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Relapse wrote:

JD21290 wrote:


Funny really, since the benefits given to them by this country also paid for the clothes they wear.

To be 100% honest about the march: Let them, with a ticket back to the middle east waiting for them afterwards.
They seem to hate this country, yet still take all the free hand-outs and ask for more.

Failing that, shoot the fethers.
If i walked around with a sign with something aimed at a muslim on it, i would lose my job, and be branded a racist.
Yet for them its fine?
feth off to another country, they arent needed or wanted here.

I remember years ago reading about a protest against the Lybian embassy in Britain during the course of which the Lybians shot and killed a police woman and injured several other people. I think there are some people in Britain with as long a memory as I have and just might get more than a bit violent against these protesters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yvonne_Fletcher

26 years is a long time to still care about some woman getting shot. Presumably there have been thousands of offenses in all sorts of categories since which are still relevant. But you can't read this.

So they want to march through the town with empty coffins? Sounds like my kind of BYO party.

I have no problem with this. However, like with any public speaker or parade, I reserve the right to heckle and throw rotten veg if I dislike what I hear.

When their abusive protest started there was a furious reaction from members of the public. Although the chants were aimed at the regiment, it is the members of the public supporting them that the prosecution say were caused alarm and distress.

Mr Chaudhuri said police twice had to form a barrier around the protesters to protect them. At one point it is alleged pieces of bacon were thrown at the Muslims while there were shouts of 'go and have a shave' and 'Bin Laden's wife is a whore'.

Now that's what I call democracy!

Its great that they can have protests like this in our country and be relatively safe, now what happens when you protest in a muslim country, oh wait this was just on the news ..... oh yer, the police shoot you.

BluntmanDC wrote:Its great that they can have protests like this in our country and be relatively safe, now what happens when you protest in a muslim country, oh wait this was just on the news ..... oh yer, the police shoot you.

From what I read and posted about the protest at the Lybian Embassy several years back, you don't even have to buy a plane ticket, they'll just shoot you in St James Square.

I disagree with throwing bacon.

Won't somebody think of the sandwiches?

George Spiggott wrote:I disagree with throwing bacon.

Won't somebody think of the sandwiches?

Evidently bacon makes everything better, even protests.

I wish someone would throw bacon at ME.

Maybe I should start protesting more.

I've seen what the British consider to be bacon, if that stuff's not thawed out properly you could cause a concussion.

Or you could throw what Americans consider bacon and they'd be greased up enough for a whole month of winters.

Albatross wrote:I wish someone would throw bacon at ME.

Maybe I should start protesting more.

If you're prepared to catch it like a seal I think we could make good money as a vaudeville act.

I'm prepared to throw that foul cardboard vegetarian bacon at anyone. I'm opposed to wasting good (real) meat products.

Albatross wrote:I wish someone would throw bacon at ME.

Maybe I should start protesting more.

your wish is granted



*Toss*

The OP asks where you draw the line...

This is a trick question. There is no line. Well, there is, but it is an imaginary line. I have seen it once... Shares a border with Narnia.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:"If this man has any decency about him he will not hold a march through Wootton Bassett."

If he had any decency, if he felt so strongly about living in a muslim nation, he'd have moved to live in one... oh, wait, they are all sandy gak-holes where he's already well past the average lifespan ruled over by foam mouthed zealots with more concern about ensuring a teenage girl is buried up to her neck and stoned alive for 'witchcraft' rather than sorting out clean water or educating the children.

You might want to stop and think about that comment, because it's pretty damn ignorant. You're mistaking Saudi Arabia for the entirety of Islam.

sebster wrote:You might want to stop and think about that comment, because it's pretty damn ignorant. You're mistaking Saudi Arabia for the entirety of Islam.

Whoa Whoa Whoa! What?!?!

JEB_Stuart wrote:

sebster wrote:You might want to stop and think about that comment, because it's pretty damn ignorant. You're mistaking Saudi Arabia for the entirety of Islam.

Whoa Whoa Whoa! What?!?!

Yeah, one a country and ones a religion! They aren't even both places!

I can't help but be a tad put off when an ethnic group imposes itself on another society, refuses to make any attempt at fitting into the culture they've just walked into, badmouth the country's original inhabitants and demand handouts and protection.

