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 MajorWesJanson wrote:
AT could really benefit from adding the Rapier scout and shifting more things to plastic- say a new weapons sprue for the warlord and reaver, combined with a chaos armor plate sprue for each. Belicosa and 2 miossing guns in plastic for a warbringer sprue. Upgrade sprue with some of the new Warhound weapons.

Epic would be disappointing, since it would mean the Titans are simplified down and pushed to the side rules wise.

Ideal result would be Epic and AT sharing models but remaining different games. Epic handles the big battles while Titanicus stays as a "skirmish" game focused on the Titans.

Yes I think that's probably the most likely outcome. They are not going to suddenly make all of the AT rule and resource books redundant.

Well, given AT's age and where they currently stand in the rules cycle, a new edition would not be the strangest suggestion I've heard.

Combine that with a new Titan class...

While I'd love to see Epic again, I think it's a long shot.

 schoon wrote:
Well, given AT's age and where they currently stand in the rules cycle, a new edition would not be the strangest suggestion I've heard.

Combine that with a new Titan class...

While I'd love to see Epic again, I think it's a long shot.

It might not even be a new class, it could also be the long-awaited chaosified Warlord - with enough separate chaos parts that's practically a new kit, even if some of the support structure remains the same.

I'm seeing both AT and AI being replaced with Epic, while they've already served the purpose of supporting last year's launch of The Horus Heresy.

It could be that Epic will have books for different conflicts across history, maybe starting with the Horus Heresy( Imperium, Titans, Knights, Marines ), then the Armageddon invasions( Chaos and Orks ) and others - introducing factions as they go. They don't have to do it all in one go and can save other factions for future editions should the game set the world alight.

Tsagualsa wrote:

 schoon wrote:
Well, given AT's age and where they currently stand in the rules cycle, a new edition would not be the strangest suggestion I've heard.

Combine that with a new Titan class...

While I'd love to see Epic again, I think it's a long shot.

It might not even be a new class, it could also be the long-awaited chaosified Warlord - with enough separate chaos parts that's practically a new kit, even if some of the support structure remains the same.

That might be a possibility, as far fetched as it might sound. I mean, Grimdark Terrain got contacted by GW to remove the Chaosified Warlord armour plating from their site...

Far as I know those aren't removed but being reworked. GW is likely well aware of GD and keeps an eye on the style of things they release. Even if GW isn't going to release Chaos Titans ever, they will still protect certain design elements of them from being infringed upon.


Sometimes it can be a particular shape of armour or a crest/icon on them that needs changing

 Overread wrote:
Far as I know those aren't removed but being reworked. GW is likely well aware of GD and keeps an eye on the style of things they release. Even if GW isn't going to release Chaos Titans ever, they will still protect certain design elements of them from being infringed upon.


Sometimes it can be a particular shape of armour or a crest/icon on them that needs changing

Maybe so, but it's rather specific, considering the amount of stuff from Battlebling they've tolerated. I might be looking a bit too much into it though.

 Malika2 wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Far as I know those aren't removed but being reworked. GW is likely well aware of GD and keeps an eye on the style of things they release. Even if GW isn't going to release Chaos Titans ever, they will still protect certain design elements of them from being infringed upon.


Sometimes it can be a particular shape of armour or a crest/icon on them that needs changing

Maybe so, but it's rather specific, considering the amount of stuff from Battlebling they've tolerated. I might be looking a bit too much into it though.

Wasn't battlebling the only one with a commercial license to sell prints of those very same chaos warlord armour files?

 Crablezworth wrote:

 Malika2 wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Far as I know those aren't removed but being reworked. GW is likely well aware of GD and keeps an eye on the style of things they release. Even if GW isn't going to release Chaos Titans ever, they will still protect certain design elements of them from being infringed upon.


Sometimes it can be a particular shape of armour or a crest/icon on them that needs changing

Maybe so, but it's rather specific, considering the amount of stuff from Battlebling they've tolerated. I might be looking a bit too much into it though.

