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2017/12/16 20:47:34
Subject: Re:First Expansions for Star Wars Legions
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Beautiful and Deadly Keeper of Secrets
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Likely enough given that they introduced First Order and Resistance ships into X-Wing.
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2017/12/16 21:33:35
Subject: First Expansions for Star Wars Legions
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Krazed Killa Kan
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Also, the RPG recently got a Beginner's Box for Force Awakens, so they'll do more with it. When FFG makes stuff for one thing, they like to reuse all of it for other things of that property.
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2017/12/16 23:46:24
Subject: First Expansions for Star Wars Legions
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Regular Dakkanaut
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So FFG is trying to get SWL out by mid feb. I guess we will see.
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2017/12/17 00:10:11
Subject: Re:First Expansions for Star Wars Legions
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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If this does even a little bit well, I've no doubt you'll eventually be able to play in all three movie eras and hell, maybe even Knights of the Old Republic or Tales of the Jedi times if it keeps selling well even after they've done all of those main ones.
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I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
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2017/12/17 00:15:06
Subject: Re:First Expansions for Star Wars Legions
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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2017/12/17 10:04:20
Subject: Re:First Expansions for Star Wars Legions
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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Yodhrin wrote:
If this does even a little bit well, I've no doubt you'll eventually be able to play in all three movie eras and hell, maybe even Knights of the Old Republic or Tales of the Jedi times if it keeps selling well even after they've done all of those main ones.
KOTOR and TotJ are from the old EU. So don't hold your breath. At least not until Disney takes any of it back for Legends, which has been doing for other stuff like Thrawn.
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2017/12/17 11:39:55
Subject: First Expansions for Star Wars Legions
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RogueSangre
West Sussex, UK
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Fantasy Flight have used HK droids from the KOTOR Games in Imperial Assault since the old EU was retired so seems like not everything is off the table.
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2017/12/17 13:31:33
Subject: Re:First Expansions for Star Wars Legions
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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Albertorius wrote: Yodhrin wrote:
If this does even a little bit well, I've no doubt you'll eventually be able to play in all three movie eras and hell, maybe even Knights of the Old Republic or Tales of the Jedi times if it keeps selling well even after they've done all of those main ones.
KOTOR and TotJ are from the old EU. So don't hold your breath. At least not until Disney takes any of it back for Legends, which has been doing for other stuff like Thrawn.
The FFG Star Wars games are already confirmed to exist outside the New Canon continuity established by Disney, so there's no reason they can't dip into any part of Legends they feel like. Besides which, by the time FFG get through the Original, Sequel, and Prequel trilogy eras, assuming the game is still going strong enough to justify new development and that by that time Disney hasn't given the license to someone else, years will have passed and they might have re-canonised a big chunk of KotOR/TotJ era stuff or made their own versions of those stories anyway.
I'm not saying it's a dead cert or anything, just that this thing has a lot of legs if it does well even without stepping outside "official" material.
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I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal |
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2017/12/17 13:44:14
Subject: First Expansions for Star Wars Legions
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Last of the Jedi hints has a easter egg that links to Darth Revan. I won't be more specific for fear of spoilers.
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2017/12/17 14:53:25
Subject: First Expansions for Star Wars Legions
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Beautiful and Deadly Keeper of Secrets
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Aeneades wrote:Fantasy Flight have used HK droids from the KOTOR Games in Imperial Assault since the old EU was retired so seems like not everything is off the table.
The EA game on mobile Star Wars Galaxy of Heroes also dipped into KOTOR with Darth Nihlus and HK-47
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2017/12/17 22:40:56
Subject: First Expansions for Star Wars Legions
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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Replicant253 wrote:Last of the Jedi hints has a easter egg that links to Darth Revan. I won't be more specific for fear of spoilers.
Please do, there are spoiler tags for a reason. I saw TLJ but didn't pick up on that.
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2017/12/17 23:03:55
Subject: Re:First Expansions for Star Wars Legions
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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Yodhrin wrote: Albertorius wrote: Yodhrin wrote:
If this does even a little bit well, I've no doubt you'll eventually be able to play in all three movie eras and hell, maybe even Knights of the Old Republic or Tales of the Jedi times if it keeps selling well even after they've done all of those main ones.
