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Fateweaver wrote:

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... Of course with GW's newer (and IMO for the better) tightening of their leaks...

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A minor thing really, but I think it is counter productive of GW to stop their leaks. By more public beta testing of their products they could spare themselves a lot of humiliation from stupidly worded rules, imbalances and outright faults in their rulesystem. I think publishing official beta rules could lessen anticipation for the final printed product, but some controlled "leaks" followed by reading of chosen internet forums could provide massive playtesting and theorycrafting from some of the finest wargaming minds, while at the same time increasing speculation and discussion around the product.

GW basically ignores those very people, Mellon. They've come out and said that they do not consider tournament players to be important.

"A fringe group that we do not cater to" was the way they put it...

they dont consider tourny players as 'a fringe group' though other wise they wouldn't have named people in their doubles tourny articles.

They have literally come out and said that. I don't remember the exact source, but I'm sure HBMC does.

Even when GW had external playtesters they didnt *listen* to them.. The mentally they have is astonishing for a game company yet its been that way since the dawn of time

The whole "do not cater to tournament players" is pure garbage because its an INSULT to the casual players

"Oh sorry casual players.. we know you spend the most money on our products but we're NOT going to proof read NOR give you consistent rules because we dont want to give the impression we are throwing tournament players a bone.. SEE YA"

There is a Nid codex definatly coming at the start of the year.

Tyranid Horde wrote:There is a Nid codex definatly coming at the start of the year.

While we're at it, the sky is definitely blue and there is definitely an abundance of water in the ocean.

Sky is not always blue. Today the sky above me is a codex gray color.

@ fateweaver

lols the sky above me was enchanted blue highlighted with ice blue with freehand clouds whoever painted was a damn good painter!

twistinthunder wrote:they dont consider tourny players as 'a fringe group' though other wise they wouldn't have named people in their doubles tourny articles.

Oddly, there seems to be a difference between "Tournament Players" and players who participate in tournaments...

Some new info from Warseer about the 'nids:

- Alessio Cavatore has 'acknowledged' the plastic Trygon.
- Apperantly all 6 models are new models, not redoes of existing kits.

Edit: ah, they meant no redone plastics. Which means the warrior and gaunt sets are staying are they are. But some metals are still up for plastification, such as the speculated gargoyles and raveners.

I'm gonna call bs on that one. No way GW can actually add options. I thought all they did was take away options, invalidate armies, and stuff like that.
Then again, it would let them sell more models, and add to the giant money pool.

Redemption wrote:Some new info from Warseer about the 'nids:

- Alessio Cavatore has 'acknowledged' the plastic Trygon.
- Apperantly all 6 models are new models, not redoes of existing kits.

Edit: ah, they meant no redone plastics. Which means the warrior and gaunt sets are staying are they are. But some metals are still up for plastification, such as the speculated gargoyles and raveners.

not necessarily they could be the same frames in seperate boxes for all we know.

6!!!?!?!??! I thought it was 4, not that I'm complaining but a little doubtful. Still i'd like to be proven wrong.

In other news, http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?catId=cat1020009&rootCatGameStyle=

Gaunts have been pulled from the website, and this single action (which is more of a lack of an action, honestly) has given us more news than the entirety of Gamesday Italy, which people wasted hundreds of dollars to attend.

Now, it's pretty much confirmed Gaunts and Hormagaunts will be split and reboxed.

Broken Loose wrote:In other news, http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?catId=cat1020009&rootCatGameStyle=

Gaunts have been pulled from the website, and this single action (which is more of a lack of an action, honestly) has given us more news than the entirety of Gamesday Italy, which people wasted hundreds of dollars to attend.

Now, it's pretty much confirmed Gaunts and Hormagaunts will be split and reboxed.

Wow, I'd have to agree to that. I just double checked myself.

Death Leapers, The Red Terror, and Old One Eye are all available. Gaunts and Hormagaunts are not.

Fun times await.

Very good catch on the gaunts, but...

Broken Loose wrote:...this single action (which is more of a lack of an action, honestly) has given us more news than the entirety of Gamesday Italy, which people wasted hundreds of dollars to attend.

If you went to goddamn Gamesday only for rumours and not for, say, gaming, you deserve to think your money was wasted.

You don't go so much FOR the rumours, but you probably expect a bit of information considering you're going to such an expensive and supposedly extravagant event.

True, but to call it a waste is an overstatement.

FlammingGaunt wrote:6!!!?!?!??! I thought it was 4, not that I'm complaining but a little doubtful. Still i'd like to be proven wrong.

4 new species (supposedly)

6 new boxes (so those 4 new species probably and like the hive tyrant and something else, hopefully raveners or some decent looking gargoyles).

Redemption wrote:Some new info from Warseer about the 'nids:

- Alessio Cavatore has 'acknowledged' the plastic Trygon.
- Apperantly all 6 models are new models, not redoes of existing kits.

Edit: ah, they meant no redone plastics. Which means the warrior and gaunt sets are staying are they are. But some metals are still up for plastification, such as the speculated gargoyles and raveners.

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe this isn't the edition of the Warrior. Oh well...

Here's hoping for plastic Gargoyles.

That means Gaunts and Raveners being redone. Like I said before, the raveners have gone from GW Online in Oz.

Gaunts?

No, they're plastic. No redone plastics they just said.

So redone metals, which gives us the options of:

Raveners (3 version in 3 Editions)
Gargoyles (2 Versions in 4 Editions)
Lictors (4 versions in 4 Editions)
Biovores (4 versions in 4 Editions)
Zoanthropes (4 versions in 4 Editions)
Tyrant Guard (3 versions in 3 editions)
Hive Tyrant (4 versions in 4 Editions)

My money's on the Gargoyles and Raveners. No to the rest.

Think new plastic Gargoyles are a given and evidence points to a Gaunt box split.

My worry is that if they continue the excellent scuplting standards of new plastics, some of the core Tyranid range is going to look badly outdated, especially the static Gaunts.

@H.B.M.C. I was only following the people saying the Gaunt box was being split.

I almost want the gaunts to be resculpted actually. Take the same general details but scale them down to a proper size and make them look sharper around the edges. The new Skaven stuff is fantastic, so I'm sure they could get it right without making the gaunts bigger than Space Marines.

Apart from the fiddly feet that break on hormas the gaunt sprues dont lack dinamic and I would much live with them for several more years.

I concur.... there is nothing inherently wrong w/ Gaunts sprues. To redo them you'd also may need to redo their special weapons sprue. I'd much rather see other stuff go plastic long before Gaunts are given a face lift. The Guants can hold up for a number of years longer IMO.

I'd be happy to see
Gargoyles, Ravenors in plastic. I'd also like the Tyrant in plastic but I think that is wishful thinking.

Well, at least give them bio-morphs that can be glued on without taking ages. And this may just be me, but my Hormies keep falling foward in that hilarious comedy style.