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2017/12/03 17:50:41
Subject: Re:Blazing news for Warhammerfest. NEW EDITION OF WHRP CONFIRMED! AOSRP 1st ED incoming too!
I wonder where they'll start? Hammerhal is already a mini-rpg so would be easy but there's a great amount of options between the realms of life and fire with so much going on in the lore between them from expanding claims into the unknown to the rebuilding of lost kingdoms.
With Malign Portents they could go to the Death realm to and see the events of Nagash rebuilding his realm and pushing forward to retake his "properties".
I can't wait!
2017/12/03 19:41:48
Subject: Blazing news for Warhammerfest. NEW EDITION OF WHRP CONFIRMED! AOSRP 1st ED incoming too!
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We’re delighted to be able to bring the much loved First Edition of WFRP to PDF!
We’ve painstakingly scanned every page, and created a PDF that maintains the appearance of the original. This does make for a slightly larger file than we’d normally produce, but on this occasion, we think it’s worth it for all the great First Edition feel! The PDF is also extensively bookmarked for ease of reference.
We released a version earlier in the year via Humble Bundle that did not have the colour plates of the Games Workshop edition, but this new PDF does have all those glorious colour plates we know so well.
Stay tuned because we'll be bringing more WFRP First Edition titles to PDF in the coming weeks, including the seminal The Enemy Within Campaign.
video included for completeness..... not quite sure what the point is there but hey-ho.
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We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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2017/12/08 23:08:11
Subject: Re:Blazing news for Warhammerfest. NEW EDITION OF WHRP CONFIRMED! AOSRP 1st ED incoming too!
I like his description "the mother of all creation myths" since it's going past Tolkien and to the very source of fantasy.
I think your right on release estimate. I was hoping with Wfrp pushed back that AoS would get released sooner but oh well. Just means more quality they'll put in.
2017/12/09 10:06:35
Subject: Blazing news for Warhammerfest. NEW EDITION OF WHRP CONFIRMED! AOSRP 1st ED incoming too!
AoS was "created with a more narrative-driven focus from the beginning". Unlike Warhammer. ROFL.
I mean I get it, marketing 101, when you need to sell the new thing, tear down the old thing its replacing, but usually you try and keep your claims vaguely plausible.
EDIT: And before anyone blows a gasket, I am not claiming that AoS is a bad narrative game, or that you're wrong for liking it, or whatever. I just find the idea that AoS was designed with some heightened narrative focus compared to WHF, somehow ascendant above the normal mix of desire to craft an interesting setting/narrative and commercial & other motivations that are at play in the creation of a new fantasy IP, well, laughable. I mean I know people who really like AoS a lot who call it "Age of Trademarks"
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2017/12/09 10:12:08
Subject: Blazing news for Warhammerfest. NEW EDITION OF WHRP CONFIRMED! AOSRP 1st ED incoming too!
Yodhrin wrote: AoS was "created with a more narrative-driven focus from the beginning". Unlike Warhammer. ROFL.
I mean I get it, marketing 101, when you need to sell the new thing, tear down the old thing its replacing, but usually you try and keep your claims vaguely plausible.
EDIT: And before anyone blows a gasket, I am not claiming that AoS is a bad narrative game, or that you're wrong for liking it, or whatever. I just find the idea that AoS was designed with some heightened narrative focus compared to WHF, somehow ascendant above the normal mix of desire to craft an interesting setting/narrative and commercial & other motivations that are at play in the creation of a new fantasy IP, well, laughable. I mean I know people who really like AoS a lot who call it "Age of Trademarks"
I know many people has forgotten that, but the sole reason of warhammer fantasy to exist was to create a world to sell all the historical miniatures citadel was doing. That why at the beginning, araby, norsca, etc... Had much more relevance and the world was so copypaste from our world.
I know that with the years it grow much bigger, and we all loved it for ir, but even wirh all the shabby bussines reasons behind AoS birth, it has a "stronger" narrative from the beggining. Because warhammer fantasy had none.
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
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2017/12/09 12:27:13
Subject: Blazing news for Warhammerfest. NEW EDITION OF WHRP CONFIRMED! AOSRP 1st ED incoming too!
