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30 components per kit, and they come with 25mm round bases.

Mendi Warrior wrote:
New baby knights available at £32 / €40 for a pack of 3.
I'll pass, I have already spent way too much lately.

Given the fixed weapon options I was expecting £25. I'd only expect £32 to be the price if the kit came with both weapon options for all three models.

Having to buy three of each kit to get a lance-legal banner of helverins or veuglaires is really poor value.

What amazing value and without doubt worth every penny. For only £96 - with postage and packaging - you too can have a minimum lance of nine Armigers on the field of battle, striking fear into the heart of the other player who was foolish enough to purchase a Warmaster titan.

With the specialist team going from strength to strength, we're now looking forward to the next expansion book called Adeptus Knighticus: Attack on Titans. I really don't know how they will top the amazing rules in Doom of Molech, but somehow they will come through for us.

Let us put our hands together and give thanks to both GW and FW for going the extra mile for Household players this year.

From Dakka, with love.

Yikes.

Caved and bought a set each. Hardly bought anything and have had a recent windful from some Oldhammer selloffs. I'll post pictures of the datacards when I have them.

I can't believe they'd require you to buy three packs to run these in a lance. Surely they must have a rule about them being squires and can mix and match. But, this is FW...

AUD$74 for 3 itty-bitty mini-mechs.

GW really do think the world of themselves...

beast_gts wrote:
30 components per kit, and they come with 25mm round bases.

So, 10 per Knight. What do we reckon:

- 2 legs
- 1 Body
- 1 Carapace Weapon
- 2 Shoulder Pads
- 2 Arms
- 2 arm weapons

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
AUD$74 for 3 itty-bitty mini-mechs.

GW really do think the world of themselves...

As this thread proves, people will still pony up for it.

Sadly there's no reason for FW (or GW) to NOT put prices up there.

 zedmeister wrote:

beast_gts wrote:
30 components per kit, and they come with 25mm round bases.

So, 10 per Knight. What do we reckon:

- 2 legs
- 1 Body
- 1 Carapace Weapon
- 2 Shoulder Pads
- 2 Arms
- 2 arm weapons

Looking at it, I think
2 legs
Waist
Body
2 arms
2 arm weapons
Carapace gun
Head

Its a good thing they decided to go with plastic for the main sets and the standard Knights. The models were originally going to be all resin. Imagine how much a Warlord or Reaver would have been at these if the resin knights are this much!!

robbienw wrote:
Its a good thing they decided to go with plastic for the main sets and the standard Knights. The models were originally going to be all resin. Imagine how much a Warlord or Reaver would have been at these if the resin knights are this much!!

Yeah, but wasn't the idea back then to only have 2 or 3 a side, with a full maniple of 5 the absolute maximum

GW have some balls charging that, especially with zero options. I honestly fear these things being that many parts given FW's QA problems. I'd worry about ending up with like 2 left feet or a broken autocannon.

These seem like a better value to use as armigers, a much much much better value. Fewer parts too and metal. And you get weapon options.

@SamusDrake, you could get something like 22 of these for the price of 3 armigers from forge world.. oof

https://vanguardminiatures.co.uk/shop/cybershadow-hk-1l-hunter-killer-combat-automaton/

Yeah, I'll pass.

Those are great looking models, especially for the asking price. Could easily pass as Ad-Mech support units using the Armiger rules.

SamusDrake wrote:
Those are great looking models, especially for the asking price. Could easily pass as Ad-Mech support units using the Armiger rules.

U can even kit bash the legs from them with another kit to make little armiger sized version of these

That definitely needs to be done!

DUDES WE HAVE AD-MECH STRIDERS FOR TITANICUS!!!

SamusDrake wrote:
That definitely needs to be done!

DUDES WE HAVE AD-MECH STRIDERS FOR TITANICUS!!!

The call of photoshop was strong, these really would make cool armigers

Absolutely fabulous!

Yeah but real GW model of the strider would have the little servitor man being probed

SamusDrake wrote:
Absolutely fabulous!

For some reason it reminds me of the old timey bikes with the big wheel.


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Chopstick wrote:
Yeah but real GW model of the strider would have the little servitor man being probed

Lol true






Also worth mentioning, battlebling brought back the groin cannon for a limited time only

https://www.etsy.com/ca/listing/978204406/p3n15-groin-cannon-warlord-titan-adeptus?ref=shop_home_feat_4

Absolutely ridiculous pricing for these armigers. And the fact that they don't give you two of each is fething idiotic. For $25 more you could get 2 full size armigers. Epic fail Forgeworld.

Ugh. Not feeling it for armigers, especially being resin.

Trying to think of some Battletech mechs that might work in place ... locusts? Jenners?

