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2014/02/19 04:13:54
Subject: Re:Ukraine: Witness the making of a dictatorship, live!
Hasn't he replaced him? Couldn't he be putting someone in the position that's more friendly to the government position in preparation for bringing in the army?
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2014/02/19 21:09:40
Subject: Re:Ukraine: Witness the making of a dictatorship, live!
26 people killed yesterday. The riot police, according to the BBC, have taken a marked more violent reaction to the protests after a number of their own have been killed. I'm just surprised that with the level of violence involved right now the protesters haven't taken up arms yet (barring that the Russian government's recent statement over the matter said that this was all evil terrorists trying to bring down the lawful government). The military's on standby, let' see how much further this can go downhill. I suppose that at least its a statement for the other former Soviet satellite states about their own standing with the Russian Federation. But the Georgians probably felt the same when they were having their spat with their benevolent comrades to the north.
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2014/02/20 06:33:43
Subject: Ukraine: Witness the making of a dictatorship, live!
I notice the riot police in Whembley's photo are not wearing uniforms. Is this because the Ukrainian State can't afford nice uniforms or because they are hiring any misanthrope willing to swing a stick in the streets?
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2014/02/20 06:40:54
Subject: Ukraine: Witness the making of a dictatorship, live!
feeder wrote: I notice the riot police in Whembley's photo are not wearing uniforms. Is this because the Ukrainian State can't afford nice uniforms or because they are hiring any misanthrope willing to swing a stick in the streets?
Are you talking about the photo at the top of the page? They look like uniforms to me.
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They certainly aren't wearing street clothes.
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Weltenwolf wrote: This is really featured in german news? I only see one of the Klitschkos every second day, but not much more. Which channel should I try to get more?
Haha exactly. But yeah since the last two days it goes over the radio and TV alot and caught my attention. I think statements were given by some german politicans too. The dictator is defenetly ruining the relationships to other european countries. It's good that the people don't give up.
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2014/02/20 16:12:20
Subject: Re:Ukraine: Witness the making of a dictatorship, live!
Well there has been an interesting twist to the Ukraine riots, some of the police officers have been captured by the rioters. At :21 seconds you can see police officers being escorted through the protesters camp. The official report from the Ukrainian government is 67 Police have been captured but the actual number is yet to be determined.
Commissar-Danno wrote: Well there has been an interesting twist to the Ukraine riots, some of the police officers have been captured by the rioters. At :21 seconds you can see police officers being escorted through the protesters camp. The official report from the Ukrainian government is 67 Police have been captured but the actual number is yet to be determined.
Right at the end there is a shot of a security forces sniper. I think at this stage an open civil war isn't very far away.
Its interseting how all the protestors seem to have riot sheilds.
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The prefect example of someone missing the point.
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Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
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2014/02/20 19:49:58
Subject: Ukraine: Witness the making of a dictatorship, live!
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2014/02/20 20:08:26
Subject: Re:Ukraine: Witness the making of a dictatorship, live!
Right at the end there is a shot of a security forces sniper. I think at this stage an open civil war isn't very far away.
Its interseting how all the protestors seem to have riot sheilds.
There from the captured police officers, picked up from surplus or from when the police ran back and left them there. There is also a rumor (I've seen from News/Fox but can't confirm here) that armories have been raided and at least 1,500 guns (not including other supplies) have been taken by the protestors.
2014/02/20 20:27:24
Subject: Re:Ukraine: Witness the making of a dictatorship, live!
Right at the end there is a shot of a security forces sniper. I think at this stage an open civil war isn't very far away.
Its interseting how all the protestors seem to have riot sheilds.
I agree (re: civil war), it seems the country as a whole seems to have a strong east/west divide with a conveniently located river (Dnieper) basically splitting it down the middle. Kiev it seems is literally smack-dab in the center of that divide.
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2014/02/20 20:36:23
Subject: Re:Ukraine: Witness the making of a dictatorship, live!
In a statement, they said targeted sanctions including asset freezes and visa bans would be introduced "as a matter of urgency".
At least 21 anti-government protesters died in clashes in Kiev on Thursday.
Officials said that one policeman had also died and that 67 police had been captured by protesters.
"No circumstances can justify the repression we are currently witnessing," the statement from EU foreign ministers said.
EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton said the "prime responsibility" to get talks between the two sides under way lay with President Viktor Yanukovych.
Speaking after an emergency meeting of EU foreign minsters in Brussels, she said ministers had expressed their "dismay" at the latest violence and had agreed to "suspend export licences for equipment for internal repression".
Implementation of the measures "will be taken forward in light of developments in Ukraine", she added.
The EU has until now refrained from imposing sanctions on Ukraine, preferring to emphasise dialogue and compromise.
The US state department had already announced visa bans on 20 members of the Ukrainian government but has not provided any names.
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2014/02/20 20:39:58
Subject: Ukraine: Witness the making of a dictatorship, live!
It seems there is a possibility that the Crimea region might split from the rest of Ukraine entirely, as they are strongly pro-Russian (and also autonomous as I understand it). Also really odd to see that the protesters are in affect an alliance of Ukrainian ultra-nationalist and pro-Western EU supporters, but I suppose war makes for strange bedfellows. I guess the desire of the Ukrainian nationalists to sever ties with Russia overrides the fear of reduced sovereignty or what-have-you should they join the EU.
Seems the general thought is that the Western part of the country wants nothing to do with the current government, and western citizens are flooding into Kiev to bolster the protesters. Also seems like police (and possibly military?) forces in the western part of the country are willing to go along with the split as well. Also it seems the head of Ukraines Army was fired under mysterious circumstances.
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2014/02/20 21:08:48
Subject: Ukraine: Witness the making of a dictatorship, live!
I don't know how awe inspiring the threat of U.S. sanctions is, given we have next to no trade with the Ukraine and how little regional influence we have anymore.
2014/02/20 21:14:46
Subject: Ukraine: Witness the making of a dictatorship, live!
Well, its a good thing that the EU is imposing sanctions, and they happen to not only have a lot of trade with Ukraine, but also a lot of influence (you know, considering a big chunk of the protesters are protesting over the current governments anti-EU policies).
CoALabaer wrote: Wargamers hate two things: the state of the game and change.
2014/02/20 21:18:53
Subject: Ukraine: Witness the making of a dictatorship, live!
Breotan wrote: I don't know how awe inspiring the threat of U.S. sanctions is, given we have next to no trade with the Ukraine and how little regional influence we have anymore.
The US has only restricted travel at this point IIRC. The EU however has done committed to sanctions.
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