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Chapterhouse wrote:John,

You are ok, dont worry about it. I appologize for his replies.

Nick

You should apologize, JohnWangDD's opinion is the most important on Dakka. Just ask him!

And remember, he's never being rude or overly critical - it's 'telling it like it is!'

Keep on rocking Wang, you crazy crazy diamond...

In other news, I have no criticisms of the heads and nothing but praise. They look great.

Now... about some grecian Hoplite-ish styled helms. Suitable for, say, a bunch of purple armour wearing 'offspring of the imperial ruler' kinda guys...

JohnHwangDD wrote:
But as I said, I won't make that mistake with you again. Sorry.

And so JohnHwangDD has now officially become a martyr and a saint of Dakkadom. In other news at ten.....

I feeled ignored. I asked the question how much are these going to be worth?

Can we have more bionic sculpts?
They look great , wont infringe GW , im sure lots of people want them.

I think they will be priceless!

Honestly, I cant give an answer until they have been molded and cost to make is found out.

ZOMG(sorry to excited to actually read the thread, so apologies if its already been mentioned) but some of these helmets remind me of the dudes standing behind/next to the emperor in this pic:
http://gamingtp.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/fullview_emperor-horus.jpg

If you could sculpt helmets that look like the ones in the lower right corner of that image (I.E. - capture that level of detail/intricacy in the sculpt) I will buy a chapters worth of these heads from you (that may be an exaggeration), especially if you can sculpt matching shoulder pads The helmets look fairly similar to the second image you posted, I'm sure you could easily modify it...

...and I dont even play marines... although this could persuade me otherwise...

Although I did catch a comment about truescaling kits... yeah, those would be awesome too... definitely start marines then...

chaos0xomega wrote:ZOMG(sorry to excited to actually read the thread, so apologies if its already been mentioned) but some of these helmets remind me of the dudes standing behind/next to the emperor in this pic:
http://gamingtp.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/fullview_emperor-horus.jpg

You're quite right!

WHO exactly are they? I can't tell which Legion they're supposed to represent...

My comments...

A: I severly dislike the greek style "ear to ear" plumage, and wouldn't buy this head, However, the proportions, mask, and helmet design all look ace. Without the row of spikes I would jump on it.

B: It appears that the bottom of the "jaw" vent is not symmetrical, I do love the layered style of the helmet in the back.

C: Looks stellar, nothing strikes me as odd or out of place, and it definately captures the style you were going for (I assume).

D: This is one of my favorite, I cant pin my finger on exactly why, I just really like this one a lot.

E: Looks like a "pignosed" varient of C, Also looks stellar, the biker comment above was accurate. I like it.

F: it appears the front band with rivets on the helmet tapers off into the lip of the helmet, this is fine as I can see you did that on the sides too, but it looks like the slope is a bit off, its nitpicking, but I know honest critique is hard to get. It looks like between the two rivets on the front its about 1mm too short. I would bulk that out just a smidge, then have the band taper off at a sharper angel after the bottom rivet. Other than that this helmet almost made me nergasm. Great job.

G: DO WANT! Love it. Second Favorite.

H: F+G almost made me nergasm, this pushed me over the edge, my favorite of all, Between the smooth front stylized faceplate to the "Y"s in the rebreathers, to the rivets on the sides of the helmet, all is full of win.

I: Honestly this one doesnt belong in this batch. There is a need for someone to make a Space Marine skull helmet, but this just isn't it. If you want to do a jaw-less skull helmet it needs to look a bit less like a real skull supported by a helmet, and more like a helmet fashioned to look like a skull. The eyes are too low, the top of the head is too big, I like the detail work and I Wish it worked, but getting proportions wrong just turns everything off on a model.

Hope my opinion helps, And I look forward to getting a batch of these+the heresey Jump Packs from you guys soon

I love the gass mask look, and am a big fan of converting stormtroppers. I see good things hapining here.

