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Heya, first time poster, long time lurker. I typically collect screenshots of any and all rumors I deem credible, or at least remember them so I can piece them together later. In terms of xenos, I looked back and found some things Atia, Hastings, and others have said from what I remember, and seems like they fit in this thread of collected rumors about a new race, since there seems to be few actual rumors lol. First, Atia had said a year ago that Exodites may be coming in two years, which would be next year.


Same thread she said there could be multiple races coming, if you notice, we actually did get a few of these.


I notice some people speaking about Rak'Gol, well, there has been a little bit of chatter from that too. Note that this one is just me asking someone on War of Sigmar lol.


I don't believe we'll be seeing Hrud anytime soon, as it looks like Forgeworld attempted them but stopped for one reason or another. This is another quote from Atia.


As for other xenos, Hastings has always been cryptic, but I feel a few of these things may be in reference to new xenos. This first one was in response to the rumor engine post of what seems to be a wheel.


This one is when we first found out about the objective tokens, and in reference to the Genestealer in the tank. He could just be saying T'au as an off the cuff comment, so I wouldn't look too much into it.


Then, finally, there's colllected rumors about an upcoming boxed set from both Hastings and Bell of Lost Souls, which may include a new xenos faction if you piece the ideas together. Since it seems Hastings is suggesting that there is plastic sisters incoming, and the boxed set supposedly had Sisters and a new race. He also refers to whatever he is implying as "redacted" in both cases. The second one talking about SWA was in reference to Shadespire in what was similar to Frostgrave. For the Bell of Lost Souls rumor, it comes from this article: http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2016/11/40k-rumors-sisters-of-battle-8th-ed.html


That's all I got for what I've seen in terms of new xenos factions. Then of course there's the recent article from GW on minor xenos.

FFjump your fantastic.

I have a post from Atia (in memory) but it would only take me an hour to find her posts that say the Tau will be getting an AoS style mini-army release. The models would be for the Tau Empire but not directly part of it to paraphrase her response. Now I personally think it's auxiliary but some folks have put forth the theory its Farsight Enclaves.

Holy jeez there is an actual real chance it could be auxiliaries. It's not solid evidence, but it helps paint a picture. I wonder if it will be Demiurg then as there has been lots of chatter about them since their appearance in the BFGA video game.

 Gamgee wrote:
FFjump your fantastic.

I have a post from Atia (in memory) but it would only take me an hour to find her posts that say the Tau will be getting an AoS style mini-army release. The models would be for the Tau Empire but not directly part of it to paraphrase her response. Now I personally think it's auxiliary but some folks have put forth the theory its Farsight Enclaves.

Holy jeez there is an actual real chance it could be auxiliaries. It's not solid evidence, but it helps paint a picture. I wonder if it will be Demiurg then as there has been lots of chatter about them since their appearance in the BFGA video game.

Yes, I remember too. Looking back I found this:



Hastings remark about Tau allies being neat may have been more rumor than remark. Now, I have two things I want to say. If the skull on Index Xenos I, which is also in that xenos gallery from the 5th edition rulebook, is indeed a clue, there is an important question to ask. Does that skull match any known xenos allied with the Tau? It might be an existing species allied with the Tau we don't have an image for. And I would put forward another notion. That Fourth Sphere of Tau that were lost. Is it possible they encountered some other race while they were lost? Perhaps a Chaos-infused race, in the edition in which Chaos is supposed to be prominent? That, or, is there anyway that skull could be a Tau mutated by the powers of Chaos? I doubt the Chaos Tau because, again, that skull has been around since at least 5th Edition, BUT a Chaos-infused xenos race could be possible. There is something else I wanted to point out regarding the Rak'Gol, who are a Chaos-based xenos race, by the way.

Do you remember this image from the rumor engine?



Does this in anyway resemble a Rak'Gol? Or at least, share design elements with one? http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Rak%27Gol

FF Jump, thank you very much for collecting all these posts into one!

I'd say this teaser resembles Rak Gol, but not too much, judging by the the image of RakGol I just saw on lexicanum.
The teased part might be a shoulder pad or a knee pad.. The armor in the picture also have some studs in it, as well curved shapes, but not as angular, as shown here.
Damn, Rak Gol would be hella cool! That must be their skull, right, right???
Demiurg - would not be cool at alll. 40k doesn't need ewoks with guns... Just like it doesn't need ewoks with power armor and trikes(I'm looking at you squats, stay eaten)
We already have 3 types of stunties in AoS, 2 of them being pretty recent releases.. So 3d flavor of dwarf from GW in 2-3 years would suck. Plus this weel- it must be a new war buggy... Please!

