on those three. So it is true they are moving back to the double boxes slowly, almost certainly with new Middle-earth SBG branding, but we're not getting 2007 era prices, folks.

Was it confirmed that they are going back to 20-man boxes as well?

dyndraig wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:
The Warhammer World catalog only listed Uruk Hai Scouts, Uruk Hai Warriors, and Warriors of Minas Tirith as double-boxes (twenty four in each except twenty in the Uruk Warriors set), and then Adam Troke confirmed the price is a misprint on those three. So it is true they are moving back to the double boxes slowly, almost certainly with new Middle-earth SBG branding, but we're not getting 2007 era prices, folks.

Was it confirmed that they are going back to 20-man boxes as well?

It makes sense if they are, as it's a way of reducing the price per model without actually reducing prices, which is something that GW have apparently said can never happen

dyndraig wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:
The Warhammer World catalog only listed Uruk Hai Scouts, Uruk Hai Warriors, and Warriors of Minas Tirith as double-boxes (twenty four in each except twenty in the Uruk Warriors set), and then Adam Troke confirmed the price is a misprint on those three. So it is true they are moving back to the double boxes slowly, almost certainly with new Middle-earth SBG branding, but we're not getting 2007 era prices, folks.

Was it confirmed that they are going back to 20-man boxes as well?

For those three sets, so far (two sprues per box, so 20-man for Uruk Warriors and 24-man for Uruk Scouts and Warriors of Minas Tirith)

thekingofkings wrote:

 jonolikespie wrote:
But are they coming back in metal or resin....?

There's a ton of characters I'd grab in a heartbeat if metal.

hell I would take Arnor even in resin

Heck I would gobble them up if they were cheaper. Yes I know but I still have the sour taste in my mouth how everything became more expensive for less. A reason why I quit. Only fair for me to come back is for them to do the same.

judgedoug wrote:The Warhammer World catalog only listed Uruk Hai Scouts, Uruk Hai Warriors, and Warriors of Minas Tirith as double-boxes (twenty four in each except twenty in the Uruk Warriors set), and then Adam Troke confirmed the price is a misprint on those three. So it is true they are moving back to the double boxes slowly, almost certainly with new Middle-earth SBG branding, but we're not getting 2007 era prices, folks.

As I said, only fair. Lots of us have left because of The Hobbit pricing. Can't remember when it came out. So only fair for us to come back if we got what we had before.Of course inflation included. As you said 2007 eara pricing is not fully expected but the same price wise in todays time would be fair. This is like Age of Sigmar. Prices need to be cheaper so people start. Only reason I started AoS is because prices were acceptable and rules/warscrolls are free. I don't see this here. I see 40K way. The 40K way I don't think will get lots of people playing again like AoS did.

Is there anything "free" coming out for Lord of the Rings like AoS and 40K did?

Do you tink we will see "Start Collecting" Sets for Middle Earth?

Also, they could bring back those Mounted Nazguls and repack those Riders of the Death into Packs of three.

A year of two ago GW released Stormcast Liberators in boxes of 5 for $50. Now you can get boxes of 10 for $62. Its not unrealistic at all to expect some sort of price decrease for bigger boxes.

I'm really happy we are finally getting a proper starter set for LOTR. I never understood why one was never released for WOTR, it was a fun system but it never really took off because it was more difficult to get into than 40k/Fantasy. Hope this release revitalizes the SBG at least.

Well, I would always have played Rohan if I'd taken up the game, and I've always wanted a Winged Nazghul to paint and an excuse to get some of the other kits in the game.

So while I need another game putting demands on my time and wallet like a hole in the head, this turn of events has very precisely hit a number of buttons that has me paying close attention. Much like Titanicus, a lot of it hinges on the price.

Davor wrote:
As I said, only fair. Lots of us have left because of The Hobbit pricing. Can't remember when it came out. So only fair for us to come back if we got what we had before.Of course inflation included. As you said 2007 eara pricing is not fully expected but the same price wise in todays time would be fair. This is like Age of Sigmar. Prices need to be cheaper so people start. Only reason I started AoS is because prices were acceptable and rules/warscrolls are free. I don't see this here. I see 40K way. The 40K way I don't think will get lots of people playing again like AoS did.

Is there anything "free" coming out for Lord of the Rings like AoS and 40K did?

Hobbit range was 2012-2014. While the Hobbit era plastics are more expensive than LOTR they are also of a much higher quality. Mirkwood Rangers put the old plastic Wood Elves to shame, for example. It is rather moot at this point; they've always been part of the Strategy Battle Game, and are now 100% folded into Middle-earth branded family.

However, yes, from the hints Adam Troke dropped on Facebook, it appears that everything is moving to two-sprue boxes with a price decrease. We have already seen this with the Finecast packs, which went from 3 models for $25 to 12 models for $65, a savings of 35%.

I don't think there will be any "free" stuff for SBG, but we do have a nice bonus over other ranges by having a single book for every Lord of the Rings (War of the Ring Third Age) model, profile, army, etc.


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willb2064 wrote:
I'm really happy we are finally getting a proper starter set for LOTR. I never understood why one was never released for WOTR, it was a fun system but it never really took off because it was more difficult to get into than 40k/Fantasy. Hope this release revitalizes the SBG at least.

Methinks cuz War of the Ring was always relegated to the "So, you have a million SBG models and want to play a big game? Try out this fun ruleset that Matt Ward wrote and all the studio blokes play!" and was never expected to be a serious competition game, merely an excuse to use all your toys.

I wonder if GW has gotten rights to do any of the stuff from the "Shadow of..." games.

Talion and Celebrimbor would be awesome.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I wonder if GW has gotten rights to do any of the stuff from the "Shadow of..." games.

No

judgedoug wrote:

Davor wrote:
As I said, only fair. Lots of us have left because of The Hobbit pricing. Can't remember when it came out. So only fair for us to come back if we got what we had before.Of course inflation included. As you said 2007 eara pricing is not fully expected but the same price wise in todays time would be fair. This is like Age of Sigmar. Prices need to be cheaper so people start. Only reason I started AoS is because prices were acceptable and rules/warscrolls are free. I don't see this here. I see 40K way. The 40K way I don't think will get lots of people playing again like AoS did.

Is there anything "free" coming out for Lord of the Rings like AoS and 40K did?

Hobbit range was 2012-2014. While the Hobbit era plastics are more expensive than LOTR they are also of a much higher quality. Mirkwood Rangers put the old plastic Wood Elves to shame, for example. It is rather moot at this point; they've always been part of the Strategy Battle Game, and are now 100% folded into Middle-earth branded family.

However, yes, from the hints Adam Troke dropped on Facebook, it appears that everything is moving to two-sprue boxes with a price decrease. We have already seen this with the Finecast packs, which went from 3 models for $25 to 12 models for $65, a savings of 35%.

I don't think there will be any "free" stuff for SBG, but we do have a nice bonus over other ranges by having a single book for every Lord of the Rings (War of the Ring Third Age) model, profile, army, etc.

This looks very promising. That is great if true. I didn't know Adam Troke said that. Now I am looking forward to it. Maybe I can start my small LotR collection all over again then.

Do we know if the rules will be roughly the same or will it be drastically different? I see "keywords" have been added. Is this just a small adition or will the game be different now or we don't know yet?