Alpharius wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:ZOMG(sorry to excited to actually read the thread, so apologies if its already been mentioned) but some of these helmets remind me of the dudes standing behind/next to the emperor in this pic:
http://gamingtp.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/fullview_emperor-horus.jpg

You're quite right!

WHO exactly are they? I can't tell which Legion they're supposed to represent...

Those are old school Custodes. They were the only ones able to make it to the fight with the Emperor and Horus, if I remember right...

It's funny, but books, movies,and everybody else has to deal with post-production reviews.

But as I said, I won't make that mistake with you again. Sorry.

My point was and is, it is not ok to criticize concepts that are already set in stone. for that people go to the source of said concepts and complain there, not to the writer of a book during a post production interview.

Lets take your book and its post production criticism as a perfect example:
Tolkien et al came up with elven concepts.
A writer later publishes a book about orks and elves.
Then as a post production interviewer, as you say it, it would be ok for me to point out, suggest, complain about and criticize things like writing skills, bad storyline etc but NOT complain to the writer about the elves that I would like to see short and muscular instead of tall and thin since that "concept" is already set and not in the hands of the writer.

A: I severly dislike the greek style "ear to ear" plumage, and wouldn't buy this head, However, the proportions, mask, and helmet design all look ace. Without the row of spikes I would jump on it.

Ah, ok. Sorry it didnt fell to your tastes. Maybe it could still be usable in your hands after filing of the spiky plume?
Cutting metal is hard but filing I have no problems with myself.

B: It appears that the bottom of the "jaw" vent is not symmetrical, I do love the layered style of the helmet in the back.

Hmm, yes it appears to be this way in the pic. I honestly dont recall this one being non symmetrical when I finished with it. Weird but you seem to be right, hopefully the slight symmetrical flaw can be overlooked by people.

C: Looks stellar, nothing strikes me as odd or out of place, and it definately captures the style you were going for (I assume).

Thanks
I recall having trouble with the mesh pattern on the front of the rebreather cartridges, it could be crisper but I had a hard time doing them since even the scalpell tip was rather to big for the small space there.

D: This is one of my favorite, I cant pin my finger on exactly why, I just really like this one a lot.

Its inspired by the death guard IA pics. Official fluff that is.

E: Looks like a "pignosed" varient of C, Also looks stellar, the biker comment above was accurate. I like it.

Inspired by an amalgamation of concepts found in HH artbooks, HH novel cover art and german ww2 helmets...and some madmax.
Also the spikes are easy to cut of if people dont like them.

F: it appears the front band with rivets on the helmet tapers off into the lip of the helmet, this is fine as I can see you did that on the sides too, but it looks like the slope is a bit off, its nitpicking, but I know honest critique is hard to get. It looks like between the two rivets on the front its about 1mm too short. I would bulk that out just a smidge, then have the band taper off at a sharper angel after the bottom rivet. Other than that this helmet almost made me nergasm. Great job.

You are right, the bands display a slight thickness flaw in that place.
The bulbs/rivets are perfectly symmetrical though, the different spacing that you pointed out between the bottom front rivet and the upper ones is a deliberate thing by me and the spacing is copied on all sides so it looks ok. Dunno why I did it like that, just felt like it I guess.

And the band ending at the helmet edge and not going over the face mask is deliberate, as I already said after the top quote, I wanted a distinct feeling of helmet + mask as opposed to a one piece head gear because this is a strong concept of old looking marine armour, a concept kinda set in stone that I choose to follow.

G: DO WANT! Love it. Second Favorite.

Cool

H: F+G almost made me nergasm, this pushed me over the edge, my favorite of all, Between the smooth front stylized faceplate to the "Y"s in the rebreathers, to the rivets on the sides of the helmet, all is full of win.

Nice that you liked it. The cartridges really gave me a headache. I wanted different patterns on them and also conversion and placing functionality.
For that I needed the round shapes to go, hopfully people can accept non perfect round cartridges anyway.

