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 Captain Joystick wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
And what squad would that be?

They can't accompany dominions or seraphim. So basically all they can do is help retributors fire their heavy bolters more often, or make a battle sister squad run a little bit further or fire their boltguns twice. And that's if they're lucky and succeed.

Yes, they don't get to hang off the coat-tails of the very top units in the army, at best they can roll up in a rhino a turn or two later with a handful of apology cards, it's true.

But between effect vs points I still think she's better than the other choices in the elite slot, and you can do a lot worse than buff infantry in an army that has good infantry, in an edition that is much kinder to infantry.

That's not saying a whole lot. The bar is really low.


I think Repentia should be AP-4, damage D3, A4, and have Desperate for Redemption. Or have 3 attacks and have Desperate for Redemption be an auto-trigger. They can stay 17 points, since they're not a horde unit, but they should be worth those 17 points.

Celestians, I think, could be corrected by making them able to take all Power Weapons. I'd also give them and Seraphim, as the elite of the order, the ability to trigger their own Act of Faith.

5 more more victories to report, using Chaos Space Marines:
3 victories vs Custodes
2 victories vs Tau Empire

Another Konor game CSM (World eaters, index) vs Iron Hands (codex) world eaters win. Really good close game like a couple I've had in 8th. Loving it so far!

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:
I think the Act of Faith rule should be like Canticles, in that it only triggers if the entire detachment is Adepta Sororitas/Adeptus Ministorium.

i agree with this.

5 more games in:

CSM (IW) vs Space Wolves: CSM win
CSM (IW) vs Space Marines (IF): CSM win
CSM (IW) vs Tyranids: CSM win
CSM (IW) vs Necrons: Necron win
CSM (IW) vs Tyranids: Tyranid win

Dark Angels vs Thousand Sons - Dark Angels Win

3 more games to report:
Everything used the relevant Codex.

Salamanders vs Chaos Marines (Nurgle Flavored): Salamanders Win
Primaris Ultramarines vs Chaos Marines (Khorne Flavored)
Chaos Marines Win
Ultramarines vs Grey Knights
Grey Knights Win

I was the Grey Knights player and it started poorly. My opponent seized and popped a Razorback for first blood. My first turn consisted of a ton of fire and psychic energy being expended to kill about 3 dudes on bikes. (Highlight: A Stormraven fires 2 lascannons, 2 Krak missles, 2 Stormstrike missles, and 24 bolter shots into 3 Grav Centurians. They take 1 wound.) His turn 2 he kills the Stormraven and 9 Strike Marines and I'm about ready to call it, as I've lost about 700 points to his 90, but I quit whining and figure I'll play it out. My turn two, the Warp opens up and starts sucking Ultramarines into the void and I charge into melee with Voldus, 8 Paladin's, and a Dreadknight Grand Master.

That's when things turned around.

This was only my second game of 8th with the Grey Knights, and a lot of their stuff seems grossly overpriced, but let me say, Voldus, Paladin's, and DKGM's are not on that list. Turn 5 I tabled him, and after wading through an entire army there was still 1 Paladin, Voldus on 3 wounds, and the Dreadknight on full health. They Godzilla'd their way through 4 veteran bikers, a land raider, 3 Rhinos, 3 Assault Centurians, a biker Captain,a Chaplain, a techmarine on bike, an Apothecary on bike, and about 14 tactical Marines. It was awesome.

Tyranids vs. Mechanicus. Tyranids Win.

Dark Angels vs Space wolves - Win

Dark Angels vs Tau - Win

Dark Angels vs Raven Guard - Lose

Dark Angels vs Chaos - Win

Dark Angels vs Deathguard - Win

Alpha Legion vs Guard - Win



Point interval is absolutely crucial, in 500 points Chaos will crush pretty much anything (Tide of Traitors ), so will Sororitas, 1000-1500 Marines become great

I'm really suprised how many people are up to 12+ game winning streaks with no losses... O_O

 ChargerIIC wrote:
I'm really suprised how many people are up to 12+ game winning streaks with no losses... O_O

People omitting their losses might be understandable () but I hope they aren't. That'd really screw up the ratios for the lesser played armies.

 Captain Joystick wrote:

 ChargerIIC wrote:
I'm really suprised how many people are up to 12+ game winning streaks with no losses... O_O

People omitting their losses might be understandable () but I hope they aren't. That'd really screw up the ratios for the lesser played armies.

I don't play as often as I like but I always put up my results, regardless of whether it's a win or lose. Only one's I think I wouldn't put up are draws since OP didn't put in a category for them (maybe I should just for completion sakes).

So yeah I am responsible for bringing down the Orks, sorry boyz.

ChargerIIC wrote:I'm really suprised how many people are up to 12+ game winning streaks with no losses... O_O

I'm not anymore. I reported my first loss a little while ago. I did have a very long win-streak though.

As I said, though it's pretty easy to get a lot of wins. The local league is really bad.

 Captain Joystick wrote:

People omitting their losses might be understandable () but I hope they aren't. That'd really screw up the ratios for the lesser played armies.