It's Britain; there has been a sense of a British national identity for centuries now. If that's not an established culture, I don't know what is. If you go there of your own volition and don't like that culture, you are welcome to leave. It's just idiotic not to expect actual Brits to defend their way of life.

It's also idiotic to expect a culture to stay the same forever.

sebster wrote:

MeanGreenStompa wrote:"If this man has any decency about him he will not hold a march through Wootton Bassett."

If he had any decency, if he felt so strongly about living in a muslim nation, he'd have moved to live in one... oh, wait, they are all sandy gak-holes where he's already well past the average lifespan ruled over by foam mouthed zealots with more concern about ensuring a teenage girl is buried up to her neck and stoned alive for 'witchcraft' rather than sorting out clean water or educating the children.

You might want to stop and think about that comment, because it's pretty damn ignorant. You're mistaking Saudi Arabia for the entirety of Islam.

Ignorant?

You mean I forgot about The Yemen?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Yemen

Oh, perhaps I didn't consider Iran...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_the_Islamic_Republic_of_Iran

Perhaps the charming holiday resort of Libya?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Libya

I might have overlooked Syria, it's a bit of a hidden gem...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria#Human_Rights

Noooo, you mean our current vacation spot of choice, Afghanistan, yes?
Or Iraq, although it's off-season there, or perhaps Kuwait?

No, you mean the highly enlightened and stable nation of Jordon... Hey, what's a few honour killings of your own daughters eh? That's just local FETHING culture right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordon#Human_rights

In fact, which part of the Muslim World are you so keen to go and spend time in? Because I'm really keen to hear about how ignorant my comment is, because I'd love to be more liberal on the subject, because the majority of my politics IS liberal but when it comes to Islamic nations and culture, it seems so absolutely fething aggressive and destructive and hell-bent on doing harm to anything that doesn't conform to it's absolutes that I really can't sum up anything other than a sense of disgust and anger.

The only nations you could show as examples of a 'better' outlook are those who are more 'Westernised' and therefore suffer the ire of their brother states for backsliding and suffer insurgents trying to bully them into a more hardline and fanatical government.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:Ignorant?

You mean I forgot about The Yemen?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Yemen

Oh, perhaps I didn't consider Iran...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_the_Islamic_Republic_of_Iran

Have a think about that for a second. I pointed out that not all Muslim countries are like the worst examples. To counter this you cited two other examples of oppressive societies. As if one example is one only one country, but three countries means every Muslim country is an oppressive theocracy.

What about Jordan? Or the UAE? Or Pakistan. These are countries with human rights issues but to characterise life in any of them as being "ruled over by foul-mouthed zealots with more concern about ensuring a teenage girl is buried up to her neck and stoned alive for witchcraft" is well... only possible when you know absolutely nothing about any of those countries.


Edit- posted before I caught your edit. I enjoyed my time in Indonesia. I loved my time in the Islamic NW and NE of India. Wonderful, friendly people with an interest in the world. I hated Dubai, but that was because it was all glass and steel... utterly boring.

And when you talk about Islam being so utterly destructive... I have Muslim friends. None of them want to overtake my country and install Sharia law. Most of them just want to hang out. I can't dissuade you from such a strong opinion over the internet, all I can do is ask you to get outside the crap media coverage and start meeting these people. Seriously, they're just like us. They've got a few more crazies, but freaking out about the whole billion muslims out there isn't going to reduce the strength of those crazies.

You should also mention Indonesia, which is about the best example of a reasonably progressive, yet socially conservative state that exists in the world.

Another point: calling these places "hell holes" is a personal statement about one's opinion of them. These protesters that are being accosted do like them. In fact, they probably want England to be more like their home nations. Most immigrants to the UK probably come seeking economic opportunity, not cultural assimilation.

they probably want England to be more like their home nations. Most immigrants to the UK probably come seeking economic opportunity, not cultural assimilation.

England is full, feth off somewhere else.

Now, to what you said: I couldnt give a flying feth what they want, they cant come into another country and expect it to change for them.
Ive been shot at plenty out in the sandbox, simply for being there.
If i walked down the street and took shots at some afghan walking down the road, i'd get a dishonourable discharge and 20 years.

Not only that, but 9/10 immigrants are out of work claiming benefits.
6/10 of those have a family which are also out of work and have kids.

They are just like fething rats draining down the country resources.


Send em home or shoot em, not fussed either way.

I think this thread has run its course.