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**ZergSmasher**

Purifying Tempest wrote:
Like the most miniscule of boosts, but I guess it is worth pointing out now that Sacred Rose order strat for exploding 6's in the shooting phase now affects all weapons - not exclusively bolt. Weave in some melta weapons and camp 6's to get 2 automatic hits with that strat from like a multi-melta or something. Don't think it is worth building an army around, but a nice perk for that order.

Edit: Since we're on the topic of Faith and Fury - what happens when you use Faith and Fury to pass a 6 to hit onto the wound roll... and the initial hit roll spawns an additional hit, like via Sacred Rose? Is it 2 hits, 1 auto-wound, or does the second hit still see that original 6 to hit and Faith and Fury being used?

I thought they FAQ'd a similar ability in another army to not get procs from automatic hits/wounds, or something. I can't remember the specifics though.

**AduroT**

Yeah, they’ve ruled that the bonus hit is basically a separate attack with no defined hit roll. There was a very brief period where it was ruled to also be a 6, but Marines immediately busted that with rapid fire weapons causing two auto wounds on a six, and they reversed it pretty quickly.

**Purifying Tempest**

I thought about it overnight and came to the same conclusion. Still, fairly decent trick for Sacred Rose that can be back-pocketed. Don't think it'll be meta-defining or anything, but can just be another variable your opponent may not be able to predict when they're doing the head crunch leading to opportunities to up the efficiency out of your units.

**dammit**

The recycling of dice from sacred rose is much better now as well.

Now 50% on every miracle dice, rather than a 1/3 chance to get one from an act of faith. So a charge has 75% of returning at least one, and you do have a chance to recycle the beacon of faith dice into a global dice. Can't do it on incensor cherubs though, because they give you cherub dice now, not miracle dice.

There's a lot of this codex that's pushing me into a two-detachment setup and sacred rose is definitely competing for one of them.

**Purifying Tempest**

dammit wrote:
The recycling of dice from sacred rose is much better now as well.

Now 50% on every miracle dice, rather than a 1/3 chance to get one from an act of faith. So a charge has 75% of returning at least one, and you do have a chance to recycle the beacon of faith dice into a global dice. Can't do it on incensor cherubs though, because they give you cherub dice now, not miracle dice.

There's a lot of this codex that's pushing me into a two-detachment setup and sacred rose is definitely competing for one of them.

I'm still really sour on throwing away CP for multiple/specialist detachments. I think the CP has become too valuable to toss away unless you're getting something absolutely game-shattering. I guess maybe there will be room for things like battalion/patrol, but I think that CP is still going to be our most limited resource and we should put a premium on spending them.

**dammit**

I've never been CP shy, admittedly.

And looking through what we can do, I'm not seeing 17CPs worth of in-game strats, Especially with argent shroud rerolls (worth up to 5 over the game) and/or recovering some MD generation back.

Storm of retribution's gone, that was a CP sink. Advance and charge is gone, theres another. Deadly descent isn't an every-game thing any more. Fight again is gone.

A lot of the replacements are situational and/or cheaper. I don't look at that list and think 'I absolutely need to start with a tonne of CP.' If argent doesn't work out, or I can't claw back the MD then sure i'll revisit this thought.

**Tastyfish**

Interesting another Blackstone fortress model has got 40K rules with Pious Vorne getting options in the Sister's book, and Daedalosus in the AdMech one.

Wonder if we'll see Imperial Agents to bring in the Rogue traders soon.

**Kid_Kyoto**

Tastyfish wrote:
Interesting another Blackstone fortress model has got 40K rules with Pious Vorne getting options in the Sister's book, and Daedalosus in the AdMech one.

Wonder if we'll see Imperial Agents to bring in the Rogue traders soon.

Been waiting for Codex Imperial Agents since 1995 or so...

So maybe don't hold your breath.

**Kanluwen**

Tastyfish wrote:
Interesting another Blackstone fortress model has got 40K rules with Pious Vorne getting options in the Sister's book, and Daedalosus in the AdMech one.

Do you mean that Pious Vorne's model is now a generic choice for the Sisters? That's kinda cool.

Wonder if we'll see Imperial Agents to bring in the Rogue traders soon.

They did make it sound like Talons of the Emperor are going to be a thing going forward, and if that isn't a good spot for Rogue Traders and Inquisitors...then I do not know what would be.

**BrianDavion**

Kanluwen wrote:
Tastyfish wrote:
Interesting another Blackstone fortress model has got 40K rules with Pious Vorne getting options in the Sister's book, and Daedalosus in the AdMech one.

Do you mean that Pious Vorne's model is now a generic choice for the Sisters? That's kinda cool.

Wonder if we'll see Imperial Agents to bring in the Rogue traders soon.

They did make it sound like Talons of the Emperor are going to be a thing going forward, and if that isn't a good spot for Rogue Traders and Inquisitors...then I do not know what would be.

talons of the emperor refers to custodes/sisters of silence. making it a catch all book for rogue traders etc would dilute it. frankly rogue traders could easily get their own codex.

**Kanluwen**

"Talons of the Emperor" is the name for the personal forces of the Emperor during the Great Crusade, hence its application to Custodes and Sisters of Silence.

The Inquisition didn't exist at that time. Rogue Traders did, and some of their Letters of Appointment were signed by the Emperor himself or the Primarchs.

Argument could definitely be made for those two factions to get placed into the Talons of the Emperor as a 'Big Faction Book' of sorts.

**BrianDavion**

Kanluwen wrote:
"Talons of the Emperor" is the name for the personal forces of the Emperor during the Great Crusade, hence its application to Custodes and Sisters of Silence.