I'd imagine player skill fluctuates wildly from area to area and wins/losses are somewhat colored by that. I was almost undefeated with 6th ed IG (which weren't exactly considered top tier) back when I played at the game store I went to years ago. In the games I played with my friends at my apartment who are VERY good at the game, the win percentage was much lower.

The polls will be skewed in smaller factions by competitive players interacting mostly with casual players.

The armies don't matter if you're a min-maxer playing against someone whose guiding light is "that looks neat. I'll bring it! I wonder what it costs."

Another game today, with me played Chaos for the first time this edition.
World Eaters CSM vs. Ultramarines: Ultramarines victory

 captain bloody fists wrote:

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:
I think the Act of Faith rule should be like Canticles, in that it only triggers if the entire detachment is Adepta Sororitas/Adeptus Ministorium.

i agree with this.

newp. That would be stupid.


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Chaos Space Marines report. I lost to Black Templars. Konor campaign loss. I played super poorly. =(




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 Marmatag wrote:
The polls will be skewed in smaller factions by competitive players interacting mostly with casual players.

The armies don't matter if you're a min-maxer playing against someone whose guiding light is "that looks neat. I'll bring it! I wonder what it costs."

Nonetheless...keep the reports rolling. Its fun to see.

(Me) with Astra Militarum superheavy tanks vs:

Raven Guard (win)
Renegades and Heretics (win)


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Ah, those are wins for me I mean

Another subpar tournament performance courtesy of me.

Astra Militarum v Ynnari - Ynnari win
Ugh kill points, at least it was power level kp. Not that it mattered because he almost tabled me with his ridiculous death avatar and ravager spam. The fact that he could stop a lot of my stuff from shooting whenever things died by charging me on my turn was another unpleasant surprise.

Astra Militarum v Imperium Soup (Admech/Knight/Space Wolves) - Admech/Wolves win

Nightfight.
As in the whole game I was taking massive penalties to hit as his Cerastus just walked on up unopposed and wrecked me. Turned out later the guy was doing rerolls after modifiers but 6 Kastelans with phosphor were deleting 20 conscripts a turn, not sure how many extra kills he got from misunderstanding how rerolls work. The wolves deep struck in the hole the Kastelans made and started wrecking my backline. Also not sure what the TO's were thinking making an entire game nightfight. They really should have posted a mission packet.

Astra Militarum v Thousand Sons (Index) - Astra Militarum win

Friggin finally. Unfortunately, he was a newer player to 8th, so it wasnt a very satisfying win. Basically shot rubrics while ignoring Magnus as best as I could. Then used advance + move move move to snatch objectives on the last turn. Barely squeaked out the win.

It really felt like 60 conscripts is just not enough at a competitive level. I had 115 infantry altogether, but every game the conscripts got wiped pretty much to the man and my infantry squads got shredded too.

 Jancoran wrote:

 captain bloody fists wrote:

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:
I think the Act of Faith rule should be like Canticles, in that it only triggers if the entire detachment is Adepta Sororitas/Adeptus Ministorium.

i agree with this.

newp. That would be stupid.

How is that stupid?

 captain bloody fists wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:

 captain bloody fists wrote:

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:
I think the Act of Faith rule should be like Canticles, in that it only triggers if the entire detachment is Adepta Sororitas/Adeptus Ministorium.

i agree with this.

newp. That would be stupid.

How is that stupid?

PM me if you're really interested in that discussion. =)

So Konor campaign game #4.

Emperor's Children v. Genestealer Cult

Genestealer cult won mostly via the endless waves rules and me making some major mistakes.

Round robin on the home tables today.

Sisters vs Genestealer Cult - SoB win
Tzeentch Daemons vs World Eaters (codex) - World Eaters win
Dark Eldar vs Astra Militarum - Astra Militarum win

IG vs Khorne/Thousand Sons - IG Loss

There goes my win streak!

Codex Chaos Space Marines (Black Legion) vs. Dark Angels (all Ravenwing) Chaos win, Defilers are really fun.

Thousand Sons vs. Emperor's Children(CSM Codex) - EC victory

My Night Lords claimed victory today over the forced of the Astra Militarum.

Necrons won vs Blood Angels

Imperial guard (me) vs primaris marines - win for guard
imperial guard (me) vs death guard - win for guard
imperial guard (me) vs sisters of battle - loss for guard
imperial guard (me) vs sisters of battle - loss for guard
imperial guard (me) vs imperial guard - loss for guard (me)

I keep trying to make armored company work. It doesn't. Tanks get a max 1 turn of firing before competent armies lock them in combat and make them 100% useless.

ThePorcupine wrote:
Imperial guard (me) vs primaris marines - win for guard
imperial guard (me) vs death guard - win for guard
imperial guard (me) vs sisters of battle - loss for guard
imperial guard (me) vs sisters of battle - loss for guard
imperial guard (me) vs imperial guard - loss for guard (me)

I keep trying to make armored company work. It doesn't. Tanks get a max 1 turn of firing before competent armies lock them in combat and make them 100% useless.

If you like tanks I have been having success with a superheavy company. they're not quite so concerned with being locked up.