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Philadelphia

http://www.sarna.net/news/update-on-the-harmony-gold-lawsuit/amp/

Forget it, found the final agreement, HG still holds the copyrights outside Japan

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Well, that debate is its own massive ball of wax. Harmony Gold may not own anything related to the property in all actuality after the court decision in Japan in the early 2000s
   
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Mississippi

Yeah, there seems to be murmurs that HG shot itself in the foot in a reset spat with Tatsunoko (one of the supposed copyright holders of the Macross license). It appears that Tatsunoko did not have the rights it thought to license most of the mecha and characters from Macross, and that HG's license is up for renewal in 2021. With the two having gone at it legally, hope is Tatsunoko won't renew the license then - or at the least, HG won't be able to access the Macross portion of Robotech - and by extension, PB.

Which, in short, means that come 2021, this KS is a dead duck.

Also, to your previous question, both Rick (a former poster) and I have sent letters to the Michigan AG, around 2015. However, a recent poster has been insinuating we sent it to the wrong court/person.

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It never ends well 
   
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 jul wrote:
http://www.sarna.net/news/update-on-the-harmony-gold-lawsuit/amp/

Forget it, found the final agreement, HG still holds the copyrights outside Japan


Right up until 2020, yes.
   
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Shelby Twp. Michigan

Oh by the way is anyone here planning to go Palladium Books Open House 2018 ? I know its a joke but what the heck.
   
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Philadelphia

DEZOAT wrote:
Oh by the way is anyone here planning to go Palladium Books Open House 2018 ? I know its a joke but what the heck.


We should organize a trip there, 3-4 full coaches loaded with RTT backers...
Anyway...

I talked to a law enforcement agent. According to him, the local police won’t do anything beside transferring the info to the FTC or the FBI.
The FBI won’t act until there are serious evidence of fraud. PB being a private company, it’s a bit more tricky to get public records. Unless there are clear proofs that PB used the Kickstarter money to pay for unrelated products/bills/freelancers/fanboy cleaning the toilets- ah no, not those, those have to pay to do that......etc, the FBI won’t move.
The FTC is likely to open an investigation if enough complains are made to them.

I’m still trying to find a way to file a Mail fraud claim, as the local law enforcement will act on those.

For foreign backers, i’m looking at specific countries starting with Canada. Pretty sure there’s a way to file complain against a US company.

Concerning the lack of updates, Scott lives in Texas, he’s far enough from Westland that he most likely do not give a gak. I found traces of him back to 2010. Most likely a fan-friend KS brought in. I hope Scott realized on his way what a gak show the Kickstarter was and déicides to do the honey badger.... Anyway, we probably never going to see an update from him any time soon.

In the meantime, i’ll go paint....



   
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You don't want to go there and mess with Kevin.
I mean, look at these shots of the man in action:

Dude asked for a refund:
https://www.facebook.com/PalladiumBooks/photos/a.1118420058172254.1073741828.175809969099939/1118423811505212/?type=3&theater

His secret identity:
https://www.facebook.com/PalladiumBooks/photos/a.176895742324695.50103.175809969099939/795159280498335/?type=3&theater

This guy said that the Palladium system needed to be tweaked:
https://www.facebook.com/PalladiumBooks/photos/a.1118420058172254.1073741828.175809969099939/1118423791505214/?type=3&theater

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Notice all those RTT Wave 1 boxes in the background
   
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wilycoyote wrote:
Notice all those RTT Wave 1 boxes in the background


The pics are likely years old and don't represent the current state of the warehouse. They'd be much dustier now.

   
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Canada

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
I'm absolutely sure that proof exists at PB, but we'll never see it without a court ordered subpoena. Even then, I'd expect PB to declare bankruptcy and destroy the evidence, rather than comply.
I felt a happy moment there.
This needs to happen....

A revolution is an idea which has found its bayonets.
Napoleon Bonaparte 
   
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 warboss wrote:
wilycoyote wrote:
Notice all those RTT Wave 1 boxes in the background


The pics are likely years old and don't represent the current state of the warehouse. They'd be much dustier now.


Imagine how it could look now if paladium have a sale or return policy
   
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Mississippi

 Sasquatch wrote:
 warboss wrote:
wilycoyote wrote:
Notice all those RTT Wave 1 boxes in the background


The pics are likely years old and don't represent the current state of the warehouse. They'd be much dustier now.


Imagine how it could look now if paladium have a sale or return policy


It would look exactly the same, but the dust would be moved from reshelving

It never ends well 
   
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Philadelphia

So the black curtain in the background is to hide the RTT wave 2 kits..... or just more dusty RTT starter set....

My FTC claim has been accepted and is now in the system. Now I can call them and tell them to regroup all FTC claims about the Kickstarter all together....
   
