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SamusDrake wrote:

Hopefully they wont screw us over with resin tax for the Dominus. With any luck the next expansion will be knight focused to accompany them with a dash of scout titans. Rapiers, already! And Freeblades definitely need looking at, if only to make the Avenger and Bolt cannons actually useful! If they did that I'd put an order in straight away for the Castigator & Acheron set.



With how small the armiger is that'd easily be the cheapest investment for GW into plastic, look like they can easily fit into a half size sprue. Out of money again? just ditched the thin cardboard,and printed it on black and white paper, out of ink? just slap the link, here go print it yourself we don't have money!.

Not sure how a dominus would fit on a sprue, probably like acactus. Dominus would surely be a huge game changer, assuming they didn't get the acactus treatment.

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Still prefer smaller thing made for this game as oppose to keep making bigger kit, that'd defeat the point of this game in the first place, maybe we get some of the stuff made into plastic from resin like Necromunda, we only need to wait 2-3 years for that to come....

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This is pretty interesting. We've now got the smallest possible Knight option and the largest possible Titan option (minus the Imperator).

This leaves the Dominus as the only Knight we're really missing.

Then there's the Nightgaunt, which is Warlord-scale but more close-combat focused.

The Jackal is a heavily shielded Warhound.

And then the Rapier, which is a mysterious scout titan.

I figure it's just a matter of time before we see more of these options. Some, like the Jackal/Mastiff could simply be an upgrade sprue for the Warhound, and the Nightgaunt could be an upgrade sprue for the Warlord.

I also figure we'll continue to see FW put out more weapon options for the various titans. The Warmaster titans are just begging for more weapon options.
   
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Chopstick wrote:


With how small the armiger is that'd easily be the cheapest investment for GW into plastic, look like they can easily fit into a half size sprue. Out of money again? just ditched the thin cardboard,and printed it on black and white paper, out of ink? just slap the link, here go print it yourself we don't have money!.

Not sure how a dominus would fit on a sprue, probably like acactus. Dominus would surely be a huge game changer, assuming they didn't get the acactus treatment.

Spoiler:


Still prefer smaller thing made for this game as oppose to keep making bigger kit, that'd defeat the point of this game in the first place, maybe we get some of the stuff made into plastic from resin like Necromunda, we only need to wait 2-3 years for that to come....


The Dominus is roughly inbetween the Q and C, I think. Probably both Castellan and Valiant on the same sprue and then packaged double, like the Cas'n'Archy set.

And yes, small is a good thing. I'm glad about the Warmaster as it helps the larger point games, where a player might not want the hassle of painting multiple titans. But when running a game that involves a knight army, its best to switch to smaller titans for a more balanced game. As much as I whine about Titanicus, we've got on alright with everything up to the reaver in size. The only stumbling block was the Acastus, on release and in their nerfs, but I've managed to rework my House force around its limitations.

The Imperator has to happen eventually, but for now it would be awesome to have the Dominus and Rapier - or a titan inbetween the hound and reaver.


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He was quite a character, wasn't he?

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drbored wrote:
And then the Rapier, which is a mysterious scout titan.

I figure it's just a matter of time before we see more of these options. Some, like the Jackal/Mastiff could simply be an upgrade sprue for the Warhound, and the Nightgaunt could be an upgrade sprue for the Warlord.

I also figure we'll continue to see FW put out more weapon options for the various titans. The Warmaster titans are just begging for more weapon options.


I was expecting a Scout Titan about the same time as Traitor Legios, but COVID delay may have pushed that well into '22.
   
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I think no other kit being release (or even preview) have more to do with Warmaster being the biggest plastic kit ever produced by GW.

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Is the Warmaster larger than the 40K Knights?

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SamusDrake wrote:
Is the Warmaster larger than the 40K Knights?


Roughly the same size. But the largest plastic model by far is the Stompa.
   
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And that smaller than the Castellan.
   
