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Kilkrazy wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II

Damn this internet and it's lack of blatantly obvious sarcasm!

Although the key point I was getting at is contained in that link: "However, as a result of other events, many belligerents entered the war before or after this date, during a period which spanned from 1937 to 1941"

To quote Obi-Wan "Luke, you're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view."

Kilkrazy wrote:

reds8n wrote: I want a referendum on it.

Me too. To vote against it and make them come back with something the man in the street can understand.

Argh. That's pretty much the sort of thing I had a little pissy fit against earlier, why should everyone be able to understand a huge and comlex piece of international law making? I'm afraid the man on the street buys the Sun, likes Robbie Williams and wants to bring back hanging.

Reds8n, you get a vote then! I shouldn't have generalised so, in my experience everyone calling for a referendum hasn't actually read the thing.

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Is even cuter when they claim they won it!

Well, they won the Eastern Front at the cost of millions and millions of lives, so I'll cut them some slack. They also know it wasn't that simple. Bonus internets for knowing what Russia calls the war, without looking it up. Hint: It ain't WWII.

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Russians got there first I'm afraid, and pretty much stomped all over the Nazi Warmachine in doing so.

This part is just crap. Russia was first to sign a non-aggression pact with Germany and sit back and wait for them to break it, but that is about it.

Great Patriotic War.

I have visited the mass graves outside Leningrad. They are big and there are lots of them.

Agreed there. When us Western Allies were struggling ashore in June '44, the Russians were (later that month) headed back to Eastern Poland with operation Bagration, wiping 50 German divisions from their order of battle.

US obliterated the Japanese. We won WWII. We even helped the Rooskies and Brits finish up their side with the other opponent...

Actually we should really credit the Italians, Hungarians etc. guarding the flanks of Sixth Army. Without them, the victory of the Allies couldn't have been possible...

jfrazell wrote:US obliterated the Japanese. We won WWII. We even helped the Rooskies and Brits finish up their side with the other opponent...

Actually we should really credit the Italians, Hungarians etc. guarding the flanks of Sixth Army. Without them, the victory of the Allies couldn't have been possible...

Aye, thanks for the tanks matey!

We finished paying for them nearly two years ago.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/article1264220.ece

So did people stateside realy make good pocket money and earn great prizes from selling "Grit" magazine like the ads in the comics said ?

And is it true that the secret to life the universe and everything was printed in one issue but no-one read it ?

Grit magazine? That sounds like something the wife would be displeased with.

Richie Rich is a pornographer ?!

See attached.

Don't shatter all my childhood dreams of America ! I so wanted to read GRit magazine, buy a BB gun, get those boots that OJ advertised-even thoiugh I had no idea who OJ was- and breed sea monkeys .

Here' summat I'm interested in from those across the pond; how much do you guys know about the north of England? It seems to me that all american impressions of Britain are either cockney or home-counties poshos. Just something I've wondered about for a while.

Edit: I've thought of another one; are there no entrapment laws in the US? It seems like 'To Catch a Predator' laughs in the face of the very notion of such measures on police actions.

Greebynog wrote:Here' summat I'm interested in from those across the pond; how much do you guys know about the north of England? It seems to me that all american impressions of Britain are either cockney or home-counties poshos. Just something I've wondered about for a while.

That's the place invaded by Mel Gibson in 1995!

That's the thing with having so many states with so many different laws: some states do have entrapment, while others do not. It comes of leaving most things as state rights... even if a lot of states get it wrong.

Just wondering what you guys everywhere else in the world actually think about Oz. I don't hear much about it.

I think of it as a more violent Canada. Which certainly has its appeal...

And we do have our own kind of bear.
Edit: Ignore the lies on that page. Seek the truth!

Australia, its like East Texas with a different accent and bigger gators.

You wish Texas was that mental.

Australia is poisonous. Have you seen the creatures that live there?

Honestly, if I took a Shark, and dumped it in the outback, it would evolve in a split second to fly, be highly toxic, and shoot beavers from it's teeth!

One thing I have wondered about oz, is how much the average aussie thinks about, and comes into contact with, the deadly creatures of their nation. When even a duck billed platypus is poisonous does it get to the point where nobody pays attention anymore, or is it on your mind everytime you walk into long grass or unkept natural areas?

