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2006/09/06 07:08:54
Subject: Kroot, 13th Co, L&D, Feral Orks, Speed Freeks - Army Lists Posted
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2006/09/06 07:33:26
Subject: RE: Kroot, 13th Co, L&D, Feral Orks, Speed Freeks - Army Lists Posted
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Hurray!
A hand to GW on this one.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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2006/09/06 07:34:07
Subject: RE: Kroot, 13th Co, L&D, Feral Orks, Speed Freeks - Army Lists Posted
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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are there changes?
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2006/09/06 07:38:55
Subject: RE: Kroot, 13th Co, L&D, Feral Orks, Speed Freeks - Army Lists Posted
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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I did not see any on the LATD list. It has the identical artwork etc. in the same locations as well.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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2006/09/06 07:39:07
Subject: RE: Kroot, 13th Co, L&D, Feral Orks, Speed Freeks - Army Lists Posted
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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This is great!
No more "is Eye of Terror Legal" non-sence.
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Current Armies: Blood Angels, Imperial Guard (40k), Skorne, Retribution (Warmachine), Vampire Counts (Fantasy)
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2006/09/06 07:52:28
Subject: RE: Kroot, 13th Co, L&D, Feral Orks, Speed Freeks - Army Lists Posted
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Plastictrees
Amongst the Stars, In the Night
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Shockingly awesome! Now if they'd only do the same for the SoC lists and we'll be cooking with gas.
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2006/09/06 09:39:19
Subject: RE: Kroot, 13th Co, L&D, Feral Orks, Speed Freeks - Army Lists Posted
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Omnipotent Lord of Change
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"The file is damaged and could not be repaired" is what Acrobat has to say about the Kroot file ...
Otherwise, nice work Gee-Dub, I dig it, even if I have hard copies of all these lists.
- Boss Salvage
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2006/09/06 10:01:37
Subject: RE: Kroot, 13th Co, L&D, Feral Orks, Speed Freeks - Army Lists Posted
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Fixture of Dakka
Canada
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Agreed- awesome work GW! Now we just need to have them say these lists are legal again and we're game 
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"Nothing from the outside world can be imported into Canada without first being doused in ranch dressing. Canadian Techs have found that while this makes the internet delicious it tends to hamper the bandwidth potential. Scientists are working furiously to rectify the problem. "
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2006/09/06 10:02:25
Subject: RE: Kroot, 13th Co, L&D, Feral Orks, Speed Freeks - Army Lists Posted
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[ARTICLE MOD]
Longtime Dakkanaut
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For those too lazy to cut and paste...
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"I was not making fun of you personally - I was heaping scorn on an inexcusably silly idea - a practice I shall always follow." - Lt. Colonel Dubois, Starship Troopers
Don't settle for the pewter horde! Visit http://www.bkarmypainting.com and find out how you can have a well-painted army quickly at a reasonable price. |
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2006/09/06 10:46:58
Subject: RE: Kroot, 13th Co, L&D, Feral Orks, Speed Freeks - Army Lists Posted
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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WooT! 
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2006/09/06 12:55:11
Subject: RE: Kroot, 13th Co, L&D, Feral Orks, Speed Freeks - Army Lists Posted
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Awesome Autarch
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that is cool!
but did you guys read the blurb in the SW section stating tha tthe list was legal for 2006 GT's but as for 2007, they didnt know? That could be bad tidings. I hope they keep the lists around, they add a lot of fun to the game.
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2006/09/06 13:03:21
Subject: RE: Kroot, 13th Co, L&D, Feral Orks, Speed Freeks - Army Lists Posted
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Krazed Killa Kan
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Wow, BattleWagons aren't 0-1 for Heavy Support in this list anymore.
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2006/09/06 13:27:57
Subject: RE: Kroot, 13th Co, L&D, Feral Orks, Speed Freeks - Army Lists Posted
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Clousseau
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Yeah, but I didn't see the option of buying the warboss a bike listed (unless that's in the regular Ork faq for 4th ed. and not the KOS faq).