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It's the biggest kit not the biggest model, the size of the model is irrelevant, they could make a giant stick figue with stick stacking on top of each other and make the biggest model ever with just 1 or 2 normal (bloodbowl/necromunda) sprues.

Being on 4 + 1 of the largest sprue took astronomical amount of time and resource to make, that's more than anything plastic GW willingly to produce and release in such short amount of time for 1 unit, and this is a side game, not even a 40k/AoS "safe investment" proudct

For a memory refresher nowaday you get the Canis Rex knight on 4 big sprues + 1 bloodbowl/necromunda sprue, but you didn't get that back in 2014, you get the "palladin" knight on 3 sprue, in 2015 they add another sprue for the other variant, and finally in 2018 for Canis Rex.

So a more obvious speculation is that the massive kit drained all the budget allowance and time for the game, leading to no other kit being release, or even preview, because if they really did anything else we would have seen it over the year, the pandemic is not the reason.

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Considering that its plastic I wonder if all the Specialist games are currently having a core issue in that its not investment or design work; but simply that GW is having trouble finding slots for their production alongside everything else. It could be they are sitting on a huge bunch of things for them which are just languishing because GW has bigger fish to sell and stock and are waiting for things to ease up a bit.

There's a dragging-heels feeling and its hard to pinpoint, form the outside, what might be the cause of it. Plus in the end it could be several things - lack of machines; blowing the budget on a big model; the fact that the yare investing in a huge release of Chaos in one go and are having to tick over until that is all ready.
Certainly with the head-start that Imperial models have any Chaos or Xenos themed force would have to have a fairly chunky launch for the game to establish itself. One of every "size" class (Warlord - Reaver - Scout - Warrior) might not be enough when the Imperium has several and more in those same slots.

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Rumors said that the latest Covid Situation and GWs high release rate caused a gigantic backlog which leaded them to big problems to solve.
   
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On the other hand, there's something to be said for a game when you can buy multiples of the core box and have a great game.
   
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Good point, but if plastic production was that strained then they could have easily skipped the amazing titan bundle. The starter set was already providing great value for players, and an ideal purchase alongside the Warmaster; a 2K battle force.

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Princept bundle was the best bundle they ever made, even better than the obviously great mk2 AT starter box.
   
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Welp, the tiny cute knights are coming sooner than I expected.


A few weeks ago, the Warmaster Iconoclast Heavy Battle Titan stomped its way onto battlefields worldwide, a frightening melee version of the biggest miniature you can buy for Adeptus Titanicus. Now for the other end of the size scale.

These adorable Armiger Knights and Mechanicum Knights Moirax don’t even come up to the shins of a Warlord Titan, but they’re sufficiently speedy and pack in enough firepower to cause serious trouble for other Knights.


https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/11/21/dragons-outcasts-petite-knights-and-a-cave-troll-in-this-massive-sunday-preview/
   
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JWBS wrote:
Princept bundle was the best bundle they ever made, even better than the obviously great mk2 AT starter box.


Indeed it was. The price was quite shocking, and I considered purchasing a box and donating the Warlord to my local gaming group. Sigh, I regret not doing that now...

I was only pointing out that if production on the Warmaster( especially with a second kit ) had stretched them that much, then it seems like something they could have easily have skipped to concentrate on more pressing releases.

Just so we're on the level here; I'm glad they didn't as it made a lot of players happy!

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I hope there will be the enough options to make 3 helverins or 3 warglaives in each set. Same with the moriax.
   
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 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
I hope there will be the enough options to make 3 helverins or 3 warglaives in each set. Same with the moriax.


Its going to be two warglaives and one helverin....oh crap.

Unless there is a special rule, a single pack won't be lance-legal; they have to have the same weapons...

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 Overread wrote:
Considering that its plastic I wonder if all the Specialist games are currently having a core issue in that its not investment or design work; but simply that GW is having trouble finding slots for their production alongside everything else. It could be they are sitting on a huge bunch of things for them which are just languishing because GW has bigger fish to sell and stock and are waiting for things to ease up a bit.

