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I just meant as an aesthetic detail, that GW was insistant on. If they needed it. They could have kept it by what I showed in my above picture. We haven't seen the rear end, for all we know, like the Thunderhawk it could have a third engine below the tail that needs that inlet.

Epic fail in my opinion, I'm more excited to see what others do with it rather than the actually kit itself.

Yes, I know it doesn't matter that it's not aerodynamic as this is a just a game in a sci-fi world but damn is it ugly. I have to agree with others that the conversions using the Valks actually look better.

Looks like I'll be converting my own. Also, I do agree that this "leak" is quite suspicious. I doubt GW doesn't look at the interwebz but I do feel they stay out of it so they don't HAVE to listen to our opinions. So they toss us a bone (oopsie, we leaked a Stormraven picture, my bad! LOL) every once in a while and let the comments/hype run wild!

I think it would be better looking if it was actually complete.

That one isn't, there's parts missing.

It's modeled great but it's absolutly ridiculous. It would fall over instantly and forever, it looks like a flying shortbus, and the tiny non functioning tail is just silly.

I love games workshops artists and modelers, but seriously; whoever does the imperial designs should be punched in the gut and replaced by a highschool student who didn't fail physics.

As a side note, if that's a complete model then that's just a really crappy angle.

Wow... it's... umm... that is not what I expected.

It really does look like a plane that's had the back of the fuselage cut off and the wings left with the tiniest of connection points. And that turret... it's aesthetics don't match other Marine turrets at all (a bit like how the Wave Serpent turret is virtually alien compared to other Eldar weapon mountings).

I don't like it. It doesn't look 'right'. There's something very 'off' about it.

'Chibi-Hawk' is a great name for it though.

Looks like a thunderhawk that ran into a mountain and got accordioned.

However do you think the turret may be transferable to say a razorback? Now that could be quite a cool conversion.

Lennysmash wrote:However do you think the turret may be transferable to say a razorback? Now that could be quite a cool conversion.

Chances are you can swap them.

The Las turret from a SR with assault cannons instead of Lascannons would make a badass RB turret.

I think it only looks bad from that angle. I like the turret.

hmm, the turret could be used in combination with chapterhouse's MK1 rhino kit to make MK1 razorbacks

My word for it would be chunky.

I realized what they are doing. There is so much demand for this model, they are reducing demand by makingthe thing so ugly you don't want it.

spireland wrote:I realized what they are doing. There is so much demand for this model, they are reducing demand by makingthe thing so ugly you don't want it.

Clever girl

Chances are it will be the same price as the Valkyrie and Land Raider, so even less chance of it going anywhere fast.

The main part really does look like the first Land Raider...

I could see some conversions in that direction, if it weren't for the fact that this thing has got to be push $60 to $70, right?

If that thing is going to tank in at €50,-- I'm not expecting to see a lot of them.

I think it must have something to do with restoring balance to the universe. GW can only have so many armies with amazing sculpts, so having dragged Dark Eldar out of the mire, it's now Space Marines who have to suffer aesthetically.

I expect they will charge the same as the Land Raider and Valkyrie.

Which means, I can live without one.

Thanks, GW!

Its like an A-10. Ugly as Sin, but beautiful in what it does

The only thing I look forward to in regards to this model is seeing what people kitbash with the parts. I really like MajorTom11's photoshop though. That I might get excited about.

If you like this model you need to be deprogrammed.

Makes me sad because now I have to make two more of my scratch-builds and that cost me a damn mint! This unit just screamed to be a badass sculpt. Way to shat the bed GW!

Darkness wrote:Its like an A-10. Ugly as Sin, but beautiful in what it does

Oddly enough, I like the visuals of the A10 better than I do... any military aircraft with the F prefix that I know of other than the F-117. A pity that the F22/F35 crafts which replaced it are such ugly little gaks.

It's now time for all those 3rd party manufacturers to start making 'extension kits' that extend the fuselage outwards so that it looks like an actual aircraft rather than... whatever that thing is meant to be.

Maxstreel wrote:Yes, I know it doesn't matter that it's not aerodynamic as this is a just a game in a sci-fi world but damn is it ugly. I have to agree with others that the conversions using the Valks actually look better.

Looks like I'll be converting my own. Also, I do agree that this "leak" is quite suspicious. I doubt GW doesn't look at the interwebz but I do feel they stay out of it so they don't HAVE to listen to our opinions. So they toss us a bone (oopsie, we leaked a Stormraven picture, my bad! LOL) every once in a while and let the comments/hype run wild!

Yeah I think this is classic Oooopps GW made a mestake (but not really). The web page that got up was about to tell us how we are going to be painting this wonder machine (stupid seen as it hasn't been even mentioned as a released yet) which makes it easier for GW to make this out to be some sort of mestaken release. I.e. something they can easily clean off their respective boots later.

What they are most likely doing is testing the water with a beta model to get our first impressions on a model they are not 100% on themselves. With the idea being that if we all go "yay, we love it" they schedule a release sometime early 2011 with the new Plastic Furioso Dread (see my previous post). If we all go "no, thats just bad" (as in this case), GW pass it off as a goof up and the designers are sent packing back to the drawing board.

Though that may just be wishful thinking.

I think GW are going to sell more of these to Ork players then Space Marine players, it's got Big Trakk/Battlewagon written all over it.

I like it! It fits in rather nicely with the 'chunky' Space Marine aesthetic. I'lll hold off on my full judgement before I see a few more shots, but I have a feeling this will go down much like the new Daemon Prince did; ugly as sin in the promo shots, but actually quite nice IRL.

L. Wrex

Addendum: I see a lot of people complaining that it looks to front-heavy. Don't forget this thing has a DREADNOUGHT slung underneath it people! Imagine that pic, and then add a Dreadnought and I think your weight/balance issues might be addressed.