Rak'Gol would be cool, especially if they keep their lore very sparse and secretive.
But they seem to only have 2 eyes, and no mandibles. So I'm not sure it fits the skull, unless there's a redesign.

Whatever it is, it's not going to come in a box with sisters. Space marines, sure, but sisters? That's just unrealistic

The only known alien skull of the Tau aux it resembles is Vespid. Nothing else is even close, but as others have pointed out it would have to be a vespid mutation/offshoot/or redesign for that to be true. Honestly I would be down for just about any Xenos except a chaos xenos. However ultimately even if it is a chaos xenos and looks cool enough I would consider grabbing it. Feels so good to finally be getting some xenos diversity.

As for Demirg they are definitely not hairy all over. They have some of the dwarf traits we all know and love but GW was really trying to avoid the classic dwarf look with them but take inspiration more from dwarf mining culture. Or so the impression I get.

Honestly I think we'll have to wait for new hints on the xenos identity. If they are coming next year it's ages away so I doubt they would have hinted them so much to give them away.

Also there is no reason they can't do a new race and Tau aux wave in the same year. Especially if rumours indicate next year is the "year of the xenos".

Also I suspect Deathwatch will get a release next year with new primaris stuff because it is very thematic for the year and no way can the Primaris marines use their existing flyer. However this may be my personal want and not what GW does.

Whilst I'd like nothing more than Rak'Gol, I doubt it will be.

Thanks FFJump for collecting these quotes.

123ply wrote:
Whatever it is, it's not going to come in a box with sisters. Space marines, sure, but sisters? That's just unrealistic

Female Space Sigmarines confirmed?

The more I think about it, the more Demiurge, or squats, seem to be the leading candidate.

GW likes to reuse a lot of their CAD files when they do models. Many models are simply slight variations or sculpt-overs of existing miniatures. I understand why, it's a cost cutting trick.

GW also know the Karkardaron Overlords were a huge success for AoS. People were stating that their body armor looked a little too high-tech. Maybe that is because it simply makes it easier for GW to digitally sculpt over it later for a 40k release.

My first thought when seeing the Kharadron was that they were finally releasing Squats.

Guys I think maybe you need to stop limiting the designs based on old art and fan art. GW will probably redesign whatever it is IF it is a thing so they can trade mark the crap out of it.

 FFJump wrote:
I notice some people speaking about Rak'Gol, well, there has been a little bit of chatter from that too. Note that this one is just me asking someone on War of Sigmar lol.

Spoiler:

I hope that's just general internet [MOD EDIT - Language! - Alpharius]. Nothing would be worse than Nids running from glorified cockroaches.

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 FFJump wrote:
I notice some people speaking about Rak'Gol, well, there has been a little bit of chatter from that too. Note that this one is just me asking someone on War of Sigmar lol.

Spoiler:

I hope that's just general internet [MOD EDIT - Language! - Alpharius]. Nothing would be worse than Nids running from glorified cockroaches.

I am at a bit of a loss here as well. What I have been able to find about the Rak'gol they seem rather basic. So, unless they really plan on bumping them up on the power scale, I just don't them being Nid threats.

 ProtoClone wrote:

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 FFJump wrote:
I notice some people speaking about Rak'Gol, well, there has been a little bit of chatter from that too. Note that this one is just me asking someone on War of Sigmar lol.

Spoiler:

I hope that's just general internet [MOD EDIT - Language! - Alpharius]. Nothing would be worse than Nids running from glorified cockroaches.

I am at a bit of a loss here as well. What I have been able to find about the Rak'gol they seem rather basic. So, unless they really plan on bumping them up on the power scale, I just don't them being Nid threats.

I don't know much about these aliens but what if they were a form of primal nid? That might make them something for the nids to fear.

Dudeface wrote:

 ProtoClone wrote:

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 FFJump wrote:
I notice some people speaking about Rak'Gol, well, there has been a little bit of chatter from that too. Note that this one is just me asking someone on War of Sigmar lol.

