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In response to the discussion question on pre-painted figures, would Dakkites buy them?

I used marines as an example but I can see them making a pre-painted box of troops for all the major factions.

I could only really see them pre-painting in one chapter theme such as Ultra Marines. It would bee to costly to keep overhead of multiple chapters, and UM seem to be the basis for the codex.

If I was just starting the hobby, I would probably start with pre-painted units. Currently, however, I would rather buy unpainted to put them together myself and create my own theme. Painting is much more fun than playing to me, even if I do suck.

Yes, It would be easier to start a new army and get a feel of it without having spent 2 month of effort before. It would also be easier for people to start in the hobby. By being able to play rigth away instead of having to start by painting and seeing they do not like painting they would not stop there before they have really began to play the game.

I have a lot of friend that like strategy and wargame but stay away from miniature games because of the painting and assembly.

Selling pre-painted models may or may not be a good idea.
For every person theat buys prepainted there will be someone who will never buy them.
Removing mould lines would be problematic.
Either they do it and it costs a fortune or I do it and marr the prepainting.

I'd be interested in pre-base coated.
A neutral colour applied with automated quality.

I would definately not buy them.  Part of the fun for me is coming up with my own color scheme for different units if I want to, and pre-painted models make this difficult.

 While I really like actually playing, I think painting is a big part of wargaming, and part of what makes your army your own.  Again, pre-painted models would make this difficult.

I wouldn't buy them because I don't play Marines. Furthermore, no matter how much I hate painting, isn't that one of the mandatory parts of this... hobby?

Even I didn't pick yes, and I WILL be offering painted space marines.

I picked "based on quality," because there is no point in Clix-grade product in a market that's all about quality and art.

Customization is something else no none has really touched on much in the "prepainted" threads. Prepainted will not give people customized colors or assembly. This is a huge dimension of value.

Paint-on-demand can do this, and a successful paint-on-demand model would blow prepainted out of the water. The catch? Still wouldn't appeal to more than a third of wargamers anyway, even for high quality and comparable cost.

I voted for yes as a secondary army. I agree that the converting and painting aspect of the hobby is an important one, and it's one that I enjoy. But it takes a lot of time and effort. So if I could get say a Dark Angels or Space Wolves army to play with that wasn't too crappy looking, without putting all of the time into it, yeah I might.

I think one of the things that appeals to me about the idea is that I wouldn't want to field an army that someone else painted because it's assumed that you paint the army you play, so it would feel like taking the credit for someone else's work. But if there's a prepainted army that's obviously the official GW studio prepainted minis, then nobody would think that they're your work. But maybe I'm weird like that.

Of course they'd have to be better quality than Clix. Those just don't do it for me. With the exception of Cthulhu. Cthulhu just rocks. If GW made prepainted minis with the quality of Cthulhu I'd buy them in a minute. No question.

I'd certainly consider it. If they were no more expensive than unpainted ones and were of a reasonable quality I'd consider it. Particularly for something that I fancied playing but not painting.

As things stand, I find that I buy stuff to play with that I fancy painting. This is one of the reasons why I got into LoTR and BFG and Epic for GW, but have stayed away from WFB and 40k - a preference for the kind of models produced in those games. It is also why I have got big into LotOW, WARMACHINE and Confrontation and various historicals - a hankering after painting the models.

This means I stay away from armies and systems that I may fancy/enjoy playing otherwise. Getting prepainted minis for those systems would sucker me in if they were decently painted (as the Rackham and Mongoose ones seem to be). I'm already clearing a slot in my 2007 birthday wishlist for Battlefield Evolution - I really fancy the milieu, but could never be bothered to paint all that khaki. If GW were to do it, I could see myself playing WFB or 40k. Of course the price might be prohibitive still, so there is a trade off. If Macragge came prepainted for instance at the existing price point I'd get into it, but if I had to still shell out £400 for a playable army I'd stay away.

I would rather eat my own foot.

It may sound elitist but having to paint your army is one of many tests of the game. It proves you have the patience, and effort to play the game.

I'd be a little pissed off if I had spent hours painting my army only for all my opponents to have the same pre-painted crap- then we really would just be playing with toy soldiers.

