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f2k wrote:


As a special mention, I would like to mention Battlefronts models. Yes, all of them! That company simply does not understand the how to design a kit so that it goes together easily. Point in case is the Panthers and King Tigers that I've recently assembled. Having to glue the skirts onto the side of the tanks is bad enough (but can be done with a few blobs of greenstuff carefully hidden behind the skirt) but gluing those front fenders on... Who on earth came up with the idea of have to glue a fairly meaty piece of metal to a resin hull, attached only by a razor-thin edge a few millimeters across? I've glued, re-glued, and then glued some more and I still hardly dare touch them. And unfortunately, in contrast with the skirts, there's no way of reinforcing the underside of the seam with greenstuff as that would be visible.

Leave the fenders off. Most German tanks lost these very quickly, primarily because the metal was so thin that it was easy to damage and the crew soon discarded the remains, rather than risk them damaging the tracks.

anything metal/finecast because it's difficult to work with and super fragile once its done.

Valkyries are a hard one to get put together

I don't like the way guard are all holding their guns, I'd rather they were like marines and you could pose the arms before putting the gun on, I find that much easier to line up.

Centurions. The top half looks fine but the legs dont look like theyre able to bend properly. Multiators and to a lesser extent obliterators look crap too.

That running Cadian legs piece in the infantry box is infuriating to keep glued at the worst of times.

Metal bone giant was a black hole of glue. Next I'd say the landraider kit. The top of the hull just doesn't seem to be the right size and is hard to get it glued with full contact. But by far my least favorite build is the TK skeleton warriors kit. Nothing like having a crucial torso/legs contact point the size of a pen tip.

 Opeth30 wrote:
Metal bone giant was a black hole of glue. Next I'd say the landraider kit. The top of the hull just doesn't seem to be the right size and is hard to get it glued with full contact. But by far my least favorite build is the TK skeleton warriors kit. Nothing like having a crucial torso/legs contact point the size of a pen tip.

You think the TK one is bad? The VC one is about half the size

Skinks from the Warhammer Fantasy range. Individually they're not a problem but together they are a nightmare. Ironically this is how they play in the game as well. The head and tail stick off over the edge of the little square base because they're backs are horizontal. Then they've got sticky off arms and javelins. I always run them as skirmishers because they're impossible to rank up in a tray.

Adding a second rank to an existing unit of 5 Cold One Knights is proving to be a major paint for me, their tails are just too long! If I had bought the two boxes together I could hve offset both ranks to either side to squeeze them in... Hindsight, and more money required.

40k wise I recall the following being a nightmare:

Thunderfire cannon without a vice and elasticbands
Power leads on tesla weapons for immortals
Ghost ark was just downright fiddly allround
SM bikes that never line up properly

Fantasy I've only done Bretts but the posing to get the knights to line up properly with lances and horse tails was majorly irritating, same with the bowmen. Oh and add a trebuchet with no instructions to the list as well.

Most annoying of late though has been the scale issues on some Malifaux models - giants and 4 year old children come to mind as the basis for some of the models.

Eldar Jetbikes. While I understand the frustration of the marine bikers, the Harley Davidson pose almost works for marines.

Seriously, the terrible monopose of the Eldar Guardian Jetbikes is the only reason I got Tau instead of starting Saim Hann. If that kit got updated, I would all but instantly drop $800+ to start them.

Most Malifaux minis before they started to re-do the sprue design were terrible. I'm currently building Ama No Zako and for her head alone, there are 6 separate pieces that have to be lined up!

