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Khorne cares not from whence the blood flows. Only that it does. I actually don't like the absolute restriction on psykers that people place on Khorne, and I don't think that's fluffy at all.

 Melissia wrote:
Khorne cares not from whence the blood flows. Only that it does. I actually don't like the absolute restriction on psykers that people place on Khorne, and I don't think that's fluffy at all.

Well is pretty fluffy, Khorne hates psykers and magic. Is like... one of the oldest and unique inamovible parts of the 40k lore.

Is blood magic already a thing in WHFB? I forgot already.
Vampire Counts use necromancy, not blood magic.
Ogres use butcher magic.
Dark Elves use Black Magic, iirc.
I can't think of anyone who uses just blood magic.

The reason why khorne hates psykers/mages is because he's also the god of martial honor, and using magic goes against that.
I don't see why that would stop him from using buffs though. If you think about it, buffing oneself with magic to fight better in melee is not really any different to becoming a demon prince and fighting in melee.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Is blood magic already a thing in WHFB? I forgot already.
Vampire Counts use necromancy, not blood magic.
Ogres use butcher magic.
Dark Elves use Black Magic, iirc.
I can't think of anyone who uses just blood magic.

The reason why khorne hates psykers/mages is because he's also the god of martial honor, and using magic goes against that.
I don't see why that would stop him from using buffs though. If you think about it, buffing oneself with magic to fight better in melee is not really any different to becoming a demon prince and fighting in melee.

Thats basically what Khorne priest do. They spill blood and pray for Khorne help, using typical "blood magic" and buffing their own allies with frenzied bloodlust, etc... and they can dispell enemy magic praying to Khorne.

 Galas wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
Khorne cares not from whence the blood flows. Only that it does. I actually don't like the absolute restriction on psykers that people place on Khorne, and I don't think that's fluffy at all.

Well is pretty fluffy, Khorne hates psykers and magic. Is like... one of the oldest and unique inamovible parts of the 40k lore.

Khorne hates pretentious and tricksy psykers. He has no qualms with melee majiks. He even grants enchanted swords. If you're only using magic to boost your personal combat potential, he's more okay with it. Just don't be a book-hugging coward about it.

Yeah exactly. He hates Tzeentch's trickery. But if you're just gonna buff up yourself and some 'zerks and make them kill everyone faster, he's okay with that.

Let the blood flow.

There aren't any restrictions against being buffed. The only restriction is that models with the mark of Khorne cannot *be* psykers.

I figure that Tzeentch would gleefully buff a squad of zerks, just on the off chance that Khorne got mad at them later. It's probably part of some plan or another.

Thats what I was saying when I talk about priest.

The result is similar but it is not the same process. Psykers manipulate the energies of the warp being psykers. A Khorne Priest could call of Khorne to bless his followers with his Chaos God powers making them faster, stronger and better.

Being a Chaos God, Khorne has his own "magic". He can mutate and gift people, he can make magical weapons and armors, etc... but he hates actual and pragmatical magic that people can do at his will manipulating the warp.
Thats why a Priest that uses the blessings of Khorne to hurt his enemies or make his allies more killy is totally fluffly. The power isn't of his own, is 100% from Khorne, instead of taking him at will from the Warp. (So basically, a Wizard vs a D&D cleric)

Plus, you can give him bonuses for every enemy hero killed because Khorne is more willing to bless him

This edition so far seems to have some echos of 8th edition fantasy, when suddenly everyone felt they had to include enormous hordes of troops to be competitive. This had a simultaneous affect of making people not want to play the game because the start up cost was too high.

Am I off base to be worried about this? I quite like 8th's rules otherwise. Even one of my co-workers is feeling inspired to dig up his old chaos marines out of storage.

 argonak wrote:
This edition so far seems to have some echos of 8th edition fantasy, when suddenly everyone felt they had to include enormous hordes of troops to be competitive. This had a simultaneous affect of making people not want to play the game because the start up cost was too high.

Am I off base to be worried about this? I quite like 8th's rules otherwise. Even one of my co-workers is feeling inspired to dig up his old chaos marines out of storage.

I'd say you're partially right. 8th edition Infantry meta is one of extremes. Some armies can do massive horses really well, while others can do lots of MSU really well.