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2006/09/06 13:57:54
Subject: RE: Kroot, 13th Co, L&D, Feral Orks, Speed Freeks - Army Lists Posted
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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From the LatD page- "For all other games, you will need to get your opponent's permission before playing." That really sucks. I don't know many people who would object to someone fielding LatD, but it sucks that you have to ask. So I guess it's semi-official. It's okay at GT's, but you have to check to see if RT's are allowing it. That really makes me confident about converting and painting an army. Oh yeah.
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2006/09/06 14:04:08
Subject: RE: Kroot, 13th Co, L&D, Feral Orks, Speed Freeks - Army Lists Posted
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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Posted By The Crawling Chaos on 09/06/2006 6:57 PM
From the LatD page- "For all other games, you will need to get your opponent's permission before playing."
Translation - We have made an army that is sub-par for playing, requires extensive conversion and, as an added bonus, you may not be able to play in events. We are GW, we love you. Morons.
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2006/09/06 14:22:46
Subject: RE: Kroot, 13th Co, L&D, Feral Orks, Speed Freeks - Army Lists Posted
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Plastictrees
Amongst the Stars, In the Night
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Posted By The Crawling Chaos on 09/06/2006 6:57 PM
From the LatD page- "For all other games, you will need to get your opponent's permission before playing." That really sucks. I don't know many people who would object to someone fielding LatD, but it sucks that you have to ask. So I guess it's semi-official. It's okay at GT's, but you have to check to see if RT's are allowing it. That really makes me confident about converting and painting an army. Oh yeah.
It could be worse, you could've paid $25 for the Storm of Chaos book a little over two years ago and built one of the armies for it only to have GW put it out of print and say it is no longer tourney legal! Ain't that sweet?
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2006/09/06 14:40:36
Subject: RE: Kroot, 13th Co, L&D, Feral Orks, Speed Freeks - Army Lists Posted
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40kenthus
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Posted By nyarlathotep667 on 09/06/2006 7:22 PM It could be worse, you could've paid $25 for the Storm of Chaos book a little over two years ago and built one of the armies for it only to have GW put it out of print and say it is no longer tourney legal! Ain't that sweet?
That sounds suspicously like my $580 dollar Daemonic Legion.
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2006/09/06 15:32:08
Subject: RE: Kroot, 13th Co, L&D, Feral Orks, Speed Freeks - Army Lists Posted
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Regular Dakkanaut
Seattle, WA, USA
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Great, so they clarified the wording on the 'Can the Warboss take a Super Cyboar if he doesn't have a retinue and Pigdok' question... but put back the typo in the Madboyz disturbed table and reverted Squiggoths to the rules-nightmare 'Monstrous Transports' that they originally were. Doh.
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2006/09/06 15:33:30
Subject: RE: Kroot, 13th Co, L&D, Feral Orks, Speed Freeks - Army Lists Posted
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Regular Dakkanaut
Seattle, WA, USA
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Hahahahaha and they reverted to the first printing KoS list with 0-3 Looted Vehicles and 0-3 Battlewagons. Hahahahaha!!!
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I should be painting. |
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2006/09/06 15:48:31
Subject: RE: Kroot, 13th Co, L&D, Feral Orks, Speed Freeks - Army Lists Posted
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Infiltrating Moblot
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Well Canadian HOH organizers have categorically said that SOC and EOT will never be banned here... so come play up north/ to the west!!
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2006/09/06 16:02:54
Subject: RE: Kroot, 13th Co, L&D, Feral Orks, Speed Freeks - Army Lists Posted
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Fixture of Dakka
Canada
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Posted By Dice Monkey on 09/06/2006 7:40 PM Posted By nyarlathotep667 on 09/06/2006 7:22 PM It could be worse, you could've paid $25 for the Storm of Chaos book a little over two years ago and built one of the armies for it only to have GW put it out of print and say it is no longer tourney legal! Ain't that sweet?
That sounds suspicously like my $580 dollar Daemonic Legion.
No- I'm pretty sure he's talking about one of my armies.
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2006/09/06 16:08:04
Subject: RE: Kroot, 13th Co, L&D, Feral Orks, Speed Freeks - Army Lists Posted
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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Posted By nyarlathotep667 on 09/06/2006 7:22 PM
It could be worse, you could've paid $25 for the Storm of Chaos book a little over two years ago and built one of the armies for it only to have GW put it out of print and say it is no longer tourney legal! Ain't that sweet?
