Dakka decides the Deadliest 40k warrior ****"She's dead, Jim****

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**King Pariah**

I'm kicking myself for just remembering this SC, but Wazdakka Gutsmek

**Lobokai**

I'd like to see Cato in this. Just to see how far he makes it, not because he'd win. Khan on his Bike might have a chance given hit and run and furious charge.

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How on earth is Lysander out but Ulric in. If I get one nomination it's Lysander. He has to be in. Now I'm ticked as he will be entered late and not get the votes he should.

**DarthSpader**

added lysander, cato, and wazdakka to the list.

@ lobukia - still a week to get votes in. plus, since we are going to use the top 16, there is a very good chance your entrants can get the required votes. im sure they are very popular. i for one, also kind of brain farted - else i would have entered them myself.

**Lord Rogukiel**

I hope people understand this is just nominations, not actually voting to see who wins yet.

Anyways, I nominate Shadowsun and Commander Farsight just because.

**DarthOvious**

Not to be a pain in the backside but you're missing The Sanguinor from the list. In close combat he goes toe to toe against Mephiston. He's also more durable since he is an eternal warrior with a 3++ save. He's also WS8.

**DarthSpader**

shadowsun, farsight, and sanguinor added to the list.

**Kain**

If we're going to have Tau characters, then no list is complete without Shas'O'Ra'Lai, by all accounts the deadliest Tau SC of them all, even if he specializes in range.

And again, vote Old One Eye, we need a joke character.

**Eldercaveman**

Why isn't Dante on this list, OK he won't win, but come on, the guys a leg-end.

**DarthSpader**

i have not heard of shas'o 'ra'lai ? is he a FW character?

- dante added to list.

33 entrants in the pool now.

**Eldercaveman**

Is it only a one vote poll for this one?

**DarthSpader**

no. this is the nomination stage. the top 16 entrants (witht he most votes) will be put into a playoff format campaign like the last one. since there are SO many SC in the game, and only 16 spots, im doing a week long vote in to determine who gets into the match.

**Eldercaveman**

Ok, sorry for all the questions I only found this thread today, do you actually play out the battles, vassal or what?

**DarthOvious**

DarthSpader wrote:shadowsun, farsight, and sanguinor added to the list.

Sweet, thanks. I've now voted for him. Love the fluff and love the model. In the fluff he kicks Ka'bandha up the backside majorly.

**King Pariah**

Eldercaveman wrote:Ok, sorry for all the questions I only found this thread today, do you actually play out the battles, vassal or what?

No, it's a vote battle. Two individuals go head to head and whoever comes out on top with the most votes wins that round and proceeds on to the next round where they go head to head with another character until there is one left standing.

**Eldercaveman**

King Pariah wrote:
Eldercaveman wrote:Ok, sorry for all the questions I only found this thread today, do you actually play out the battles, vassal or what?

No, it's a vote battle. Two individuals go head to head and whoever comes out on top with the most votes wins that round and proceeds on to the next round where they go head to head with another character until there is one left standing.

ahh ok cool, someone should do this but vassal the battles, or simulate them somehow, get actual outcomes.

**King Pariah**

Eldercaveman wrote:
King Pariah wrote:
Eldercaveman wrote:Ok, sorry for all the questions I only found this thread today, do you actually play out the battles, vassal or what?

No, it's a vote battle. Two individuals go head to head and whoever comes out on top with the most votes wins that round and proceeds on to the next round where they go head to head with another character until there is one left standing.

ahh ok cool, someone should do this but vassal the battles, or simulate them somehow, get actual outcomes.

If you look at some of the past posts, you'll see that we sometimes reason out why one character should win via probability. It doesn't always get the desired result (Ex. the final match of the non-SC deadliest warrior was Necron Overlord vs. Hive Tyrant, and though probability ruled strongly in favor of the Overlord, the Hive Tyrant ended up winning), but it can be extremely helpful in getting desired votes.

**DarthSpader**

i did take partin an actual tournament with this format. players submitted their character, and fought it out in actual games. as it was great fun, i brought the idea to the forum. however orginizing and running vassal battles would be a headache... so i defaulted to the voting format. granted it ends up being more of a popularity contest, but there have been some neat debates, and good points on how certain characters work in 1v1 combat.

