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SamusDrake wrote:
It could very well be exactly that, lord_blackfang; just rules and no models.



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 Crablezworth wrote:

Also, this may be nitpicking, but this is terribly written, The ability is fine, but you could literally just show a weapon card, I can't actually believe someone wrote: "short range T, long range -, dice value D3, S5 and the firestorm and fusion traits."



I'm excited for the book, bit confused why slanesh doesn't get anything.


It's not a weapon on a card, easy as that. Doesn't take slots, won't detonate, yadda. Now as to why they didn't write it out like other things that shoot, like Battlefield Assets with their statlines, who knows.

On the other track, why wouldn't Slaanesh have as much everyone else? Most stuff here is power-agnostic, weird warp shenanigans work for all facets of Chaos.

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I'm sure if GW can't be arsed to make some conversion kits, someone will.


Naturally! Battlebling will likely answer that call.

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 Nurglitch wrote:
Seems kind of obvious that GW will release models that are covered by the rules; the rules are just marketing copy to get you to buy the models.


Then they would've previewed or at leasted teased them, eh?

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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:


Then they would've previewed or at leasted teased them, eh?


They could be Forgeworld releases, soon to follow...

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Ok, NOW I'm interested in this game. Want to cinch the deal gw? Give me some Chaos specific Titans. And an IMPERATOR!
   
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SamusDrake wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:


The Iconoclast is plastic, no?


Not been confirmed whether its a GW or FW release, and we're all using our best judgement at this point to suggest that its a plastic kit.


It's a plastic kit almost certainly, they've shown what looks to be the box art, it's on the cover of the traitor book too. I can't for the life of me see marketing it as one thing and have it actually be a collection of resin upgrades, last go around the loyalist book dropped at the same time as the warmaster, I can't see gw having just the traitor book on offer while having to go to forgeworld for the iconoclast, I just don't see it.


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SamusDrake wrote:
 Albertorius wrote:


I'm sure if GW can't be arsed to make some conversion kits, someone will.


Naturally! Battlebling will likely answer that call.



Ya I can't wait to see what they come up with for corrupted bits.

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 Crablezworth wrote:


It's a plastic kit almost certainly, they've shown what looks to be the box art, it's on the cover of the traitor book too. I can't for the life of me see marketing it as one thing and have it actually be a collection of resin upgrades, last go around the loyalist book dropped at the same time as the warmaster, I can't see gw having just the traitor book on offer while having to go to forgeworld for the iconoclast, I just don't see it.


Like I said, we're using our best judgement in place of a confirmation.

The picture might be an image taken from within the traitor legio book, and its worth keeping in mind that Defense of Ryza featured a Megaera knight on the front cover and that ended up a FW kit, much to my disappointment.

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I know a lot of people were expecting more chaos-warped titans with this book. A little unfortunate, but the future is still mighty uncertain for a lot of this.

Either way, excited to finally be getting the other side of this book, since it means that most of the Legios are covered in 2 books instead of... like 8
   
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Given that Titanicus game that's in alpha/beta on Steam, that it has a Banelord, and that GW often gives various licensees information regarding upcoming releases well before the public, I'd've thought that this traitor book would have God-specific Titan miniatures.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Given that Titanicus game that's in alpha/beta on Steam, that it has a Banelord, and that GW often gives various licensees information regarding upcoming releases well before the public, I'd've thought that this traitor book would have God-specific Titan miniatures.


Yeah same. Maybe a future book? Loyalist and Traitor Legios could simply be a way for them to condense legio and knight information.
   
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Given that Titanicus game that's in alpha/beta on Steam, that it has a Banelord, and that GW often gives various licensees information regarding upcoming releases well before the public, I'd've thought that this traitor book would have God-specific Titan miniatures.


Yeah same. Maybe a future book? Loyalist and Traitor Legios could simply be a way for them to condense legio and knight information.


Yeah, the loyalist and traitor books are more compendiums than campaign books.
   
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I never thought a Banelord would require a whole new kit. A head bit, a tail bit, and maybe some different armor plates for the Warlord and you’d pretty much have it in terms of something looking like the old model. Fluff/rules wise I also didn’t expect Banelords to be things stamped out by Banelord factories. Rather Banelord is the term for a Warlord that’s been corrupted by Khorne. Which I hazard to guess the Corrupted Titan rules will allow us to create. The rules teased by the loyalist book suggest more going on with mutations etc than this article explains.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Given that Titanicus game that's in alpha/beta on Steam, that it has a Banelord, and that GW often gives various licensees information regarding upcoming releases well before the public, I'd've thought that this traitor book would have God-specific Titan miniatures.