So does GW hate us personally, or do they just hate taking our money. They obviously don't want any more of it.
Maybe the money bin is full.
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2006/09/06 17:40:25
Subject: RE: Kroot, 13th Co, L&D, Feral Orks, Speed Freeks - Army Lists Posted
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Regular Dakkanaut
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At least they are giving warning that these may or may not be legal. First time GW has ever done a caveat emptor on any of their stuff. I have much respect for that. You can build it, but don't biatch when it's not legal in tourneys
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Golden Demon standard?? I can barely paint Great Unclean One standard! |
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2006/09/06 21:14:08
Subject: RE: Kroot, 13th Co, L&D, Feral Orks, Speed Freeks - Army Lists Posted
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Regular Dakkanaut
Basingstoke, UK
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These lists are banned in UK GTs
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Poi
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2006/09/07 01:45:58
Subject: RE: Kroot, 13th Co, L&D, Feral Orks, Speed Freeks - Army Lists Posted
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Revised versions of the Ork Lists will go up today with the updated Speed Freeks Heavy Choices and revised Squiggoth Rules. Articulate and helpful questions and suggestions about any other revisions I missed are welcome.
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2006/09/07 01:57:59
Subject: RE: Kroot, 13th Co, L&D, Feral Orks, Speed Freeks - Army Lists Posted
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Krazed Killa Kan
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So KoS has a "opponents consent" disclaimer now? Why am I suddenly weary of starting my Warboss on a Bike conversion along with putting together the other Trukks I own?
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2006/09/07 01:59:13
Subject: RE: Kroot, 13th Co, L&D, Feral Orks, Speed Freeks - Army Lists Posted
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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The permission thing is so stupid. Those of us who went out and made LatD armies don't like being told we cannot use our previously-legal army like that. I love my LatD force... why the hell shouldn't it be legal all the time?
I did notice this in the rules for the first time:
'The Boss may purchase up to 15 points worth of weapons and wargear allowed by the Chaos Space Marine armoury (but no Marks, Gifts or other items).'
Or any other items? Ok, so he can purchase 15 points of wargear and weapons, he just cannot take any items from these lists. Good.
BYE
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2006/09/07 02:34:08
Subject: RE: Kroot, 13th Co, L&D, Feral Orks, Speed Freeks - Army Lists Posted
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Dakka Veteran
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Why not quote the whole thing:
"Is This List Official?
This list was legal for the 2006 U.S. Grand Tournament, whether it or not it will be in the 2007 tournament season remains to be seen. If you wish to use this list in Rogue Trader or other Tournaments, we recommend you check with the tournament organizers first. For all other games, you will need to get your opponent's permission before playing."
Being a disapointed LatD player, I can't help but feel that the next step is, "Bye bye, LatD."
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I think I'm going to start a charity for the terminally stupid. You can be our spokes person. -- H.B.M.C.
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2006/09/07 03:23:40
Subject: RE: Kroot, 13th Co, L&D, Feral Orks, Speed Freeks - Army Lists Posted
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Hey guys,
On the "Legality" issue. The revised lists being uploaded are having the opponents permission line removed. These were legal lists when they came out, and they will stay that way.
As for tournaments - all of these lists will be legal for the 2007 GT season. They will also be considered legal for the standard RTT guidelines. As always, individual RTTs can do what they like in terms of allowing and disallowing things, but for the standard rules they are legit.
More info will be coming soon about the exciting new Tournament plans for 2007. We'll be unveiling all that very soon!
Jeff Hall
GWUS Community Manager
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2006/09/07 03:31:54
Subject: RE: Kroot, 13th Co, L&D, Feral Orks, Speed Freeks - Army Lists Posted
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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Jeff, that's great news! Thanks for letting us know. I have a GS cult army planned using the LatD list, but I'm still a little wary about starting it due to the rumors about a new Chaos codex in late 2007. There were also rumors about multiple Chaos codicies, but I think the SM template (main Chaos book, separate World Eater, Death Guard, etc. books with "upgrade" sprues) is more likely than a separate LatD book. I wouldn't be surprised to see them "include" LatD in the regular Chaos book by creating a Mutants entry in the main list, or something like that. 
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