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[Scooby Doo Ending]

It was Old Man Seimbeida dressed as a spider the whole time!
   
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DC Metro

Good luck with that. I submitted one waaay back.

First response back I got was that the complaint was being reviewed with a link to a guide on how to avoid fraud.

Got a second response a few days later with the same link as their final resolution.

 jul wrote:
So the black curtain in the background is to hide the RTT wave 2 kits..... or just more dusty RTT starter set....

My FTC claim has been accepted and is now in the system. Now I can call them and tell them to regroup all FTC claims about the Kickstarter all together....
   
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Philadelphia

Maybe Fox News or whatever local morning shows would be more effective....
   
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Mississippi

cannonfodr wrote:
Good luck with that. I submitted one waaay back.

First response back I got was that the complaint was being reviewed with a link to a guide on how to avoid fraud.

Got a second response a few days later with the same link as their final resolution.

 jul wrote:
So the black curtain in the background is to hide the RTT wave 2 kits..... or just more dusty RTT starter set....

My FTC claim has been accepted and is now in the system. Now I can call them and tell them to regroup all FTC claims about the Kickstarter all together....


I got that same fraud response when I submitted as well :\

It never ends well 
   
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And it's over:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rrpgt/robotech-rpg-tacticstm/posts/2120399

Kevin writes:

So it is with sadness and tremendous heartbreak that I announce that, despite our best efforts, we are unable to produce the Robotech® RPG Tactics Wave Two rewards. Moreover, after proudly carrying the legacy of Robotech® in the role-playing games medium for 30 years, our license has expired and is not being renewed.

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Norfolk, NE

I want the $500 (MINIMUM) dollars back of my $1000 pledge for undelivered Wave 2 Items.

That doesn't count the items that were missed as stretch goals that will never be made.


I don't want Wave 1 gak that is valueless at this point.



Something is happening on the 24th, we sent you a poster.
 
   
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What a useless bastard. The only silver lining there is them not renewing the Robotech license in the RPG format, etc. I'm out a good $220+ (I had two pledges). Yep, feth Kevin Siembeda.

 
   
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Norfolk, NE

HOLY fething CHRIST ON A CRACKER!

They even had the BALLS to post the exchange rate for Wave 2 to Wave one items and they are asking FULL RETAIL for the Wave 1 items...

My head might explode.... holy.... gak...



Something is happening on the 24th, we sent you a poster.
 
   
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So Kevin spent all the money on Wave 1, hoping to fund Wave 2, just like we guessed years ago. Only he's been insisting all along that the money was there to do Wave 2.

Lots of throwing Ninja Division under the bus. From everything I've heard, Palladium didn't go with the manufacturer ND suggested, and that's what caused the sculpt problems, as well as (presumably) all the problems with number of parts because the mold manufacturer was garbage.

Edit: Kevin has admitted their license for Robotech is over.

Palladium’s license for RRT and the Robotech® RPG book series has ended. That means we will be liquidating ALL Robotech® products, starting with RRT backers who want to receive Wave One items for their Wave Two rewards.

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That update took a long time to write since Kevin had to find a big enough bus to throw ND under. That's not easy, you know...
   
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Philadelphia

I’m calling Fox News tomorrow.....
If i don’t get my cash tomorrow, at least i’ll Have a good laugh....
   
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Norfolk, NE

I mean... I had a nice simmering burn going for the last few years knowing full well I would get the shaft at some point....

But O M F G those 2 "updates" have triggered some psychotic level rage in me like damn near nothing else in my life.....

Looks like I picked a hell of a week to stop sniffing glue!!



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Mississippi




Oh, this burns me up. They've known for 3(?) years this was never going to happen.

I'm still owed about $160 from this KS, but I really don't want to pay for shipping their crappy miniatures to me.

I do hope this is the final nail in their coffin. May they rot in hell. Hope HG is next.

It never ends well 
   
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Philadelphia

It’s going to be rage fest on the KS page.....
He got the balls to trade his stuff for more money that what is going to sell it. He also has only one month to liquidate the Robotech products. After that he can’t sell it anymore.

Maybe the lawyering up happening recently got him scared since he knows he doesn’t have the funds for anything...
I mean he’s discounting pdf’s....
   
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Feth those guys.

   
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Future predictions time: Kevin will have to sell his IPs over this debacle, No great loss, he was barely doing anything with them anyways.

   
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Norfolk, NE

From a request in 2014 for a refund;


"As such, we cannot offer you a refund at this time. If the time should ever come that Palladium Books cannot fulfill the terms of our Kickstarter project, we will of course offer refunds, as we would be required to do by Kickstarter."


I think I ground my teeth into paste.



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