Indeed. It also catered to the DnD collections and used Lord of the Rings as a easy backdrop thus why the first editions had halflings, Men of the West, Men of the East, etc.
2017/12/09 13:56:19
Subject: Blazing news for Warhammerfest. NEW EDITION OF WHRP CONFIRMED! AOSRP 1st ED incoming too!
So, in other words, it created a world that was, at the time, not very fleshed out, in order to increase sales of existing model lines as well as to provide an excuse to create new model lines, and its background was fleshed out over time.
So, exactly the same as Age of Sigmar, except without the trademark paranoia.
The only difference between the two in this context is the method they've chosen to do the fleshing out - expanding and deepening a setting as opposed to producing an ongoing storyline. The idea that growing a "historical" setting is somehow lesser than picking an arbitrary point and commencing a neverending storyline from there is just daft.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal
2017/12/09 15:20:46
Subject: Blazing news for Warhammerfest. NEW EDITION OF WHRP CONFIRMED! AOSRP 1st ED incoming too!
I think that's the point, Yodhrin. People have been complaining about a lack of clarity in AoS' narrative, and they're pointing out it was the same with WHF. Given time, the Mortal Realms will but just as lore-rich.
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2017/12/09 15:31:19
Subject: Blazing news for Warhammerfest. NEW EDITION OF WHRP CONFIRMED! AOSRP 1st ED incoming too!
It's impossible in practice to create a setting and have it fully fleshed out at the same time in a way that rivals the 20 years of development WHF had.
People making the claim that WHF was better than AOS for this reason often failed to realize this, along with the irony of WHF's start.
But I always just ignored them, as it wasn't worth listening to.
I'm very excited to have the first AoSRPG book. I only hope the quality is comparable to other industry standards, and that thetes lots of lore, with bestiarys that have models released by GW, and campaign packs, and....
Well, I think we'll get some goodstuff regardless.
2017/12/09 15:45:37
Subject: Blazing news for Warhammerfest. NEW EDITION OF WHRP CONFIRMED! AOSRP 1st ED incoming too!
Yodhrin wrote: So, in other words, it created a world that was, at the time, not very fleshed out, in order to increase sales of existing model lines as well as to provide an excuse to create new model lines, and its background was fleshed out over time.
So, exactly the same as Age of Sigmar, except without the trademark paranoia.
The only difference between the two in this context is the method they've chosen to do the fleshing out - expanding and deepening a setting as opposed to producing an ongoing storyline. The idea that growing a "historical" setting is somehow lesser than picking an arbitrary point and commencing a neverending storyline from there is just daft.
I know, weird, isn't it? It's super easy to be a scathing critic if you aren't old enough to recognise the irony in the fact that originally, the old game was exactly the same in lacking a strong background, and that yes, 20 or more years of fiction writing makes a helluva difference, lol.
Not that I don't realize that AoS has its myriad flaws, of course, but so did Rogue Trader and the beginning of 40k (anyone remember moving vehicles in pre-2nd edition, with differing turning radius arcs?)
My only worry is the implication that both setting will use different rules? That's a real pain in the butt. Though I am wondering what kind of a mind trip it'll be roleplaying in the AoS realms. I'm hoping it gives the chance that a lot of RPGs don't, which is to game in a setting's actual world-building era, rather than the usual, which is adventuring amongst all the crumbling remnants from that sort of era.
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2017/12/12 15:41:43
Subject: Re:Blazing news for Warhammerfest. NEW EDITION OF WHRP CONFIRMED! AOSRP 1st ED incoming too!
The Enemy Within Campaign Volume 1 - Shadows Over Bogenhäfen is out now in PDF for the very first time !
http://www.drivethrurpg.com/…/Warhammer-Fantasy-Roleplay-Fi… About the The Enemy Within Campaign Volume 1
“And at the appointed time we shall rise from our secret places and throw down the towns ans cities of the Empire. Our brethren shall pour forth from the forests to slay and burn. Chaos will cover the land and we, the chosen servants, shall be exalted in His eyes. Hail to Tzeench, Changer of the Ways – Njawrr’thakh ‘Lzimbarr Tzeentch!”
