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It might be something like this

http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=612

meh thats not near as funny as when our D&D group talked about  what it would be like to replace the fellowship and other cast and critters with D&D equiped characters. thebaddies would be alot worse but the feloowship would be kick ass, now if you just throug a D&D outfited party at say level 10 into LOTRs they would own just about everything save a balrog or gandalf(since he doesn't stay dead). imagine a LVL 10 mage at helms deep.......chain lightning, control weather, fireballs galore....the urakhi would piss themselves >

Hehehe.

I liked the Star Wars MMORPG better, but I think it got pulled.

Hey,


>>www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale


D&D rulebook, US$3


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A sack of 200 dice, US$27.


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"Being invisible isn't as useful as you'd think when fighting
a blind creature under water with your bare hands."


Priceless.




Playa

Nice. I'd say that's accurate. I scrolled down the main page and found this jewel:

"And finally, a lot of stuff in D&D just doesn’t translate at all. D&D is a social game where real human beings have real conversations. On the computer, the game is focused more on combat, and if you’re talking to someone then you’re usually navigating a dialog tree. There are social skill and feats that just don’t work very well in this context, and some that are all but useless. (Gather information and sense motive are particularly tricky to convey in a game. I’m sure there are others that can’t be used at all on the computer.) Even if the designers went to the trouble to allow you to use social skills in a conversation, it isn’t nearly as satisfying to do so, and not as obvious that you are actually using those skill points when you do. "

Hehe, D&D geeks talking about social interaction. You can see how into it they are with naming some sort of D&D social ability. Hilarious!  I think I've found my new fad phrase until I get tired of it: "D&D is a social game where real (emphasis on real) human being have real conversations."

Funny indeed...thanks for directing my attention to this very site.

Greets
Schepp himself

Posted By stonefox on 11/07/2006 5:42 AM
Nice. I'd say that's accurate. I scrolled down the main page and found this jewel:

"And finally, a lot of stuff in D&D just doesn’t translate at all. D&D is a social game where real human beings have real conversations. On the computer, the game is focused more on combat, and if you’re talking to someone then you’re usually navigating a dialog tree. There are social skill and feats that just don’t work very well in this context, and some that are all but useless. (Gather information and sense motive are particularly tricky to convey in a game. I’m sure there are others that can’t be used at all on the computer.) Even if the designers went to the trouble to allow you to use social skills in a conversation, it isn’t nearly as satisfying to do so, and not as obvious that you are actually using those skill points when you do. "

Hehe, D&D geeks talking about social interaction. You can see how into it they are with naming some sort of D&D social ability. Hilarious!  I think I've found my new fad phrase until I get tired of it: "D&D is a social game where real (emphasis on real) human being have real conversations."

you obviously have never played before. the pencil and paper D&D is very much a social game. all the games i have been in do not meet the steryotypical "geek" D&D that most people think of. there are men and women of various ages in groups as small as 4 and as large as 10 with lots of joking, harassment, drinking, eating and other socialising along with the actual role-play game going on.  visualising and reacting to the universe your RPing is alot more difficult for many  people than most think.

I've played in 2-3 campaigns. Quit early in all of them, mostly because it's a pain and I hated both the "fight all the time!" aspect and roleplaying aspect.  Roleplaying is especially awkward since I can't help but laugh when a bunch of guys, who are bad actors, try to be in character.  Same with 40k.  I play the game but I'm not too into the background and I utterly despise the people who are too into the game and start saying stuff like "The Emperor Protects!" and other weird things.  But that's just me.

D&D's "social" the way playing 40k at the mall is "social." You're stuck with the same 5, or maybe dozen in a gaming group, guys. Maybe a (gawky-looking) girl. For hours at a time. It usually stinks since someone doesn't have good hygiene. There's some awkward humor and slowed social acts/words that are just plain - for lack of a better word - geeky. The stereotypical version of the geeky group may not always avail, but it's not as romantic as you make it seem either. Hell, it's closer to the stereotypical version. You make it seem like it's something like a frat or college party. I don't like college parties myself but I'm damn sure it's more social than a D&D group.

Ooh, stonie, you touched a nerve.

Touch it again!

I particularly like the part about "groups as small as 4 and as large as 10", and how social interaction was defined as "joking, harassment, eating, and drinking".  Intelligent conversation anyone? Or should we get straight to the drinking and harassment?

Mughi, keep in mind that many (most?) of us have played RPGs in the past & moved on, but still remember it with fondness.  I started playing D & D in 1977 with two friends and the orignal 3-pamphlet set, and wasted many a pad of graph paper.  In fact, I watched Weird Al's "White & Nerdy" the other day and my wife was laughing at me until she realized exactly how many points of congruity there were...