I: Honestly this one doesnt belong in this batch. There is a need for someone to make a Space Marine skull helmet, but this just isn't it. If you want to do a jaw-less skull helmet it needs to look a bit less like a real skull supported by a helmet, and more like a helmet fashioned to look like a skull. The eyes are too low, the top of the head is too big, I like the detail work and I Wish it worked, but getting proportions wrong just turns everything off on a model.

I assume you are talking about the resculpted skull version?
Yeah, its kinda an love it or hate it helmet, what can I say

But you are right, it doesnt belong in the death guard -ish category and sure, it wont be placed there either.

I think I figured out what I don't like about these sculpts. The attempt to give them a Stahlhelm look makes it look like they're wearing helmets on their helmets. "Yo, Dawg! I heard you like helmets..."

Well it's a much better idea than running around without a helmet at all.

Wow, these are so cool! I love them because they're so different to what's out there. Especially the ones with the bumps on the helmets... I'm a sucker for bumps on helmets (just like bumps on shoulder pads)...

Can't wait to see them casted! Great work, Pyriel and it's awesome to see that you were able to change the last one in response to feedback, too!

Very nice - I think these would make excellent CSM heads - great for a 'lower profile' army where you dont want every model to have horns or a topknot jutting out the top of the helmet!

If I were starting a new army I would definately consider buying these, however as I already have large amounts of glued together CSM, Im unlikely to need any more heads!

Just wanted to let everyone know, these are going in for molding today.

The spike helmets will be in a resin set, as well as the gasmask helmets.

The skull helmet will be alone.

Also the Resin Jumppack is being molded in sets of 5.

Nick

Can't wait to see these guys painted up... Have been quiet on new models this week, I was getting used to the constant good news!

Nice!

These are being molded next week so I will have preorder prices available then

I like these heads - and especially the improved/resculpted skull head.
Some of the heads are a bit too much "Warzone" for my taste - but I might use them for traitor guard anyway.


As for a skull helmet needing I lower jaw (or breathing apparatus):
I do not agree.
In this picture I wear my live role playing gear - which includes a home made helmet with a skull mask (inspired by General Kael in Willow):

...actually it is me X3 in the picture, due to photoshop duplication

Pyriel- wrote:So finished resculpting the skull helmet, removed the "cap" added a skull, made it look armoured and added small vents on top to tie in more with the SM feel.
Hope it looks better then the previous one. I´m going to use it on legion of the damned minis myself and maybe as an imperial assassin.

Remade the "headphones" or audio augurs (whatever they are called).
Added those hallow spaces behind the eye bones as well thanks to being reminded to do skulls as they are supposed to look.

This allows me to make my own chaplins for my Flesh Tearers. I can't wait.

Hehe, wait till you see the Fleshtearer Terminator Pads one of our new guys just did, youll #@$% yourself.

Any pics and what is the eta? Starting my FT from scratch and want to be sure everything is perfect.

2-3 weeks. No pics yet (that I can show ).

I can hardly wait I ordered 20 jump packs for pre heresy and these will go nicely

Whips are in hand, I need to photo them and post on the site, the warrior ones will go for $2 each the extra beefy tyrant ones will for $4.

P.S. First sets of boneswords will ship to customers tommorow. Demand is way outstripping supply, but if your order is in, they will be shipped.

Heresy jumppacks were not molding well, so they will be in next week (quality over speed).

Damn, dont say the green master was ruined...

Pyriel- wrote:

just interested in future head designs is there any cahnce of a wolf skull style one?

Hmm, GW already sell those so I dont know really.
Maybe if enough people nag about them I can cook something up

GW has a wolf head...and some wolf skulls ornaments. Unfortuantely, the wolf skulls are a bit too small to use as a helmet for my wolf priest conversions . But yeah...nag, nag, nag, nag . By the way the skull helmet does look very impressive and would be a great addition for someone who wanted to make a entire chapter of "the legion of the damned".

Those are some excellent looking helmets. Personally, I really think that these would go great on space marines. Awesome job.

Gotta ask, how's the Jet-seer coming? I've had an interest in 'em recently, and a Farseer on a bike would be amazing for what I've got planned.