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Hi Guys

Whats the cheesiest list you ever came up against in a GT. My worst defeate was against this cheesy list:

HQ
Chaos Lord, Daemonic Stature, Daemonic Speed, Mark of Slaanesh, Six Minor Psychic powers, Dark Blade, Daemonic Aura, Personal Icon.

Elites

None

Troops

15 Daemonettes

15 Daemonettes

15 Daemonettes

15 Daemonettes

15 Daemonettes

10 Daemonettes

And yours ???

That's not a cheesy list. It's a gimmick list.

And not even a very good one, at that. No daemonettes on steeds...

If that's not cheese.....what a cheesy Space Marines of Chaos Army list !

You can't just say it's not....you must say why and give an example mates

It's a Siren Prince Daemonbomb. With a poorly designed Lord, badly-organized squads, and a complete inability to do anything but die horribly when faced with a Grey Knight, Sisters of Battle, or Black Templars army, and slightly-less than 50% chance of being wiped out immediately by any Space Marine army with a psyker.

And I can say whatever I want. See my sig below...

Haha beat this list with Sisters or Black Templars !!! You said many things brother and yet you didn't came up with a cheesy list yourself !!!!

9 obliterators
4 possessed tanks
las/plas squads

Win!

Cheesiest List I ever faced was:

Armored Seige Company

HQ
1 Exterminator Leman Russ
Elite
1 Exterminator Leman Russ w/ Tank Ace
2 Chimera with heavy bolter, multilaser and heavy stubber or something liek that, 3 guns that made me sad
3 Chimera armed as above
Troops
1 Basilisk
2 Basiliks
3 Basilisk
4 Badilisk
5 Basiliks
6 baslisk
Heavy
1 Leman RUss
2 Leman Russ
Fast
1 Hell Hound with heavy bolter, heavy stubber and flame cannon
2 Hell Hound as above

Well thats what I remmeber it was 1850, this is a nasty list.


That was Feb 06, in May of 06 I went to another large tourny and I was yet again blessed to play against armored company... it wasn't nearly as bad, and I was tooled up for it. I scored a major victory, instead of a minor loss.

Sisters would easily beat the list as they are immune to minor psychic powes, so Siren doesn't work, so their Exorcist (multi-shot Meltaguns, with a LAscannon range) would kill the Lord in 1 turn. Then the Daemonettes cannot summon, game over.

I am guessing its the same with the correct Templar vow.

Iron Warriors are almost universally seen as the "cheesiest" army (but in reality, if its in the codex - hey, you can do it!), but Word Bearers can give them a run for their money (bike-based Daemon Bomb).

In effect, there is no one "best cheesey" army, as any "cheesey" army will beat another "cheesey" army - ie, Daeomnbomb Word Bearers could beat Iron Warriors as they can carefully manouver and summon, but Speeder-Heavy Space Marines would beat Word Bearers as Rending picks off the bikes, etc.

Yep, that's not the "Cheesie" list, that's the "all eggs in one basket" list.

For one, if you happen not to get Siren (it is possible, even with 1000 minor powers, there's still a chance to fail to get siren, although pretty slim). Pretty much any army can shoot that one model of the board if they really put their mind to it. If it's te only thing you need to kill to win, I'd just throw everything I got at it.
Also, don't forget that there are multiple armies that simply ignores minor psychic powers. Even Daemonhunters would be able to shoot your lone prince of the field in one turn.

Second, any fast army would be able to out-manouver you, since there's only one icon on the field. Even though the prince is pretty quick, he pretty much "is" the army, and hence is easy to stay away from.

One possible tactic would be to "box in" the daemonprince with a few tactical squads or equivalent in a corner, forcing him to stay still and summon Daemons (who possibly will scatter into the squads) and even if all six squads enter and doesn't scatter, that's a LOT of T3 models with a weak 5++ save in a very dence formation. Lets just hope you'r enemy didn't bring flamers (or bolters, or hell even lasguns!)

Sure I can see it win sometimes, but it's seriously weak if you happen to not get siren or end upp playing someone who can negate it. And even if you get imunity with siren, that army can be out manuvered pretty easy, since it's just one model to counter. he moves 6+d6 and charges 12", so while he may have a threat range of 24", first turn he may just stumble 7" across the board, where he ain't a threat to no one...  And if he manages to get a charge off, he can be killed. Or if he's stuck in combat, can the daemons materialize at all?

Or just imagine such a simple thing as two devilfishes with 12 FW's each load out around you'r prince. Where are those daemons gonna drop? move in a hammerhead or tetra to block even more terrain of and you're daemonettes are almost guaranteed to scatter on an enemy unit.

EDIT:
And as for the cheesiest list I've ever faced? Some eldar smuck with 6 Wraithlords/w starcannons + the regular dangerous stuff (Seer Counsil) against my poor grey knights. He said he Allied with Harlequins and could do that, I never bothered to check 'cause I've never played agains him again, and never will. This was a long time ago though, the Harlequins list was never truly "official" and now the list is history with the new eldar codex.

daemon bomb list... which you will proabably lose because of your statured prince getting 3 las cannon shots! 5+ saves i hope your good at

Why should I bother? Sisters of Battle ignore minor psychic powers. Grey Knights ignore minor psychic powers. Black Templars ignore minor psychic powers. Any force with a LD10 psychic hood has a good chance of nullifying minor psychic powers each turn. Eldar had CTMs that don't care about Siren. Tyranids with the Choir or with the anti-psyker condition make problems for Siren.

