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eNvY wrote:True-scaling marines isn't so much about scaling them in comparison with other models, it's about making their physical dimensions look more realistic. As they are now, space marines have very big heads and arms/hands compared to the rest of their bodies.

The 40k3 SMs had oversized heads, but the newest SMs have better, smaller heads.

Regardless, the Cadians and Catachans are much too big. If they were shrunk down in height, to 28mm at top of helmet, then everything else in the 40k universe automatically becomes more properly heroic in scale.

Basing ordinary humans around 6'4" uberhumans was GW's worst mistake in going to plastic. Keep them at 5'6" to 5'8", and everything else starts to look better.

ph34r wrote:So how often does FW do newsletters? When do you think we will see another preview of their new marine stuff?

They don't really have a set schedule. They just...do it.

eNvY wrote:I'm hoping the next time they release space marine plastic kits they do away with the "heroic" scale and just make them realistic. The True Scale marines I've seen on the P&M section look fantastic.

And replace every single plastic and metal line across 7 separate armies? No. They won't do that.

cadbren wrote:Beautiful looking marine helmet there but I wouldn't call it a mk V. It's a mk VII that has been retro-fitted to look like a mk II or III, the Great Crusade era helmets. That wide top vent first appeared on the mk VII helmets. Supposedly the mk VIII (errant armour) suits are distinguished by those high armoured collars yet it seems that everyone wants their crusade and heresy era marines to have them on the earlier marks too.

The mk V helmets are distinguished by the longer nose piece which eventually became the classic "beakie" helmet of the mk VI (corvus) type. There's well established fluff on marine armour, it would be nice if they stuck to it.

not true that IS a MK 5 heresy suit

It would be much simpler for GW to modify the marine body/scale then all the other ranges out there.

I really think the players would appreciate such a move, I do not see it happening though.

Nick

Chapterhouse wrote:It would be much simpler for GW to modify the marine body/scale then all the other ranges out there.

Huh? Marines are half of what GW sells, so they stay. Orks can be big, along with Nids.

Eldar can hold at being slightly shorter than a Marine, since Elves are supposed to be a little taller than a basic human.

That leaves Tau and Guard, which are 3 lines (Tau, Cadians, & Catachans), all of which are supposed to be human-scaled. Actually, Tau can even be shrunk down to 5'3" to 5'6", slightly shorter than a human, just to further drive the point home.

Guard (and Tau) are the an easy fix to "true scale", wiith much smaller impact on the range.


Tho, of course, GW does need to make the SM heads even smaller, but fixing the "humans" automatically upscales the SMs.

TyraelVladinhurst wrote:

cadbren wrote:Beautiful looking marine helmet there but I wouldn't call it a mk V. It's a mk VII that has been retro-fitted to look like a mk II or III, the Great Crusade era helmets. That wide top vent first appeared on the mk VII helmets. Supposedly the mk VIII (errant armour) suits are distinguished by those high armoured collars yet it seems that everyone wants their crusade and heresy era marines to have them on the earlier marks too.

The mk V helmets are distinguished by the longer nose piece which eventually became the classic "beakie" helmet of the mk VI (corvus) type. There's well established fluff on marine armour, it would be nice if they stuck to it.

not true that IS a MK 5 heresy suit

Sorry, you're right, but the corvus is still based on the mk IV and the FW helmet is definitely based on the earlier marks. I was looking at that Armour through the Ages set that GW sells and they have the marks around the wrong way.