Wasn't battlebling the only one with a commercial license to sell prints of those very same chaos warlord armour files?

Apparently Grimdark Terrain started doing it as well before they got contacted by GW. No clue if GW contacted Battlebling.

 Malika2 wrote:

 Crablezworth wrote:

 Malika2 wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Far as I know those aren't removed but being reworked. GW is likely well aware of GD and keeps an eye on the style of things they release. Even if GW isn't going to release Chaos Titans ever, they will still protect certain design elements of them from being infringed upon.


Sometimes it can be a particular shape of armour or a crest/icon on them that needs changing

Maybe so, but it's rather specific, considering the amount of stuff from Battlebling they've tolerated. I might be looking a bit too much into it though.

Wasn't battlebling the only one with a commercial license to sell prints of those very same chaos warlord armour files?

Apparently Grimdark Terrain started doing it as well before they got contacted by GW. No clue if GW contacted Battlebling.

Grimdark was just selling the stl's in his online store, battlebling was selling or going to sell prints I believe. Either way it's cute for GW to pretend to care now, the traitor books has been out forever.

New stuff here
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/03/13/speedrun-engine-kills-with-massive-adeptus-titanicus-conversion-beam-weapons/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=adeptus-titanicus&utm_content=titanicusreveal13032023

That’s silly.

And I love it.

JWBS wrote:
New stuff here
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/03/13/speedrun-engine-kills-with-massive-adeptus-titanicus-conversion-beam-weapons/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=adeptus-titanicus&utm_content=titanicusreveal13032023

Spoiler:

The Warlord gun looks ace, for once an actually creative design, as far as vaguely gun-shaped death rays go. The other variants are your bog-standard C-beams, but then, any amount of support for AT is appreciated.

Looks nice, but eventually they ought to make some of these warlord arm weapons in warbringer carapace form as well, spread the love a bit.

Neat, hopefully better rules than ... volkites, was it?

For once, the C-beam rules incentivise something different, ie. staying at a distance. That's good, currently almost all weapons sans missiles have done better at close ranges. I like that.

Whoever is writing it misspelled reaver and wrote "reiver". I really wish they'd just show us the damn weapons cards than having to read copy by someone who doesn't play. Nice to have new weapons but sadly it's forge world resin so 3d printing it is. Those weapons are simply too expensive for the QA and time sink. Nice to see something new I guess.

Hell yes! About time we got some new goodies and rules

Not seeing the point when it comes to Warhounds, as they run a very high risk of blowing themselves up with such weapons.

A proper melee weapon would make more sense, given their speed and animal design.

 Crablezworth wrote:
Whoever is writing it misspelled reaver and wrote "reiver". I really wish they'd just show us the damn weapons cards than having to read copy by someone who doesn't play. Nice to have new weapons but sadly it's forge world resin so 3d printing it is.

I appreciate this might be tricky for you to understand, but they want people to buy the weapons and get the information that way - not put the card out, and then have people not support the game by not buying the product.

I do hope the lead time between WHC preview of the weapons and release of the weapons isn't as long as it was last time - I don't think that did them any favours.


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SamusDrake wrote:
Not seeing the point when it comes to Warhounds, as they run a very high risk of blowing themselves up with such weapons.

Depends on how much of a risk it actually ends up being, I guess - being able to use a high-move platform to get shots on larger targets while staying in range brackets that makes return fire less effective seems like it is worth a try, at the very least.

SamusDrake wrote:
A proper melee weapon would make more sense, given their speed and animal design.

Given how comparatively squishy the platform is, I don't think I'd want to use melee options on Warhounds, but to each their own. What would you envisage as a melee option for them?

Circular saw / claw would look pretty nice.

It's been a little while since AT got some love.

These look fun. Hopefully they'll also be balanced!

Very nice!

SamusDrake wrote:
Not seeing the point when it comes to Warhounds, as they run a very high risk of blowing themselves up with such weapons.

A proper melee weapon would make more sense, given their speed and animal design.