**Randall Turner**

Well, it's a headache to actually run the battles, but the finals left a bad taste in my mouth. That was about a 75% Necron Overlord win if you played it out. (And I know you played 10 games with your friend, but frankly the results you got made me wonder if you were playing the rules correctly - ie, MSS has a 50% chance *eveery single round*, it's not a one-time thing, and it succeeded once? wtf?)

What's the point if the contestant with the catchiest name wins?

**DarthSpader**

randall... the battles i ran the MSS did go off, problem was the attack roll was a 1, and alot failed to wound. the tyrant player also got a fairley good roll with his LD on those as well. there was a rather impressive streak of 1's and 2's when it came time for the MSS. - when it actually did work, it worked very well. but i only really mentioned it if it inflicted anything significant in the fight.

as mentioned, i kind of agree with the overlord outclassing the tyrant, but the votes spoke, and it would be a kick in the pants to the near 60 people who voted the way of the tyrant.

in any case.... moved on.

**riverhawks32**

No Marbo or Yarrick, cannot vote ;p

**Eidolon**

LOL at gazkgul winning.

**DarthSpader**

marbo and yarrick added.... good to see some IG coming in.

ghaz not winning.... just leading the nominations. no winner crowned with this one. only the 16 entrants with the most votes.however number of votes WILL determine "seeding" if you will.

edit: also clarfied the title of the poll.. a few too many seem to think THIS is the contest....when its not. hopefully that helps clear things up. - i also suggest reading the first post. has all the important news, updates etc.

edit: - straken added as well

36 entrants now in the pool

**King Pariah**

Colonel "I eat land sharks for breakfast" Straken

**Kain**

Ra'lai is indeed a forgeworld character, and he is the only Tau special character who is better then "meh".

**King Pariah**

Kain wrote:Ra'lai is indeed a forgeworld character, and he is the only Tau special character who is better then "meh".

Agreed, especially after the rules were changed from "Baby's first Lascannon" to "ASSAULT 2 LASCANNON."

**triplare**

Ghazzie for the Nomination!
Ghazzie for the Win!
("but maybe he'll lose...")
('Eadbut)
Ghazzie for the Win!

**DarthSpader**

im not sure about adding FW characters to the match. they tend to be much more powerful or have rules that make a massive diffirence.

however we do have a somewhat lack of tau entrants, in both this one so far, and the previous.

i suppose since tau have only 2 of the 36, there is no harm.... however i would request no more FW SC nominated please. in my exp FW characters or units tend to be a touch OP and it could be even worse in a 1v1 battle.

**AlmightyWalrus**

Helbrecht is not on the list, is he too busy killing stuff? Not that he'll win, but still.

Aun'va is also missing, and he's potentially the most lethal character in the game!

EDIT: You're also missing Anval Thawn, who along with Saint Celestine is unbeatable in this contest, seeing as they'll just keep reincarnating. The only SC that could arguably win is Zogwort, what with his squig-shenanigans.

**Kain**

DarthSpader wrote:im not sure about adding FW characters to the match. they tend to be much more powerful or have rules that make a massive diffirence.

however we do have a somewhat lack of tau entrants, in both this one so far, and the previous.

i suppose since tau have only 2 of the 36, there is no harm.... however i would request no more FW SC nominated please. in my exp FW characters or units tend to be a touch OP and it could be even worse in a 1v1 battle.

Ra'lai is actually fairly balanced, most of his better weapons have gets hot, and he only has a 3+ save and a 4+ save that only applies at range. Of course he can pull JSJ better than normal crisis suits can. And of course like most Tau characters he crumbles like a house of cards if assaulted by anything of note, though he looks badass.

Feth yeah.

**DarthSpader**

i wish GW would make tau look like that in general.... FW crisis suits = badass win.

@ walrus, added helbrecht and thwan to the entrants.... is aun'va a legitimite nomination, or a joke like old one eye? if you indeed would like to nominate him, ill add him to the entrants.
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39 now in the pool. might have to extend this to a double tourney. 4 "pools of 8 each. pool 1-2 fight it out as per standard playoffs, then 3-4 get it on. winner of the 1-2 fights winner of the 3-4 for the title....

do you guys want to go that route, or stick with the top 16? with possibly 40 entrants and counting, more then half of the entrants wont see the fight at this rate. its easy enough to change if people aggree to it.