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Terminus wrote:It's anime because of the proportionally huge eyeballs and tiny mouth.
Are we looking at the same image?

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@Melissa: Discussions require good faith. If you're going to argue that Blanche's work isn't definitive 40k then there's little point continuing this exchange. You are either being willfully contrary or don't know much about GW. I've seen a lot of people on Dakka who like scifi or wargames or miniatures but don't really like 40k. They are forever talking about how 40k should be something other than what is actually is. Your sisters fandex and harping against Blanche are examples of this.

   
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Good faith != accepting everything everyone says without proof to back it up. I look at the John Blanche art that I have seen, and I see nothing of the 40K I know and love.

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He's GW's art director, and has been one of their principle artists since the late 70s. He also paints a mean miniature.

That said, GW has been moving away in recent years from his brand of "punk fantasy", but the new GW art just sucks (see BA cover).

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This is getting very off topic now, though... so yeah.

*exits stage left, pursued by a bear*

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Melissia wrote:
Terminus wrote:The second picture fails because it looks like a pouty anime character. And gasp! She has the boob cups you hate so much!

The last is actually from a GW artist.
The second image is better than the John Blanche crap you posted earlier because it actually portrays some kind of emotion. And how is that "anime"?


EMOTION?! Are you SODDING KIDDING ME? I think you got lost looking for the sex in the city boardgame when you found 40k. This is WARhammer, not hormonehammer.

First of all, melissia you exaggerate way too much. The sisters models do not have giant breasts oversizing their heads. Their boob cups are not all that large, and in fact show a tone of sexiness while also exhibiting strength and power. They aren't wearing g-strings and pasties while wielding a power sword as you make it sound.

I can't believe you continue to shed so much hate an drawings by blanche , but then post anime?! Are you serious?! There is no form of media that objectifies and overly sexualizes women MORE than anime. In addition the effect is even further plunged into depravity by making them all look like they are 8-12 years old. They do not look like strong women, but giggly little primary schoolers. It's pretty gross actually.

The more you post, the more I think that this is just a subliminal "I hate tina because she's skinny and gets attention" thread. If I am wrong, I appologize, but you seem to just want women covered up and made a asexual as possible. How does that fit to making women equals and allowing them to be themselves? Based on what you want, why don't you just make some tiny felt burkas and put over the models. The sexual repression motif might suit you.

The next one of you that posts about Wraiths being I2 and ignores the whip coils mentioned 2000 times a week, and I am going to devote the rest of my life to becoming an ancient space god to trick and enslave a race, and turn them into soulless T-100s to rid the entire universe of life. At that point it will have been worth it.  
   
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Nightsbane wrote:First of all, melissia you exaggerate way too much. The sisters models do not have giant breasts oversizing their heads. Their boob cups are not all that large, and in fact show a tone of sexiness while also exhibiting strength and power. They aren't wearing g-strings and pasties while wielding a power sword as you make it sound.



ahem.. would a corset that only covers one breast and a giant phallically held chainsword be the equivalent?

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1080202

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Blanche's art sucks warm piss through a straw.
   
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Ah, I can see this is your first foray into trolling. Not a terrible first attempt, but leaves something to be desired. But don't despair, just keep at it and I'm sure you'll successfully annoy someone someday! Keep that chin up, boyo!
   
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warboss wrote:
Nightsbane wrote:First of all, melissia you exaggerate way too much. The sisters models do not have giant breasts oversizing their heads. Their boob cups are not all that large, and in fact show a tone of sexiness while also exhibiting strength and power. They aren't wearing g-strings and pasties while wielding a power sword as you make it sound.



ahem.. would a corset that only covers one breast and a giant phallically held chainsword be the equivalent?

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1080202


"Confession and penance are part of a Sister's everyday existence, those who fall short of the rigorous codes may find themselves banded into groups and led into battle in an attempt to earn redemption."

Do you know a single thing about ancient repentance? Ripping your clothes and wearing sack cloth? If not then you don't get to have an opinion on the unit referenced.