There's a dragging-heels feeling and its hard to pinpoint, form the outside, what might be the cause of it. Plus in the end it could be several things - lack of machines; blowing the budget on a big model; the fact that the yare investing in a huge release of Chaos in one go and are having to tick over until that is all ready.
Certainly with the head-start that Imperial models have any Chaos or Xenos themed force would have to have a fairly chunky launch for the game to establish itself. One of every "size" class (Warlord - Reaver - Scout - Warrior) might not be enough when the Imperium has several and more in those same slots.


GW are releasing things like madmen these days. Next week we're getting the AT Knights, the LOTR board game, the Outcasts gang for Necromunda, Dungeon Bowl, and the AoS Dragons.

In days gone by I think the Dragons would have been in a release slot all by themselves, maybe even a 2 or 3 week release.

Granted this week is one of the heavier releases, but still the rate GW are pumping stuff out these days is impressive.
   
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AllSeeingSkink wrote:


GW are releasing things like madmen these days. Next week we're getting the AT Knights, the LOTR board game, the Outcasts gang for Necromunda, Dungeon Bowl, and the AoS Dragons.

In days gone by I think the Dragons would have been in a release slot all by themselves, maybe even a 2 or 3 week release.

Granted this week is one of the heavier releases, but still the rate GW are pumping stuff out these days is impressive.


FW are releasing the knights.

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Much faster turnaround than expected. Won't pick any up myself right now but might in the future just to paint.

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The Knights are FW resin, LOTR board game aside from printed paper are packaging of decade old models.

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Chopstick wrote:
The Knights are FW resin
Are they? I thought they were plastic, my mistake.

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AllSeeingSkink wrote:

GW are releasing things like madmen these days. Next week we're getting the AT Knights, the LOTR board game, the Outcasts gang for Necromunda, Dungeon Bowl, and the AoS Dragons.

In days gone by I think the Dragons would have been in a release slot all by themselves, maybe even a 2 or 3 week release.

Granted this week is one of the heavier releases, but still the rate GW are pumping stuff out these days is impressive.


According to GW the dragons were meant to be released 2-3 months ago but got held up by global shipping issues. I believe we were also originally meant to get the Necromunda & Dungeon Bowl stuff earlier this month but they were affected by similar disruptions, so we saw a 2-week preorder for BT instead. For the last 5 years battleforces have been released on this weekend, so clearly there are still issues.

With the Armiger knights following so closely behind the Asterius, it feels like this is GW clearing out their backlog of releases postponed from earlier in the year.

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AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Are they? I thought they were plastic, my mistake.
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Sadly so, my friend.

It hurts. Not as much as jumping on a bicycle with the saddle missing...but it hurts.

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 xttz wrote:
AllSeeingSkink wrote:

GW are releasing things like madmen these days. Next week we're getting the AT Knights, the LOTR board game, the Outcasts gang for Necromunda, Dungeon Bowl, and the AoS Dragons.

In days gone by I think the Dragons would have been in a release slot all by themselves, maybe even a 2 or 3 week release.

Granted this week is one of the heavier releases, but still the rate GW are pumping stuff out these days is impressive.


According to GW the dragons were meant to be released 2-3 months ago but got held up by global shipping issues. I believe we were also originally meant to get the Necromunda & Dungeon Bowl stuff earlier this month but they were affected by similar disruptions, so we saw a 2-week preorder for BT instead. For the last 5 years battleforces have been released on this weekend, so clearly there are still issues.

With the Armiger knights following so closely behind the Asterius, it feels like this is GW clearing out their backlog of releases postponed from earlier in the year.



Although they were supposed to be released a couple of months ago, it doesn't really feel to me like GW in general have had a slow release schedule. There's still been something coming out most weekends.

It's more been that when something comes out they only have stock for a few days.

   
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Nice to see the Armiger and Moirax coming so soon. Nice little models.
   
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New baby knights available at £32 / €40 for a pack of 3.
I'll pass, I have already spent way too much lately.
   
 
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