Hands down the Terrorgheist. The damn hind legs don't pose right, and the right leg's slot thats *supposed* to ft for proper linign up never does. Oh, and the rocks end up crooked if you accidentally mess up a leg, which results in breaking the model. Honourable mention to the neck piece that doesn't fit properly and you have to shave it down until it works.
In short, it doesn't hold itself up, nothing goes together smoothly, and you have to use green stuff to fix all the little joints that just don't fit smoothly


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It almost had a well deserved flying lession

Thought of another one I must have buried in my mind due to the trauma; the plastic/metal SM devastators, particularly the Heavy Bolter, it simply wouldn't fit, in any way. I may have had a slight miscast, but I never found out, off to eBay it went.

 l000babyseals wrote:
Hands down the Terrorgheist. The damn hind legs don't pose right, and the right leg's slot thats *supposed* to ft for proper linign up never does. Oh, and the rocks end up crooked if you accidentally mess up a leg, which results in breaking the model. Honourable mention to the neck piece that doesn't fit properly and you have to shave it down until it works.
In short, it doesn't hold itself up, nothing goes together smoothly, and you have to use green stuff to fix all the little joints that just don't fit smoothly
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It almost had a well deserved flying lesson

Surprised to hear that about the Kit - I thought GW big plastic kits were getting better. I know I put together an Ogre Thundertusk and it was a joy to build.

BTW - all these posts are very funny, in an 'I can totally empathize with you!' kind of way.

My #1 worst kit is the Necron Monolith. I don't know how you mess up what is essentially a big plastic box but they did. I started by fitting he central internal pillar snugly into the base, and then the top snugly on to that - everything else went to hell in a warped, poorly aligned plastic handbasket.

The walls don't line up properly and at some point the connection switches from one wall glued 'on top' to being glued underneath the adjacent wall. All of the connections are just a mm thick slice of bendy plastic and when I finally got everything lined up and more-or less glued together, I realized that the central pillar was about half an inch too short and the top of the pyramid was sunk down inside. I awakened many slumbering star gods with my curses as I had to tear the entire thing apart, scrape off glue, prop up the central pillar and start all over again...

 redbristles wrote:
Thought of another one I must have buried in my mind due to the trauma; the plastic/metal SM devastators, particularly the Heavy Bolter, it simply wouldn't fit, in any way. I may have had a slight miscast, but I never found out, off to eBay it went.

Yup, those were bad. Having to line up and glue 3-4 parts simultaneously, or hope you got the angle right so everything clicked. The new plastic ones are nice though.

The old metal hurricane bolters for the Land raiders. You have to line up the shaft, fidly guns, and then not knock them back off when you put the "caps" on.

Plastic SM scouts, just for the guy with the Heavy Bolter.
Could not get both arms to fit on at the same time, only model i've ever given up on building.
Perseverance got me through building plastic/metal devastators, the scout lies half built in my bits box to this day, more than a year after i bought the kit.

 redbristles wrote:
Adding a second rank to an existing unit of 5 Cold One Knights is proving to be a major paint for me, their tails are just too long! If I had bought the two boxes together I could hve offset both ranks to either side to squeeze them in... Hindsight, and more money required.

I've just run into this problem today too lol. I have no Idea what to do. I might have to put a few on rocks in the back so the heads clear the tails.

Master Necrotech Mortenebra. The legs. Dear God the tiny, easy to knock off legs!

Followed very closely by the horns on the MKI Satyxis Raiders.

I actually like the models better than the updates, but my god they are a bitch to keep together.

 Opeth30 wrote:

 redbristles wrote:
Adding a second rank to an existing unit of 5 Cold One Knights is proving to be a major paint for me, their tails are just too long! If I had bought the two boxes together I could hve offset both ranks to either side to squeeze them in... Hindsight, and more money required.

I've just run into this problem today too lol. I have no Idea what to do. I might have to put a few on rocks in the back so the heads clear the tails.

Glad to hear it's not just me, although I do sympathise! That's an interesting idea with the rocks, the only thing I can think of doing so far is to basically re-base the originals so they can rank up with the new ones but I don't really want to do that as they're completely finished. Dilemma!

The first thing that comes to mind for me are the Ogre Kingdoms infantry kits.

Not only do you get the same two (very slightly different) bodies for the WHOLE army.

But the shoes! The tiny little ogre shoes that have a mold line running all the way around them and going between little rivets.