Phallic symbol? Really? That's an argument used my militant female college lit professors, not the rest of the thinking world.

The next one of you that posts about Wraiths being I2 and ignores the whip coils mentioned 2000 times a week, and I am going to devote the rest of my life to becoming an ancient space god to trick and enslave a race, and turn them into soulless T-100s to rid the entire universe of life. At that point it will have been worth it.  
   
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Lets bring this back on topic.

http://majesticchicken.deviantart.com/art/Adepta-Sororitas-161999678

A nicely colored version of some GW black and white art.

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Melissia wrote:Lets bring this back on topic.

http://majesticchicken.deviantart.com/art/Adepta-Sororitas-161999678

A nicely colored version of some GW black and white art.


Kind of hard to have ANY topic with you when you continue to make statements and then ignore any counterpoint.

However I would like to know what you find wrong with THAT picture you just listed.

The next one of you that posts about Wraiths being I2 and ignores the whip coils mentioned 2000 times a week, and I am going to devote the rest of my life to becoming an ancient space god to trick and enslave a race, and turn them into soulless T-100s to rid the entire universe of life. At that point it will have been worth it.  
   
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Nightsbane wrote:
Phallic symbol? Really? That's an argument used my militant female college lit professors, not the rest of the thinking world.


Calm down, mate.

Nightsbane wrote:

However I would like to know what you find wrong with THAT picture you just listed.


Even in that, I can see that the boob cups are a bit overdone for even my tastes. But hey, this is GW. They not going to let the boob cups go. As for John Blanche, he does some pretty cool stuff:'re



But then...



Evidence suggests that the claim of a "High Heel Fetish" is not entirely unfounded.

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Nightsbane wrote:
warboss wrote:
Nightsbane wrote:First of all, melissia you exaggerate way too much. The sisters models do not have giant breasts oversizing their heads. Their boob cups are not all that large, and in fact show a tone of sexiness while also exhibiting strength and power. They aren't wearing g-strings and pasties while wielding a power sword as you make it sound.



ahem.. would a corset that only covers one breast and a giant phallically held chainsword be the equivalent?

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1080202


"Confession and penance are part of a Sister's everyday existence, those who fall short of the rigorous codes may find themselves banded into groups and led into battle in an attempt to earn redemption."

Do you know a single thing about ancient repentance? Ripping your clothes and wearing sack cloth? If not then you don't get to have an opinion on the unit referenced.

Phallic symbol? Really? That's an argument used my militant female college lit professors, not the rest of the thinking world.


Actually, the pose and positioning of the sword can be viewed as quite phallic. And that outfit isn't exactly "sack cloth", which is essentually a bag of rough cloth used to carry seeds or grain.
However: those models would be perfect for my planned Chaos sisters army.

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Actually I ignored it so that this topic wouldn't be closed. It was getting too heated for my tastes.

As for what I find wrong with that picture I posted? Do you mean the one by Karl Kopinski that was recolored by MajesticChicken? I like it quite a bit, actually. Although I still dislike the corset and boob cups, that particular image did it tastefully. Mind you, I think the lipstick is out of character, but that's hardly an issue that detracts from its artistic merit.

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@EF: That is one of my favorite 40k pics of all time. Used to be the cover of the BFG boxed set.

@Melissa: I love that last one you posted. I think that captures the Sisters pretty well as far as the "modern" GW style (like IG4th cover) goes. At the end of the day, however, 40k is illustrated by John Blanche, scripted by Ian Watson, with soundtrack by Iron Maiden. Anything else is just a marketing scam.

@Terminus: As far as "punk fantasy" (awesome label for it btw) goes, GW is actually going back to that a bit--not to everyone's delight, as you noted. The BA5th and IG5th covers were both by David Gallagher. Personally, I love both covers (Sanguinary Priest's weird neck bend aside) but I can also see why people don't go for them. It's hard to see how anyone claiming to love 40k wouldn't love this, however:

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I don't mind that picture, I just wish it were more coherent.