Excerpt from The Book of Transmutation
The Empire. Perhaps the greatest nation of the Old World, it has stood for two and a half millenia as a bulwark against the threat of Chaos. Down the ages – from the time of legen when Sigmar Heldenhammer ruled, to the peaceful days it now enjoys – the Empire has endured. Within its borders, the Emperor’s armies keep the peace. The Empire stands firm against the enemy without.
But what of The Enemy Within?
The Enemy Within: Shadows Over Bögenhafen is the first volume in an epic campaign for Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay. It is the definitive guide to the mighty Empire of the War hammer Old World, full of background information covering the history, geography, politics and religions of the Empire, as well as invaluable material on starting and running the campaign.
And you can begin straight away with an intriguing and chilling adventure which introduces the players to the Empire, sets them on a hunt to seek out and destroy the heart of a demonic conspiracy, and brings them face to face with the corruption threatening the very foundations of their world.
This PDF combines material originally published separately as The Enemy Within and Shadows Over Bögenhafen, revised into a clear, easy to use format, as published in print in 1995 by Hogshead Publishing. We’ve painstakingly scanned every page, and created a PDF that maintains the appearance of the original. This does make for a slightly larger file than we’d normally produce, but on this occasion, we think it’s worth it for all the great First Edition feel! The PDF is also extensively bookmarked for ease of reference.
We'll be bringing the entirety of The Enemy Within Campaign to PDF in the coming weeks.
Grab Part One, Shadows Over Bögenhafen at DrivethruRPG now!
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2017/12/20 12:04:32
Subject: Re:Blazing news for Warhammerfest. NEW EDITION OF WHRP CONFIRMED! AOSRP 1st ED incoming too!
“The time shall come when the enemies of Chaos shall relax their guard and pay no heed to the shadows at their backs. Then shall the Great Mutator cause the warped moon to awaken, and the beloved of Mórr shall spit upon the lands of The Empire. Where his spittle doth land, there shall the weak fear to tread, but the possessor of the spittle shall wield great power”
Extract from Omens and Prophecies of the Seer Unserfrau
The mighty river Reik: the longest waterway in the whole of the Old World, stretching almost a thousand miles from its source in the Black Mountains to the sea at Marienburg. The Reik and its tributaries are the arteries of The Empire, flowing through the dark forest to link its great cities.
As the river flows untroubled to the sea, strange things are moving on its forested banks; and somewhere along its upper reaches a great evil festers and grows. It has lain dormant for over a century, but now a prophecy is fulfilled and an unimaginable horror has awoken in the hear of Sigmar’s Realm. And the horror is spreading.
The rot must be cut out before it is too late – but first it must be found…
Death on the Reik can be played as a stand-alone adventure, or as a part of the Enemy Within campaign for Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay, continuing from Shadows over Bögenhafen.
A seemingly simple man-hunt turns out to be far more complex and dangerous, and adventurers will be pitted against mutants, Skaven, and desperate cultists before they discover the truth – and a climax which will plunge them into the midst of Chaos.
As well as an extended campaign adventure with 20 pages of maps and player handouts Death on the Reik features an appendix on the rivers of the Empire.
New rules for river navigation and trading are included, plus full details on the river boats of the Reik and the people who use them. There are extensive outlines of possible hazards, incidents and encounters, plus a fully developed, ready to play scenario, ‘The Maria Borger’.
This PDF reissues the Hogshead Publishing Edition of Death on the Reik book. We’ve painstakingly scanned every page, and created a PDF that maintains the appearance of the original. This does make for a slightly larger file than we’d normally produce, but on this occasion, we think it’s worth it for all the great First Edition feel! The PDF is also extensively bookmarked for ease of reference.
Get it now here!
I do, still, love that cover.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2018/04/01 12:48:24
Subject: Re:Blazing news for Warhammerfest. NEW EDITION OF WHRP CONFIRMED! AOSRP 1st ED incoming too!
The launch date for Cubicle 7's WFRP 4E has been revealed -- the game is being released at the UK Games Expo in Birmingham, 1st-3rd June. Check out the video below at the 19-minute mark.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2018/04/03 14:02:01
Subject: Blazing news for Warhammerfest. NEW EDITION OF WHRP CONFIRMED! AOSRP 1st ED incoming too!
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,