And the Lord is just weak. No combat drugs, no extra close combat weaponry...

You obviously got hosed by this one-trick pony list, which means that your tactics must have been pretty idiotic. A siren prince used to be really powerful, but that was before LD10 psychic hoods and armies that ignore minor psychic powers became common. If you lost to it, that's your own fault for having a poorly-built army list, weak tactics, and poor execution of your battle plan.

Don't whine about your own inadequaces. Next time...play better.

That is hardly a cheesy list.

You can have a cheesy siren-prince demon bomb, but the one you are facing was not one of them.

All you have to do is move as far away from the DP as possible and the demonettes will start to come in on turn 2, then you just shoot the crap out of them.

I don't mind the Cheesy Siren Prince Demon Bomb Army... because it usually flounders against my cheese of the Demon-Hunter Imperial Guard Armoured Battlegroup... Mystics + Tanks = Dead Demons.

Trust me, I am on the Cheese Crusade...

Iron warriors with 9 Oblits. 4 vehicles with possesion, Daemon prince of doom, and las plas squads get my vote.

Posted By Centurian99 on 10/29/2006 1:00 PM
Don't whine about your own inadequaces. Next time...play better.

Quoted for truthery.

I would love to be your opponent at a rogue trader tourney with my sisters. Free points for me, without much effort.

Its a one trick pony that will easily be conquerd by any competent all comers sisters list.

Next cheesy list please.

I will go with nightlords with infultrate and jump packs for the win.

Have you ever looked at the cost of infiltrating raptors? That's a pretty damned expensive unit!

It's all rock/paper/scissors anyway.

well...cheesiest army ive ever seen in a rogue trader was mine :/

1 winged hive tyrant with Close combat goodness
1 walking tyrant with shooty goodness
2 elite devourer fexes
2 ripper swarms 3x bases each
1 shooty VC BS carnifex
1 trygon
1 barbed hierodule

won every game...due to my pathetically low sportmanship and composition scores didnt even finish in top half of the tournament....hahahaha...also managed to get forgeworld models banned from our local rogue traders due to the abundance of complaining of 2 gargnatuan crittrers in 1850 points

I don't know about cheesiest, but Rending Madness marine armies and Godzilla 'nids generally make me queasy and want to go play more Fantasy ... but then there I run into SafH skaven and Gunline of Death empire or dwarfs and I just shrug and think about how nice =][= would be if I had some one to game with ;D

But yeah, marines loaded with assault cannons gets my vote for most disgusting, though even then I'd probably give it a go.  Of course, I've never fought a 3 'Lith Necron army, and hopefully neve will ...

- Boss Salvage

Anything that I have ever contemplated..... ever

Posted By Angron on 11/06/2006 10:55 AM
Anything that I have ever contemplated..... ever

I'm guessing your not a fantasy player.

Nope, just got into the game of fantasy, so unfortunatly I have to make due with the models I have right now....

Well cheesiest I can think of at the moment is a Marine army with 16x Assault Cannons at 2000 points.

Gimpmaster, your list is illegal.

You must field at least one unit of Raveners in order to take a Trygon

Well I think the original list is very cheesy. Might not be competitive, but cheesy means I don't like it. I don't like it because it's a one trick pony.

Around here in Australia, there are heaps lists that could be described as cheesy. We generally don't see cheesy lists in our tournaments so something like 11 assault cannons in 1500 or 3 hammerheads is regarded as cheesy, even if these armies wouldn't necessarily do so well at the UKGT (ie even if there are cheesier armies, these armies are still considered cheesy).

It probably isnt up there with the mass assault cannon or godzilla nids with tons of genestealers, but Iyanden is a pain for me. Have to plan things just right so you dont loose much to those Wraithcannons.

I think that the cheesiest list I've ever played against was was a craftworld Saim-Hann army with 9 Vypers - mix of starcannons/bright lances,each occupying a troop/fast attack slot. 3 fire dragons in 3 tricked out falcons, plus a farseer on a jetbike.  This list was ridiculous, because it was so fast and had so many skimmers that the whole army could jump one part of my force and not suffer much retaliation at all, simply because I could only target one vyper at a time, then I got lit up by a ridiculous amount of starcannons.  Plus my opponent was a total turd-face, dancing around and gloating during the game.  I did reasonably well against the army, but still got very badly burned.  I'm glad that the new codex forces Saim-Hann players to take jetbikes as troops. 

Um, I don't really get why the AC list is cheezy? That is what AC is, tanks and only tanks.

No all scout army with all od them having sniper rifles and ML or HB with a chaplain with two lascannons and two whirl winds and a dread

stopped my army cold first turn, all those pinning and then being entangled

i lost the game first turn no if and or butts even if i went first i lost