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Doesn't the rule state the ork counts as charging?

G

Yes, now find the rule that states the Ork is in BtB

Hint: it isn't.

"Counts as Charging" /= "is actually charging", otherwise it wouldnt be "counts as"

Clues in the language used, oddly enough.

nosferatu1001 wrote:Yes, now find the rule that states the Ork is in BtB

Hint: it isn't.

"Counts as Charging" /= "is actually charging", otherwise it wouldnt be "counts as"

Clues in the language used, oddly enough.

And making an orks attacks as if it were charging, which is what the rule actually calls for =/= ork counts as charging or actually charging

Green Blow Fly wrote:Doesn't the rule state the ork counts as charging?

G

It says "A Single Embarked Ork to make his close combat attacks against the enemy vehicle within 2" exactly as if the ork were disembarked and charging, provided neithe vehicle has moved more than 12"."

NOUN: "A Single Embarked Ork"
Action Allowed by the rules: "to make his close combat attacks against the enemy vehicle within 2"
Limits or modifications to the action: "exactly as if the ork were disembarked and charging, provided neither vehicle has moved more than 12"

The rule does not grant anything to happen except the attacks of the embarked ork. Rules are permissive.

What you are reading the rule to say is: "A Single Embarked Ork is allowed to resolve a round of combat against the enemy vehicle within 2" by allowing the ork to disembarked and assault into BtB, provided neither vehicle has moved more than 12". During combat, the single model counts as a unit for combat resolution. At the end of combat resolution, the model immediately re-embarks on to the vehicle.

The rule doesn't say any of this. Which makes your interpretation RAI by definition.

Rules say what you can do... And this rule as written doesn't allow in any way for the normal rules of close combat to be executed. It simply doesn't due to the definition of the English phrase "as if" and sentence structure.

The rule states the model counts as charging? What does charging mean in 5th Ed. 40k? So what attacks can the Ork make? It is asking for a situation not covered by the rules. So surely the plank is entirely useless by RAW?

You certainly don't get +1A +1S +1I by RAW as it doesn't say you are initiating an assault.

What does making it's attacks as is disembarked and charging allow it to do? What attacks does a charging model make? I can find no reference to this in the BRB please enlighten me?

Like I said it breaks the rules when used against a walker.

G

Green Blow Fly wrote:Like I said it breaks the rules when used against a walker.

G

Again, you make a statement with no rules backing, which is in fact in complete contrary to what the *actual* rules say.

Troll much?

To make it clear: when used against a vehicle (walker) it breaks no rules.

To make it clear: when used against a vehicle (walker) it breaks no rules.

But what rules does it use to resolve the attacks? What "attacks" does a model make when charging? What does charging mean by RaW in 5th Ed.?

Exactly! Does it hit Based on far the dread moved?

G

Green Blow Fly wrote:Exactly! Does it hit Based on far the dread moved?

G

Errm... What? Do you normally hit based on how far the dread moved? Or are you just trolling, as usual?

wOw next you'll say it hits on hte rear armor.

* face palimony *