Meh. The majority of Oz' population lives in the cities (because they're safer), but the geezers up in Darwin are always surrounded by crocodiles. You go camping, mosquitoes will eat you alive on warm nights.
Most of our dangerous animals live far from civilisation, and they aren't too common either. Mind you, tiger snakes and copperheads are the reason you DON'T go into the bush in summer.
I feel safe in Tas though. We don't have as many poisonous things. We're like a downgraded Ireland.

You have copperheads? Oh man, its a home away from home. Next thing you'll tell me is some Lost Tribe from Mexico has settled there and brought with them something called "Tex Mex."

reds8n wrote: So did people stateside realy make good pocket money and earn great prizes from selling "Grit" magazine like the ads in the comics said ?

And is it true that the secret to life the universe and everything was printed in one issue but no-one read it ?

LOL.

Grant Morrison was almost right. I read Grit. And I'm not telling. I also owned a Red Ryder BB gun and Sea Monkeys. All three were glorious...the Holy Trinity, really.

Frazzled wrote:You have copperheads? Oh man, its a home away from home. Next thing you'll tell me is some Lost Tribe from Mexico has settled there and brought with them something called "Tex Mex."

Shoot, we have copperheads in PA. Nothing special there, cowboy.

Yes, but do your copperheads know how to make a good margarita? Didn't think so...

gorgon wrote:

reds8n wrote: So did people stateside realy make good pocket money and earn great prizes from selling "Grit" magazine like the ads in the comics said ?

And is it true that the secret to life the universe and everything was printed in one issue but no-one read it ?

LOL.

Grant Morrison was almost right. I read Grit. And I'm not telling. I also owned a Red Ryder BB gun and Sea Monkeys. All three were glorious...the Holy Trinity, really.

Anyone who gets a Doom Patrol reference is alright in my book !

Next you'll be telling me you bought one of those muscle books and kicked sand back in that guys face !

And those hostess fruit pies were as good they looked right ?

Is it also true that no one really understands all the rules of Baseball ?

And could I get some explanation of the "Draft system" (? I think ..? ) that determines the way football teams get new players. Seems very... unamerican from what I think I know.

Frazzled wrote:Yes, but do your copperheads know how to make a good margarita? Didn't think so...

More Cointreau or Grand Marnier (depending on taste) than actual Tequila (and that has to be gold), about a 2 to 0.75 mix. Personally, I prefer Grand Marnier, or both.

The only trouble I have here is getting a good lime mixer. You can buy margarita mix but it comes with triple sec, and I don't think a proper Margarita has that. A nice lemon and lime high juice tends to do the trick. After a couple or 3 I tend not to notice anyway.

I always found Aussies to be very patriotic. like, more patriotic than the average american. But alright other than that.
Man, if you got the downgraded version of ireland it must be pretty grim.
We only have like one poisonous animal though. It's a tiny freshwater fish.

Awesome, awesome thread. I'm just sad I'm so late to the party.

reds8n wrote:Or do you think that your own homegrown sports ( stolen as they might be.. mutter grumble) will always be more popular ?

Probably, I honestly can't begin to understand why Soccer is so popular everywhere except the US. I know I couldn't stand playing it in gym while I was in high school. Football/Basketball/Baseball are imminently more entertaining to me, but then again that's what I grew up with.

As far as my view of the Aussies...well I'm actually working for them indirectly now. I'm hoping to get a few trips over there in the next few years to really see what it's like. The guys I've met from there in our meetings here in the US were nice competent people, but that's like most of our customers.

Overall they seem like nice people, but it's hard to make any judgments since all I can ever get are the blatantly outrageous stereotypes portrayed by Crocodile Dundee, Outback Steakhouse, and the Fosters beer commercials. Also I'm going to assume that the *real* beer drunk by normal folks in Australia is a whole lot better than Fosters, so I'll agree not to judge you folks by that if you agree not to judge us Americans by Bud/Coors/Miller.

With regard to Football not taking off in the States, I think it's because it can be terribly elitist, and forging a group of competent players into an all conquering team is pretty hard work. Look at the English National side. Utterly ruined, despite the skills it's component parts hold by being comprised of nothing but spoilt little brats who all want the limelight. This prevents them utterly from punching their weight.

Whereas American Football is arguably more tactical, you *have* to play as a Team to get anywhere.

That and your far too delicate to play Rugby.