KOTOR and TotJ are from the old EU. So don't hold your breath. At least not until Disney takes any of it back for Legends, which has been doing for other stuff like Thrawn.
The FFG Star Wars games are already confirmed to exist outside the New Canon continuity established by Disney, so there's no reason they can't dip into any part of Legends they feel like. Besides which, by the time FFG get through the Original, Sequel, and Prequel trilogy eras, assuming the game is still going strong enough to justify new development and that by that time Disney hasn't given the license to someone else, years will have passed and they might have re-canonised a big chunk of KotOR/TotJ era stuff or made their own versions of those stories anyway.
I'm not saying it's a dead cert or anything, just that this thing has a lot of legs if it does well even without stepping outside "official" material.
Actually... yes, and no. Yes, they are allowed to reach out of canon for setting stuff. No, they are not allowed to make any mini that's not from something produced by Disney unless it's negotiated separetely, like they did with the Imperial Raider.
That said, they have already made EU ships in Armada, that from what I'm told have been added to the Legends roster, so...
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2017/12/18 00:09:18
Subject: First Expansions for Star Wars Legions
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Norn Queen
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Aeneades wrote:Fantasy Flight have used HK droids from the KOTOR Games in Imperial Assault since the old EU was retired so seems like not everything is off the table.
They're using the Legends continuity which gives them free reign to include anything.
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2017/12/20 19:36:54
Subject: Re:First Expansions for Star Wars Legions
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Fiery Bright Wizard
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2017/12/20 19:55:15
Subject: First Expansions for Star Wars Legions
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Evasive Eshin Assassin
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how cool are they... nice.
looking forward to their rebel counterparts.
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2017/12/20 20:00:37
Subject: First Expansions for Star Wars Legions
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Fixture of Dakka
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$13 for that Veers model is neither particularly surprising nor exciting. The Snowtrooper price isn't too bad though, particularly considering what they were charging for multiple figures in Imperial Assault.
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2017/12/20 20:02:20
Subject: First Expansions for Star Wars Legions
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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LunarSol wrote:$13 for that Veers model is neither particularly surprising nor exciting. The Snowtrooper price isn't too bad though, particularly considering what they were charging for multiple figures in Imperial Assault.
Only $13??? Doesn't seem very steep to me, especially considering the amount of accessories you get with the figure.
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2017/12/20 20:29:15
Subject: First Expansions for Star Wars Legions
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Fixture of Dakka
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Shadow Captain Edithae wrote: LunarSol wrote:$13 for that Veers model is neither particularly surprising nor exciting. The Snowtrooper price isn't too bad though, particularly considering what they were charging for multiple figures in Imperial Assault.
Only $13??? Doesn't seem very steep to me, especially considering the amount of accessories you get with the figure.
It's just not a tremendously inspiring figure is really what bothers me. I'm also just a tad burned out all of FFGs accessories at this point. There games have just gotten feeling cluttered at this point, where I feel like I'm carrying around more accessories than figures.
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2017/12/20 21:07:36
Subject: Re:First Expansions for Star Wars Legions
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Hmm I was wondering how they would make the Snowtroopers different from the regular Stormtroopers. I don't see any mention of environment rules or restrictions though. So I guess jungle/desert/any environment you can think of Snowtroopers can be a thing in Legion then
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2017/12/20 21:13:58
Subject: Re:First Expansions for Star Wars Legions
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Fixture of Dakka
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GoatboyBeta wrote:Hmm I was wondering how they would make the Snowtroopers different from the regular Stormtroopers. I don't see any mention of environment rules or restrictions though. So I guess jungle/desert/any environment you can think of Snowtroopers can be a thing in Legion then
The article mentions some of the differences. Namely, Snowtroopers are slower, but get to move and shoot in the same action. They also have some different special weapons.