Spoiler:

I hope that's just general internet [MOD EDIT - Language! - Alpharius]. Nothing would be worse than Nids running from glorified cockroaches.

I am at a bit of a loss here as well. What I have been able to find about the Rak'gol they seem rather basic. So, unless they really plan on bumping them up on the power scale, I just don't them being Nid threats.

I don't know much about these aliens but what if they were a form of primal nid? That might make them something for the nids to fear.

I really hope not. That would be very anti-climactic in my opinion.

We already have 'Nids. I would hate to see another bug race.

Good to see Hasting is back on the wagon. Maybe we'll start to see real leaks again.

 draugadan wrote:
We already have 'Nids. I would hate to see another bug race.

Infinitely better, than another humanoid race...



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Daedalus81 wrote:
Good to see Hasting is back on the wagon. Maybe we'll start to see real leaks again.

Well in his absence Lady Atia and SadPanda filled in quite nicely.
Although, SadPanda has vanished :(

SnotlingPimpWagon wrote:

 draugadan wrote:
We already have 'Nids. I would hate to see another bug race.

Infinitely better, than another humanoid race...



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Daedalus81 wrote:
Good to see Hasting is back on the wagon. Maybe we'll start to see real leaks again.

Well in his absence Lady Atia and SadPanda filled in quite nicely.
Although, SadPanda has vanished :(

Obviously to each their own, but to me Tau are nothing like Eldar, or Space Marines. To me Bugs are bugs. The Rak'gol don't seem to offer anything compellingly new. On a side note how has this thread gone this long? It is all conjecture and wish listing, it doesn't seem to have any actual news. Shouldn't this be in General Discussions?

It's been fairly civil for the most part, so probably hasn't drawn much mod attention.

 EnTyme wrote:
It's been fairly civil for the most part, so probably hasn't drawn much mod attention.

Fair enough I guess.

For what it is worth, I'd love to see Hrud. Specifically the rat tailed version not the walking rot ones.

May be of interest for those folks hoping for Rak'gol

Rak'Gol hypothesis based on FF Games

Neronoxx wrote:

Voss wrote:
Hrm. Next time, a more appropriate thread title would be nice. 'Searching for rumours on new aliens' or something like that. A reuse of one (of twenty something) small pieces of alien art from two editions ago isn't exactly compelling.

Especially when it shares a page with ambulls, zoats and hrud.

No, I think there's some merit to this idea.
The skull on Xenos 1 is definitely important, as it matches none if the races represented within the book (correct me if I'm wrong, but fairly positive here.) Yet they used this anyways.
Why? It's deliberate misrepresentation. An eldar helm or necron symbol would have worked fine.
But instead they use this skull. Add to this that the lead developer, Pete Foley, specifically stated he'd like to work on a new faction for 40k, Lady Atia's rumor and things start to make sense.
That said, I hope its the Rak'gol or whatever they're called. Super cool race.

Specifically the ancient races are in XENOS 1, except the ancient ones themselves....

Even if the Rak'gol were an insectoid race, most insects are happy to wage genocidal campaigns against each other.



These guys look lizardlike to me, although they do have lots of limbs. They also apparently use manufactured technology, instead of organic bioweapons.

The only overlap I'm see with Tyranids is that both have more than 2 legs.

I'd be happy with any new playable 40K really. Space Skaven, Space Dwarves, Rak'gol, sentient Crystals animating suits of armor.

Heck, I'd even take a race of Technologically advanced humans that were not aligned with the Imperium or Chaos

Having just read up on the Rak'Gol, I have to say they wouldn't make a bad addition to the game. Basically a 40k ogre kingdoms feeling.

Two words:

Iron. Men.

 Galas wrote:
Two words:

Iron. Men.

Wooden Ships?

I actually think the idea of unaffiliated humans would be a nice addition too (though of course Xeno would be preferable to this). Something like the Interex would be neat

The Rak'Ghul look absolutely amazing, seeing them on the tabletop would be spectacular. Imagine a 25mm scale creature like that- long like a hormagaunt but taller than a human, sporting cybernetic weapon implants and a toothy maw.

Might be enough to get me back into the game

I'd be interested in the Rak'Gol is they were big multi-limbed cybertnetically enhanced reptilian looking things like that art.

A low count high cost army of larger models fits me to a T.

Plus with a little ingenuity and elbow grease they'd make some fine dragon ogres...