My problem with gaming as a social activity...ok I have problems with
social activities in general. I told my coworker that I went out to game
last night and she just said "So THAT's how we get you out of the
house."

Meh. I should show her the OT Zone. Burn out her pupils.

Malfred came out yesterday. Heh.

Don't you mean "that night in Bangcock"?

My favorite part:
"You may be a group of unsightly men sitting around a card table on a Friday night, but your players will still be looking for chances to meet girls."

Social activity, indeed.

Posted By malfred on 11/07/2006 8:08 PM
Don't you mean "that night in Bangcock"?

Lets not talk about that torrid epoch of our past, it makes Hellfury so very jealous, what with you and Jester cavorting and taking tourists on "rides" in Thai longboats along the many Bangkok canals.


As to "social interaction", isn't that what all this is about? Sure, a big part of the hobby is solo building & painting toy solders and playsets (re: game tables) for them, but just as big is actually playing the game. It's nothing but an excuse for social interaction with (somewhat) like-minded individuals. Just an exceptionally geeky excuse that often involves socially inept people, but it *is* social interaction. You just wait until our DakkaRabbi gets here and gives you naysayers a good talking to!

Nyar - I know what you mean. However, with common usage "social interaction" these days leans towards a definition of "things you do that allow you to meet new people or a large number of your friends". It's the way I tend to use it myself. The social scale, for me, my friends, and most of the college people I bother to hang out with tend to agree that the ladder of social activity goes from:
1. Being by yourself in a basement
2. Above but playing an online game
3. Hanging out with friends (D&D usually hovers around this area)
4. Social event
5. Preppy kids, party whores, all that stuff

There's a difference between hanging out with friends and that sort of social interactivity and social events, of course, but from my experience you don't call "hanging out with friends" a social activity. Guess it's all the semantics, as it is social since you're obviously interacting with someone else, but it's not "social." Haha.

I'm mostly just being a realist and saying that D&D is nowhere as great as that guy said it is. It's a geeky event, that's it. It's not mainstream, it's not "cool". It may be a good time, but you're not "going out" by any stretch of the imagination. It may be hanging out with friends, but poker night is hanging out with friends too and I wouldn't call that a social event either. Also the part about imagination and all....hehe, that's the part that gets geeky. I'd prefer to work out and continue my martial arts rather than roleplay a fictional lvl 15 warrior questing on some mystical journey.

It's funny to see how people love to rationalize their geeky activities just to get others to accept them. Same goes for the sports geeks and party whores as well. The latter two can also be as dull, void, and uninteresting, but I've never seen any of my partygoing acquiantances or friends try and tell me how their activity is the pinnacle of social interaction.

What goes on in my basement is the pinnacle of social interaction.

With cardboard cutouts of all of you. Well, it's the pinnacle of something at least...

All right, no need to beat around the bush. Where should I send my hair and nail clippings?

Posted By stonefox on 11/08/2006 10:42 AM

What goes on in my basement is the pinnacle of social interaction.

With cardboard cutouts of all of you. Well, it's the pinnacle of something at least...

All right, no need to beat around the bush. Where should I send my hair and nail clippings?

You misunderstand me. Beating around the bush is exactly what I had in mind.

I think it involves a pit, and some lotion.

What if LotR was a Palladium Rifts campaign?

They would have really big guns.

And it would be awesome.

I don't know which was funnier- the accuracy of the frames or the nerdy comments by many of the posters....

So preppy kids and party whores at a frat party is the height of social interaction?

Make no mistake folks, you play war with toy soldiers and spend an inordinate amount of money doing so. You are just as big of geeks as the D&D guys are. Do you brag to all your frat buddies about the latest figure you painted, conversion you created or game you won? Of course not. Remaining in the closet doesn't make you any less of a geek.

Well, sorta back OT. Dragon Magazine had an article back in its early days entitled, "Gandalf was a 2nd Level Wizard."

Posted By Headhunter on 12/01/2006 5:58 PM
So preppy kids and party whores at a frat party is the height of social interaction?

No, clearly preppy kids and party whores playing D&D is the height of social interaction. At a frat party.

"I'm a 4th level Jock, what are you?"

"Prestige class: 5th level tri-delt."







You know there's porn of it out there, somewhere.

Hey bro, want to come over and play Gamecube? We could chill and listen to some music, oh, is that the new Jack Johnson CD? I love Jack Johnson!

I'll bring a six pack of Nat Light too, bro!

Posted By nyarlathotep667 on 12/03/2006 10:47 PM
I'll bring a six pack of Nat Light too, bro!

You can afford Natty?  You're high rollin, bra!