The Inquisition didn't exist at that time. Rogue Traders did, and some of their Letters of Appointment were signed by the Emperor himself or the Primarchs.

Argument could definitely be made for those two factions to get placed into the Talons of the Emperor as a 'Big Faction Book' of sorts.

yes except it's a poor arguement. they're not talons of the emperor. they're something else.

and rogue traders really do have eneugh rich background to have their own codex there's no reason to randomly toss one or two mini's in a codex that otherwise doesn't fit.

**Kanluwen**

That's cool and all, but what really makes Rogue Traders worthy of their own book?
They're basically just Inquisitors with goofier hats.

Using "Talons of the Emperor" as a way to bring in some of these weirder, esoteric forces without bloating the Imperium faction too much or just doing half-cocked "Guard but not really Guard" armies would be far preferable to the alternative.

**BrianDavion**

Kanluwen wrote:
That's cool and all, but what really makes Rogue Traders worthy of their own book?
They're basically just Inquisitors with goofier hats.

Using "Talons of the Emperor" as a way to bring in some of these weirder, esoteric forces without bloating the Imperium faction too much or just doing half-cocked "Guard but not really Guard" armies would be far preferable to the alternative.

Because they're not fething talons of the emperor? seriously, talons of the emperor means very specificly the custodes and the sisters of silence whom fought beside the emperor as her personal legion during the great crusade.

It is not "random gak that won't fit anywhere else"

hell the inqusition is a perfect place to bundle them together, since you're right, mechanicly they'd be very similer. powerful individuals with a excentric collection of forces in tow

**tneva82**

So don't name book talons of emperor but something else and it contains rules for talons and rogue traders. Problem solved.

Alternatirely keep traders out of game. Imperium got enough mini faction books

**jeff white**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Tastyfish wrote:
Interesting another Blackstone fortress model has got 40K rules with Pious Vorne getting options in the Sister's book, and Daedalosus in the AdMech one.

Wonder if we'll see Imperial Agents to bring in the Rogue traders soon.

Been waiting for Codex Imperial Agents since 1995 or so...

So maybe don't hold your breath.

I actually bought the book that GW produced at the end of 7th... last GW book that I may ever buy, honestly.

**H.B.M.C.**

jeff white wrote:
I actually bought the book that GW produced at the end of 7th... last GW book that I may ever buy, honestly.

Codex: Imperial Agents. Born too late. Taken too early. #Neva4Get

**Oguhmek**

I've always loved that artwork.

**Gadzilla666**

Hmm. Released at the same time as Traitor Legions it seems. Yup, definitely "born too late and taken too early". Know that feeling.

**Dysartes**

Oguhmek wrote:
I've always loved that artwork.

It is a cool piece of art.

Arguably, we won't see rules for Rogue Traders again unless they're getting a release outside of BSF - the concept of an Imperial Agents book to tidy up the =][=, the Assassins and (potentially) Rogue Traders into one book (assuming Custodes/SoS are done as Talons of the Emperor, which has been mentioned) would be a good one, I think.

Crusade content for =][= and/or Rogue Traders has the potential to be very interesting. Assassins, notsomuch...

**Fictional**

jeff white wrote:
I actually bought the book that GW produced at the end of 7th... last GW book that I may ever buy, honestly.

The real question is, did you actually pay for it?

It's the one book i got a "refund" credit for when 8th launched.

**ImAGeek**

Just seen on Twitter that one games store (Alchemists Workshops) was sent a load of the last Sisters codex for release tomorrow, not the new one. Oops!

https://twitter.com/alchemistsworks/status/1403311953058140161?s=21

**dammit**

The replies to that get obnoxious fast, in that the first reply is obnoxious.

**Lord Damocles**

This is normal. This is fine.

**Sasori**

ImAGeek wrote:
Just seen on Twitter that one games store (Alchemists Workshops) was sent a load of the last Sisters codex for release tomorrow, not the new one. Oops!

https://twitter.com/alchemistsworks/status/1403311953058140161?s=21

Wow, how on earth does that even happen. I feel bad for the store.

**H.B.M.C.**

I hope they can send 'em back for a refund/replacement at GW's cost.

**Lammia**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
I hope they can send 'em back for a refund/replacement at GW's cost.

It's normal enough for GW to write that product off and credit the store

**Mr_Rose**

Has anyone heard of any other stores receiving the wrong codex?

I know mine got the right ones.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Sasori wrote:
ImAGeek wrote:
Just seen on Twitter that one games store (Alchemists Workshops) was sent a load of the last Sisters codex for release tomorrow, not the new one. Oops!

https://twitter.com/alchemistsworks/status/1403311953058140161?s=21

Wow, how on earth does that even happen. I feel bad for the store.

Could be them doing the whoopsie. Or a moments distraction at GW.

Still not as bad as the 2010 version of the Nid Codex, which came back with the new cover, but old contents.

**Mr_Rose**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Sasori wrote:
ImAGeek wrote:
Just seen on Twitter that one games store (Alchemists Workshops) was sent a load of the last Sisters codex for release tomorrow, not the new one. Oops!

https://twitter.com/alchemistsworks/status/1403311953058140161?s=21

Wow, how on earth does that even happen. I feel bad for the store.

Could be them doing the whoopsie. Or a moments distraction at GW.

Still not as bad as the 2010 version of the Nid Codex, which came back with the new cover, but old contents.

Yeah, that was hilarious. Except for everyone that got one. Or are they rare collector’s items now?

Anyway, I can also see this being a mistake in the order. Not hard to do if the member of staff doing the order doesn’t pay attention to GW games and looks up the old code not realising there’s a new one.

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More importantly, is anyone else kinda mad they made Canonesses one/detachment like Captains now?