Two points:

1) If the WH version can throw down some S11 or maybe even higher (the article makes it sound like only the WL version can be pushed though)...oh yeah, that's potentially something I'm going to try at some point or another. And note that I'm a very risk-averse Audax player.

2) A melee weapon would be useful capability, but it's probably not going to happen for the WH. I remain hopeful that it could an option on the Rapier, however.

Awesome stuff. I shall obviously be doing the responsible thing and buying 2 of each.

As for a combat weapon on a warhound, wasn't there a mention somewhere of a Rapier class titan? Which was Warhound sized but more combat based.

 Lord Borak wrote:
Awesome stuff. I shall obviously be doing the responsible thing and buying 2 of each.

As for a combat weapon on a warhound, wasn't there a mention somewhere of a Rapier class titan? Which was Warhound sized but more combat based.

Smaller than a Warhound as far as we know. Likely sitting in the scale 5 slot if we ever get the model and rules. I don't think any content thus far has suggested the loadout, although people have speculated that the chassis may be the uncorrupted version of the old Slaaneshi Chaos engines. And at least one of those had melee weapons. But who really knows.

 Dysartes wrote:
I appreciate this might be tricky for you to understand, but they want people to buy the weapons and get the information that way - not put the card out, and then have people not support the game by not buying the product.

I do hope the lead time between WHC preview of the weapons and release of the weapons isn't as long as it was last time - I don't think that did them any favours.

They might want to do it that way, instead of putting the rules in the books they also sell. Doesn't mean we have to allow them to entertain that notion, though. And people will 3d print stuff if they so choose, regardless of how GW puts out the rules.

They decide how to release stuff. Then they get to live with the customers' response.

 Dysartes wrote:

Depends on how much of a risk it actually ends up being, I guess - being able to use a high-move platform to get shots on larger targets while staying in range brackets that makes return fire less effective seems like it is worth a try, at the very least.

Ork player, by any chance?


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 Dysartes wrote:

Given how comparatively squishy the platform is, I don't think I'd want to use melee options on Warhounds, but to each their own. What would you envisage as a melee option for them?

Damn, you're giving me mixed messages here; happy to blow up your hound but, too squishy for the glory of personal combat?

But seriously, at least one weapon that offers the melee trait to target individual parts. A nasty chain-fisty weapon will do nicely...


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 gorgon wrote:
Very nice!

Two points:

1) If the WH version can throw down some S11 or maybe even higher (the article makes it sound like only the WL version can be pushed though)...oh yeah, that's potentially something I'm going to try at some point or another. And note that I'm a very risk-averse Audax player.

2) A melee weapon would be useful capability, but it's probably not going to happen for the WH. I remain hopeful that it could an option on the Rapier, however.

You're just outright reckless!

Yeah, but I don't think the Rapier is coming now, and it's just these FW "core-titan" weapons only going forward. Best to just stick with Cerastus Lancers instead and not worry.

 gorgon wrote:


Smaller than a Warhound as far as we know. Likely sitting in the scale 5 slot if we ever get the model and rules. I don't think any content thus far has suggested the loadout, although people have speculated that the chassis may be the uncorrupted version of the old Slaaneshi Chaos engines. And at least one of those had melee weapons. But who really knows.

Time will tell I guess. Spangly new weapons are always good but having a new class of titan would be awesome, especially on the lighter scale (5-7).

The old Epic Subjugators? I was thinking the same thing but in the old fluff they were just Slaanesh titans I think. I can't remember if there was any mention of them being around before the heresy. However that's ancient cannon so it can always be updated. There's always a way!!

SamusDrake wrote:
Yeah, but I don't think the Rapier is coming now, and it's just these FW "core-titan" weapons only going forward. Best to just stick with Cerastus Lancers instead and not worry.

It may be just wishful thinking, but I'm not convinced of that yet. Some people point to the Dire Wolf as a sign they're 'done' making plastic kits. But it's a very niche Titan that was probably conceived and designed to be a resin kit. Other SGs like Blood Bowl and NM have had some weird pauses. We'll see what happens.