I guess Western society is all about getting fat and lazy as quickly as possible by doing the minimal amount and expecting instant gratification- I think I'll pass.

reasons for:saves me lot of time to paint (i still cant be bothered to paint my predator and finish off my berzerkers)

reasons against: you cant convert anything if its painted,unless you feel like repainting them -again-

so its a little bit of a pain

I can't paint. I'm terrible at it. I probably have over 1000 minis by now. Maybe 100 are painted.

But I really enjoy building and converting. I would never buy pre-painted, pre-build minis for 40K. Not in a thousand years. In fact, I'm less interested in Starship Troopers now because of what they're doing.

BYE

Depends. I tend to base-coat my minis first, in order to get an army on the table, and then go back through one unit at a time and highlight them to a finished standard (or at least as close as I can come to it). If the prepainted figs were painted well enough that I could do the same with them I would be tempted, at least for core/troop choices.

Posted By the cabbage on 09/07/2006 3:01 AM
I would rather eat my own foot.

That doesn't really anser Kyoto's question. I mean, is your foot particularly tasty?

BYE

I'm not saying every army must be completed and painted to Heavy Metal standard for me to deem it fit for playing.

It could be an army of grey and metal with 1 - 2 units painted by a blind 5 yr old but it would still show he's put some time and effort into his army. (Ok, perhaps a bad example, as that usually shows he's scraped his brother's old mini's from under his bed- but you get the point.).

if the pre painted marines are better painted than i could paint them then i would buy them if they were not to pricey.

Posted By H.B.M.C. on 09/07/2006 5:00 AM

Posted By the cabbage on 09/07/2006 3:01 AM
I would rather eat my own foot.

That doesn't really anser Kyoto's question. I mean, is your foot particularly tasty?

BYE

Apparently it is.

*Granpa Simpson* Hey, give me a slice!

I would if they were cheap... unlikely

I would if there were no mold lines.. also unlikely

I would if they were a good quality, like 'eavy metal standards..

Since that would never happen I wouldn't never buy it. Infact even at todays prices I wouldn't buy it.

Cause when i think hey these are just toys for a game, $50 Au for 10 marines is murder

I am a pretty good painter, but still I voted yes. In the past I have owned and sold a fully painted Death Guard cultist army (pre- codexV3), Iron Warriors(pre- codexV3), and World Eaters army. I have also painted and sold a friends Ulthwe army. I recently painted a Thousand Sons army. Well, I still need to finish it. But, it was for a friend. Nowadys it seems like I am painting more stuff for other people instead of myself. I also run a 40k club for high school kids (sometimes younger because the middle school kids show up and sometimes older because the parents want to play. Prepainted would be awesome for them.

Right now I have a Space Marine, LatD, Word Bearers, and Emperor's Children army in the box. Yet, all I have managed to paint for myself in the last two years is my Imperial Guard. I don't think I would buy the majority pre-painted, but I could see buying some prepainted. I could see me snatching up Ultra Marines or whatever they decided to put out in the way of marines, Orks, Tau, Night Lords, and Alpha Legion.

There are a lot of people out there both willing and able to pay for painted minis. Many more would if they could just buy them painted right off the shelf.

I would say that I'd also rather eat cabbage's foot....but working in the health care field, I've seen some pretty rotten feet, so I'll just say hell no.

In my opinion it is one of the skills that is required for the hobby. It's sort of a rite of passage if you will. Now you may try painting and find that no amount of practice will improve your skills with paint and brush, and that's fine to then pay an exhorbitant fee to have your army painted. But you should at least make an attempt and invest a little blood sweat and tears into the army. There are enough people who change armies as often as they change their underwear as it is...let alone if the damn things were pre-painted and they had no emotional investment whatsoever.

Plus how crap are you gonna feel when you roll up to the local gamng club and everyone takes one look at your prepainted mins and laughs. God for kids maybe but look at the young bloods competition at golden demon. Anyone using pre painted would be treated like second class citizens whether its right or not. Plus you miss the pride when people comment on how good your army looks when you've painted it yourself.