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I like the Kings of War core rules. I started playing table tops with GW Fantasy, but it always ended in two people standing at a gaming table reading the same book simultaneously trying to look up some special rules...and then switching to a codex.

KoW is a fairly easy read and after a few demo games there is barely any need to look things up anymore... love that.

I think the Ogres are great models as well... but true, some elves really look like they are straight from the 80s.

I like the KoW rules even though I started with WHFB back in the 80's when the first release called itself "the fantasy battle role-playing game". I also like their policy of letting you try their various rules for free. Their fantasy rank and file are usually decent, but I won't buy any more of their big models after a disappointing purchase of a Supreme Iron-caster on Great Winged Halfbreed (HUGE gap between head and neck which will require pinning before the putty work). As I did pledge for KoW:Vanguard, I'll see if the giant is any good. (It was included in the pledge).

Not especially interested in their Sci-fi stuff, but may give Warpath a try ... A friend who used to play W40K has an interest in Forge Fathers, and he is the one who introduced me to KoW, so it might happen.

I've no qualms about using non-GW models I like in my WHFB armies. Never have.

An awful lot of their stuff is ugly as sin and I wouldn't even dream of buying such sculpts. That said the sculpts for their upcoming Hellboy game (which I made sure to back) are absolutely fantastic and I really can't wait to get my hands on them.

My 6 y/o daughter really took to the Warpath Veer Myn models, so I got her some Nightmares and a Night Terror. The models are a good price, and nicely detailed and posed. The sprues also come with plenty of spare bits that I can use for 40K. I did take a quick look at the Warpath rules, but I thought "what's the point", I've already got 40K for this. It's not too hard to come up with some veer myn 40K stats.

 CuddlySquig wrote:
I only ever buy Games Workshop. Too brand-loyal to consider any other miniatures game as anything but a knockoff (even if they aren't)

I think that it really depends on a gaming community to determine what games a person would largely be invested in. I used to be primarily invested in 40K, but after I switched from a GW to a store one of my friends opened I started playing Xwing, Magic, Warmachine, Dropfleet, Dropzone, and a few others.

I like some of Mantic's stuff. I have the first few seasons of Dreadball which are good enough for the board game it is. I also have a bunch of their initial Deadzone stuff which had a few things easily rivaling GW stuff (remember GW still sells Finecast and near 20 year old kits). I largely stopped before Mantic dove into creating hard plastic kits, but I remember their Forge Father stuff was actually pretty good.

Recently got some of their TerrainCrate stuff as well as some 1st edition Deadzone orcs. The deadzone orcs are about what'd you expect from a third party miniatures manufactor - resin, with a few mould lines and some fitting challenges. The terrain crate stuff is well above that in quality however, pieces look nice, have few if any mould lines and work quite well. The 'crates' are pretty cheap and I think I'll be stocking up on more of these sci-fi crates for kill team.

Their terrain is good. I really don't care about anything else.

Some examples of their Sci Fi terrain:

And these.