I used to get the worst hand cramps holding onto those tiny shoes will working to scrape that PITA mold line off. 2 per ogre x 33 ogres in my army (made from the plastic kits that is) = a lot of damn hand cramping.

Secondly - I love Super Dungeon Explore - but those are a pain to clean up properly. Soft plastic, a lot of easy to miss mold lines, prebuilt (the later kits) which makes some areas very difficult/impossible to get a knife in to clean them up.

Fortunately - each expansion seems to be slightly better than the last in terms of cleanup. Unfortunately - I think it'll take 3-4 more expansions to hit "good."

Domaru Butai with chain rifle. He may be my first infinity model that I have to pin, and I really don't want to. But for some reason he just hates me and my glue.

gunslingerpro wrote:Master Necrotech Mortenebra. The legs. Dear God the tiny, easy to knock off legs!

Followed very closely by the horns on the MKI Satyxis Raiders.

I actually like the models better than the updates, but my god they are a bitch to keep together.

I know someone at my club whom got Mortembra. He gave up on the legs in the end. She actually dosnt look to bad without them.

Nevelon wrote:

 redbristles wrote:
Thought of another one I must have buried in my mind due to the trauma; the plastic/metal SM devastators, particularly the Heavy Bolter, it simply wouldn't fit, in any way. I may have had a slight miscast, but I never found out, off to eBay it went.

Yup, those were bad. Having to line up and glue 3-4 parts simultaneously, or hope you got the angle right so everything clicked. The new plastic ones are nice though.

Please don't. I have an unassembled HB hybrid marine awaiting assembly

Any WarmaHordes metal infantry. WHY MAKE A METAL MODEL HAVE A TINY JOIN MID ARM! Its too small to mpin and the surfce area is so small glue doesnt really work.

I'm looking at you, Lord of the Feast!

Daughters of the Flame (Warmachine, Protectorate of Menoth)

I love those models, but the arms just won't stick to the bodies. I have to sit and hold them for several minutes and with my attention span that's not easy.

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Tomb King Skeleton Warriors... annoying to get off the sprue without damaging legs/heads/arms and even bodies, painfully annoying to put together

Back when I played Vampire Counts, there were many instances where a shin bone or arm snapped off the skeleton sprue.

On that note, how different are the VC skeleton and TK skeleton sprues? I really thought the only differences would be some adornments/heads . . .?

Convergence of Cyriss. Any of the plastic models; the mold lines on them are everywhere, and nasty! Also the medium infantry (which I love the looks of), but are in about 13 parts each...

Oh, and Clockwork Angels/Aurora. The wings are awesome looking, but on the Angels connect via what is basically a 2mmx1mm flat plate on the back. Aurora's wings are in 3 pieces, with each wing connecting to a small backpack thingy. The ~2mm brass rod I put into the backpack was almost the size of it... Not going to break anytime soon though.

DarkAge Skard Buzzblades. They come in three parts, the main body and the two lower arms. How are these chunky metal arms connected? By flat butt joints. If i have to re-glue these one more time.....

 Goremaul wrote:
Convergence of Cyriss. Any of the plastic models; the mold lines on them are everywhere, and nasty! Also the medium infantry (which I love the looks of), but are in about 13 parts each...

Oh, and Clockwork Angels/Aurora. The wings are awesome looking, but on the Angels connect via what is basically a 2mmx1mm flat plate on the back. Aurora's wings are in 3 pieces, with each wing connecting to a small backpack thingy. The ~2mm brass rod I put into the backpack was almost the size of it... Not going to break anytime soon though.

Thats a good heads up on the other minis I just recently got into Cyriss, and yeah, the light vector model I got had some horrible mold lines. As I said earlier in the thread (or maybe it was another GW bashing thread), the problem isn't the SIZE of the mold lines I had, it was WHERE they were. On the light vector I got, one mold line was literally in the center of the eye.

the slannesh daemon chariots

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