It is GW and printed materials...it will be a drip drip release of generic Traitor/corrupted book then further ones for God specific. It will see them cover 2022 releases for AT easily and possibly beyond.

The good thing is the past few days on his social media Taro Model maker has been building AT kits and seems very enthusiastic about their level of detail and releases that he can add to the range.

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Excellent news on the new book. We all knew it was coming, but nice to see that it will be soon now.

Some interesting thoughts above on Chaos-God-specific books. In could see the next few campaign books covering 1-2 of the pantheon that were involved in a specific action.

And Taro has been looking at AT for some time now. This is the perfect opportunity to step into the fray. The quality of his stuff is excellent.
   
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 schoon wrote:
Excellent news on the new book. We all knew it was coming, but nice to see that it will be soon now.

Some interesting thoughts above on Chaos-God-specific books. In could see the next few campaign books covering 1-2 of the pantheon that were involved in a specific action.

And Taro has been looking at AT for some time now. This is the perfect opportunity to step into the fray. The quality of his stuff is excellent.


I believe he's making stuff for battle bling now as well.

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And just like that today his Instagram has a picture of a test piece for a Warlord Titan Devotional Bell.

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Has there been any rumors of adding super-heavies into AT?

Leviathans, Shadowswords, etc?

 
   
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Has there been any rumors of adding super-heavies into AT?

Leviathans, Shadowswords, etc?


It's not gonna happen. You can already just field some tank models and use them to count as battlefield assets like macro cannon batteries. There's also titan hunter infantry as well already in the game. We use them in pretty much every game. The first example of the macro battery doesn't tend to mess things up too much because it goes before everything else in the strategy phase, but the titan hunter infantry are a good example, a few on both sides can be really great, but each base is an activation in the combat phase, like, the same as a titan or even squadron of titans, so it can get unhinged really quickly with too many small activations. I just don't think it's mean to be epic, it can have a splash of epic for scale but too much takes away from the stompy robots. Hell even too many knights can be less than great experience in a game about titans like knights are cool but whole factions made of knights don't even work that well in game already. I'd be stoked to see gw release more epic scale models but I don't think it'd be good for the game.

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Posting these pics only to show we have no problem fitting some cool super heavies or armigers or little infantry into the game as it currently stands, but fielding too many little things like this can actually have some weird ramifications for game balance. AT is alternating activation, but little activations like titan hunters can really throw a curveball into the balance. For one, you can already have games where one side has perhaps double the activations, and the problem is, alternating activation is fairly balance but the "tail end" effect, ie when the side with only activations (think titans) has done them all, the other side with 6 activations can basically do the bottom half of the turn in sequence one after the other. This isn't necessarily the end of the world, but if you add 2 units of titan hunters into the mix (this is 4 activations) and the other side doesn't have any, you could have 10 activations to 3 in the combat phase.












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The AT team have been very clear that they are only doing titans within AT.

IF they decide to do tanks or anything else its going to be a totally separate game.

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Only rumour I've heard so far is that titanicus will be scrapped after next year.

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SamusDrake wrote:
Only rumour I've heard so far is that titanicus will be scrapped after next year.


I mean... They don't have much to add if they're unwilling to add Xeno or Chaos titans.

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And they just did chaos titans.

 
   
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SamusDrake wrote:
Only rumour I've heard so far is that titanicus will be scrapped after next year.


Spoken by some rando on 4chan of all places within a set of rumors that are already looking dodgy.

We have probably two more main Titan chassis to come. There could also be variant kits of those. Corrupted Knights will almost certainly happen. More Psy-Titans have been teased. Still plenty to sell, and it does sell.

Right now we’ve only had two chassis plus the Warlord Psy and a bunch of Knights added to the original three in the years since the game’s release. So if the game ends next year, it should be a Titaniterrific 12 months and we’ll all be broke.

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SamusDrake wrote:
Only rumour I've heard so far is that titanicus will be scrapped after next year.


Spoken by some rando on 4chan of all places within a set of rumors that are already looking dodgy.

We have probably two more main Titan chassis to come. There could also be variant kits of those. Corrupted Knights will almost certainly happen. More Psy-Titans have been teased. Still plenty to sell, and it does sell.

Right now we’ve only had two chassis plus the Warlord Psy and a bunch of Knights added to the original three in the years since the game’s release. So if the game ends next year, it should be a Titaniterrific 12 months and we’ll all be broke.


Then with no other rumours on the radar, the case is closed. No tanks on the horizon.

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 Moopy wrote:
And they just did chaos titans.


-no?

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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
 Moopy wrote:
And they just did chaos titans.


-no?


As in we just got rules.

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