They are one of those things that annoy me in the way games work. Snowtroopers are essentially just Stormtroopers outfitted for cold weather. Rather than let them function that way in a game they have to differentiate themselves somehow, so players will either end up picking whichever one is stronger and putting Snowtroopers in the desert or best case scenario, they'll be well balanced enough that it will be worth fielding both and that's just all sorts of confusing when you stop and think about it.
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2017/12/20 21:26:10
Subject: First Expansions for Star Wars Legions
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Martial Arts SAS
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True. I might be in the minority but I'd enjoy building the same force several times over with appropriately attired Stormtroopers to suit the table I'm playing on.
On an unrelated topic I really hope we don't see the usual FFG problems of keeping products on shelves. We are already seeing a lot of SKUs for what is essentially wave 1, and the prospect of preordering everything in the months leading up to Christmas just to ensure you CAN get hold of it is rather daunting.
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2017/12/21 00:09:26
Subject: Re:First Expansions for Star Wars Legions
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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LunarSol wrote:GoatboyBeta wrote:Hmm I was wondering how they would make the Snowtroopers different from the regular Stormtroopers. I don't see any mention of environment rules or restrictions though. So I guess jungle/desert/any environment you can think of Snowtroopers can be a thing in Legion then The article mentions some of the differences. Namely, Snowtroopers are slower, but get to move and shoot in the same action. They also have some different special weapons. They are one of those things that annoy me in the way games work. Snowtroopers are essentially just Stormtroopers outfitted for cold weather. Rather than let them function that way in a game they have to differentiate themselves somehow, so players will either end up picking whichever one is stronger and putting Snowtroopers in the desert or best case scenario, they'll be well balanced enough that it will be worth fielding both and that's just all sorts of confusing when you stop and think about it.
This is partly why I'm surprised we're seeing them so early. Imperials are getting a very similar, secondary Coprs unit before FFG has announced a single Special Forces unit for either faction. Then again, I suppose it makes sense getting a some what unexciting unit (comparatively) out of the way sooner rather than later. I'm am excited for Veers though. Vader is cool and all that, but Veers seems like a better fit for my playstyle with his more support-based nature.
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2017/12/21 11:05:21
Subject: First Expansions for Star Wars Legions
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
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Trying to find info on release dates for Legion products. Have FFG stated any release dates, specifically for the starter box?
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Alpharius? Never heard of him. |
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2017/12/21 11:17:44
Subject: First Expansions for Star Wars Legions
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Agile Revenant Titan
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Early 2018 according to FF website.
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No earth shattering, thought provoking quote. I'm just someone who was introduced to 40K in the late 80's and it's become a lifelong hobby. |
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2017/12/23 02:34:09
Subject: First Expansions for Star Wars Legions
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Regular Dakkanaut
Chicagoland
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@sarigar I talked to some high ups. The plan is for a Feb release.
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2017/12/23 07:20:25
Subject: Re:First Expansions for Star Wars Legions
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Fixture of Dakka
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Any comparison photos of the minis between Legion and Imperial Assault? I want to get some, but am hesitant on the scale...
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2017/12/23 08:32:24
Subject: First Expansions for Star Wars Legions
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Couple of images floating around with a quick Google.
Hard to absolutely tell given angles and base sizes but they look somewhere between 'unusable atrocities' and 'ok as long as they aren't right next to each other'.
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2017/12/23 10:36:27
Subject: First Expansions for Star Wars Legions
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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We haven't seen images of release product yet. We've only seen pre production resin pieces. Sizes may be different.
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2017/12/23 09:50:30
Subject: First Expansions for Star Wars Legions
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
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Snowtroopers and Veers?
I wonder what wonderfully iconic element of the Rebels extensive ground forces they'll add to match the Imperials.
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2017/12/23 09:59:03
Subject: First Expansions for Star Wars Legions
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Multispectral Nisse
Luton, UK
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Snowtroopers and Veers?
I wonder what wonderfully iconic element of the Rebels extensive ground forces they'll add to match the Imperials.
Everything you need to refight Hoth with Echo base troopers and Rieekan? Or maybe Leia in her snow gear (it would be nice to have non-slavegirl, non-'buns' Leia figure for once).
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