Crablezworth wrote:GW have some balls charging that, especially with zero options. I honestly fear these things being that many parts given FW's QA problems. I'd worry about ending up with like 2 left feet or a broken autocannon.

These seem like a better value to use as armigers, a much much much better value. Fewer parts too and metal. And you get weapon options.

@SamusDrake, you could get something like 22 of these for the price of 3 armigers from forge world.. oof

Vanguard's are great, and the pricing on FW's is absolutely insane, bordering on lunacy.

Plus, being resin instead of metal they are inherently flimsier and more delicate, so... yeah, easy win there for Vanguard.

Stormonu wrote:Ugh. Not feeling it for armigers, especially being resin.

Trying to think of some Battletech mechs that might work in place ... locusts? Jenners?

Not really, no. Btech lights would be too big for this.

 Arbitrator wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
AUD$74 for 3 itty-bitty mini-mechs.

GW really do think the world of themselves...

As this thread proves, people will still pony up for it.

Sadly there's no reason for FW (or GW) to NOT put prices up there.

*Some* people will, others might have but now won't.

I might pay 50 bux for plastic armiger.

Also the Warglaive upper arms are too short, and they use the cogwheel trim shoulder pauldron, not the flat one like Helverin. and there're massive gap between the pauldron and the torso. Some lazy no detail part here and there : exhaust pipe, arm connector,etc...

Knight moirax actually have the cogwheel trim Pauldron but with cogwheel emblem instead of arrow like the one used by the Wargliave, also there're no massive gap. So overall looks like a lazy and botched casting of the Warglaive/Helverin by FW.

Should have packed them with the part to make one or the other, or at least in sets of three of the same. This is a pretty lame approach.

Well, you can always 3D print them? I think mine worked out at 35p for 3...



Having said that though. I'm still going to buy the FW ones because I like them. and because, well, I must have one of everything.

 Lord Borak wrote:
Well, you can always 3D print them? I think mine worked out at 35p for 3...



Having said that though. I'm still going to buy the FW ones because I like them. and because, well, I must have one of everything.

Oh, I already did. But others can't/wont.

Man, Kirby was right.

 Nurglitch wrote:
Man, Kirby was right.

Well apparently 12 of them fit on a plate for a bout 90 cents of resin so...

But really, no one wants something that small in 10 parts, especially with forge world doing the quality assurance. And it doesn't help that not a single consumer knows how many they actually need to buy to play them legally, add to that the cynical weapon distribution. Here in canada it's 90$ for two 28mm scale armigers, how in god's name 3 8mm one's could cost 62$ is beyond a vast majority of the potential market's head. Like even the 2018 AT group on facebook, which is usually very enforced positivy/the emperor has no clothes has several posts where everyone is agreeing or at least 8/10 that they just totally priced them out of the market. 9 armigers from forge world is nearly the msrp of a warmaster titan.

I think kirby is was only partially right, if gw upped the QA, stopped doing cynical weapon destruction and go back to including optional bits and priced on the side of sane, the market would gladly support that. A reality I think a lot of designers and manufacturers also may have to come to grips with is, some players just want the miniature, don't plan much posing or conversion and if the model is going to be fairly mono-pose anyway better it be fewer components than 10 pieces for something so small, it sadly is so much simpler to find someone with a 3d printer. It also hurts that they're making them so many pieces/components but still not throwing in arm/weapon options. Even the plastic questoris kit was a bit cynical in its weapon distribution but that became less of an issue with the supplementary sprue with ccw weapons/melta and missile launchers.

3d printing is still a pain in a lot of ways, the simpler an stl is the easier it is for anyone to print. I'm just as lazy as fw's QA, I don't really want to have to review every piece back from a printer to ensure its the right one and not warped/chipped/broken, so honestly the files with the fewest pieces/components sometimes seem more appealing for that reason. These little knights just so happen to be something that have actually been around in file form for some time AND just so happen to range from a few component files to like literal 1 piece prints. As I mentioned, someone in a group said it was 91 cents of resin for 12 of them on a single plate... that's 248$ in forge world land... somethings gotta give. The prob as always for gw is a lot of files are free and exist long before they decide to print legacy model x in a smaller scale. GW and FW aren't exactly helping to make kirby wrong, the iconoclast decision as an FU to third party part makers show they're choosing to just be bitter about it for now.


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 Lord Borak wrote:
Well, you can always 3D print them? I think mine worked out at 35p for 3...



Having said that though. I'm still going to buy the FW ones because I like them. and because, well, I must have one of everything.

The FW ones will likely look better than a lot of the prints out there of varying quality. AT least in forgeworld's case the moirax hasn't been widely seen in 8mm so I can see those selling more than the armigers.