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That style of art reminds me a lot of the works of Sergio Aragones. Lots of little details that can draw the viewer in. Unfortunately it can also be too busy and confusing if done wrong....


Of all the races of the universe the Squats have the longest memories and the shortest tempers. They are uncouth, unpredictably violent, and frequently drunk. Overall, I'm glad they're on our side!

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Nightsbane wrote:
Do you know a single thing about ancient repentance? Ripping your clothes and wearing sack cloth? If not then you don't get to have an opinion on the unit referenced.

Phallic symbol? Really? That's an argument used my militant female college lit professors, not the rest of the thinking world.
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i'm quite familiar with the biblical acts of wearing sack cloths and covering yourself with ashes, NEITHER of which is pertinent to the models referenced since they're not doing that. if you don't realize this then you don't get to have an opinion (your trolling words, not mine). if you don't realize that a giant sword whose hilt is held to the crotch of a scantily clad S&M female model is a phallic symbol then you shouldn't consider yourself a part of the thinking world (your words again). if you don't see the blantant sexuality in those models then you must be the most innocent minded pure hearted virgin on dakka.

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A virgin on Dakka? No way! I thought virgins were only allowed on the BoLS!

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Melissia wrote:A virgin on Dakka? No way! I thought virgins were only allowed on the BoLS!


this is a site devoted to playing toy soldiers frequented by more than a few grown men. i'm sure there is more than one 40 year old virgin on this site, lol.

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Sorry for going back to the OT, but here's some pictures I like. Sorry if I've posted any repeats.













And this is for you anti-boob cup people:



 
   
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The first one is an arbitrator from the Dark Heresy rulebook.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e317/tacotheif/wh40k/1255858907769.jpg
That one's a psyker, rather than a Sister

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e317/tacotheif/wh40k/1274618871688.jpg
I'm... not sure what that androgynous mess is. An Inquisitor or an Arbitrator no doubt, based on the shock maul.

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cool color art there. those were definitely new for me although i'm not exactly a collector of sob art any more than IG.

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warboss wrote: . . . a giant sword whose hilt is held to the crotch of a scantily clad S&M female model is a phallic symbol . . .
To paraphrase Freud, sometimes an Eviscerator is just an Eviscerator.


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Melissia wrote:http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e317/tacotheif/wh40k/1255858907769.jpg
That one's a psyker, rather than a Sister.
Actually, that's a Planeswalker from MtG.




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Melissia wrote:http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e317/tacotheif/wh40k/1274618871688.jpg
I'm... not sure what that androgynous mess is. An Inquisitor or an Arbitrator no doubt, based on the shock maul.
And that is Shira Calpurnia. See: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Shira_Calpurnia_(Novel_Series)

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Haha Chandra on fire as a psyker, thats a good one.

EDIT: I need a couple of those.

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On the topic of MtG women...


Elspeth definitely has a "Sisters" feel to her.

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Manchu wrote:To paraphrase Freud, sometimes an Eviscerator is just an Eviscerator.
To paraphrase the internet: "Yeah, and sometimes it's a big chainsaw dick"

*Note that I do not approve of adding subtext to everything, not everything has it. But it's rather blatant on those miniatures given all the other sexualization present.

I was looking through DeviantArt, and sadly, I couldn't find much that was actually worth posting that hadn't already been posted. Damn DeviantArt.

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Melissia wrote:
Manchu wrote:To paraphrase Freud, sometimes an Eviscerator is just an Eviscerator.
To paraphrase the internet: "Yeah, and sometimes it's a big chainsaw dick"
There's your problem right there.

I won't deny that there is some sexuality to the Repentia (not buying the phallus-chainsword nonsense). But I'm not really sure what you're getting at by pointing it out.

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Actually I mostly just dislike the Repentia models. I wish they were wearing robes instead of tiny stripperific strips of leather.

Robes make sense, but bondage gear doesn't really...

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