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The changes to flamers and screamers sound promising for a mono-Tzeentch army list.

Oh we are getting leaks awesome, that slaanesh stratagem that gives -1 attack seems useful, does it say to a minimum of 1 and how does it work vs say chain sword bonus attacks ?

 skullking wrote:
I’m really hoping we see a character greater demon for Slaanesh in the codex. I always thought that was the crappiest thing that they didn’t get one when they became their own army between 4th/5th ed. Zarakynell (the forgeworld one) is great, but I’m hoping, like the GUO, a KoS plastic kit supports a special character, and a couple of basic alt builds.

Also, I REALLY hope a new kit has a bovine head option. The2nd ed model’s gazelleish head was kind of weird (and not in a good Slaaneshy way). But the old RoC figure with the SIX different cow heads, is one of my favorite GW figures of all time! It’s actually the first GW figure I ever bought, back in like 1990. Once eBay was in full swing, I tracked down all six variants, and now they’re used as my fiends (as they’re too small to be KoS (though legally they could be!!!!

If there was going to be new GUO model we would have heard of it by now so no there won't be.

This release is all about nurgle. No new khorne models, no new tzeentch models, no new slaanesh models.

Daemons are still 5++.

Beast of Nurgle are 5 Wounds now , and if you try to Fall Back from them (1"), on a 4+, you do a MW.

Afaik, god specific traits are the same.

xxhikaru123 wrote:
Daemons are still 5++.

Beast of Nurgle are 5 Wounds now , and if you try to Fall Back from them (1"), on a 4+, you do a MW.

Afaik, god specific traits are the same.

Would you be willing to share some relics for us ?

 Rydria wrote:
Oh we are getting leaks awesome, that slaanesh stratagem that gives -1 attack seems useful, does it say to a minimum of 1 and how does it work vs say chain sword bonus attacks ?

To a minimum of 1.

tneva82 wrote:

 skullking wrote:
I’m really hoping we see a character greater demon for Slaanesh in the codex. I always thought that was the crappiest thing that they didn’t get one when they became their own army between 4th/5th ed. Zarakynell (the forgeworld one) is great, but I’m hoping, like the GUO, a KoS plastic kit supports a special character, and a couple of basic alt builds.

Also, I REALLY hope a new kit has a bovine head option. The2nd ed model’s gazelleish head was kind of weird (and not in a good Slaaneshy way). But the old RoC figure with the SIX different cow heads, is one of my favorite GW figures of all time! It’s actually the first GW figure I ever bought, back in like 1990. Once eBay was in full swing, I tracked down all six variants, and now they’re used as my fiends (as they’re too small to be KoS (though legally they could be!!!!

If there was going to be new GUO model we would have heard of it by now so no there won't be.

This release is all about nurgle. No new khorne models, no new tzeentch models, no new slaanesh models.

Well not only is Tzeentch all plastic now they've already been expanded on, outside of perhaps some new character heralds. Khorne is nearly complete lacking only Flesh Hounds, and perhaps character heralds. Nurgle's getting all plastic and bonus characters now due to there joint AOS release. Slaanesh will be similar coinciding with their return on AOS, or alongside an Emperor's children release.

Thanks my dude, you are a scholar and a gentleman.

I believe the ability that Slaanesh Seekers had (run+charge) got transferred to Slaanesh heralds. If thats the case, what special rules do Seekers have now?

Also, do Daemonette/Seeker claws still have the same profile? S:U AP1 AP4 on a wound roll of 6+

Edit- As an aside. Assuming power level stays the same, you can plop 30 bloodletters 9'' away from an enemy unit on turn 1 for 1cp. That's pretty baller.

 Rydria wrote:

xxhikaru123 wrote:
Daemons are still 5++.

Beast of Nurgle are 5 Wounds now , and if you try to Fall Back from them (1"), on a 4+, you do a MW.

Afaik, god specific traits are the same.

Would you be willing to share some relics for us ?

Hmm. I don't think I am permitted to list all, There are usual junk ones but i will point out a few interesting ones.

Khorne: (Mons only) - 4++ Deny 1 power in each enemy psychic phase.
Khorne: 1 model. Each time you make wound roll of 6+ fr friendly khorne daemon unit within 6" of bearer, can make another free attack.

Tz: 1 additional TZ power
Tz: +1 to smite cast

Nurgle: everytime bearer kills a model in fight phase while within 7' of a plaguebearer unit , on a 4+, add a PB to that unit.
Slaanesh: 1x per game, start of phase, select enemy char within 12" roll 3d6, if exceed enemy char ld, it cannot do anything, and its abilities dont affect anything.

Any psychic powers info?

Is anyone else on this thread mashing f5?

+++REDACTED BY THE INQUISITION+++

On topic, I'm digging the alleged changes to Screamers and Flamers. Screamers will actually be useful in combat, now, and people can't hover just out of Flamer range before charging them.

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

tneva82 wrote:


If there was going to be new GUO model we would have heard of it by now so no there won't be.

I love how you can tell who hasn't been paying attention...

Yes, indeed. From the context (what is quoted as well as the next line), you can tell tneva means Keeper of Secrets and just typed the wrong acronym.

Thanks for the info.

Does Horticulous Slimux buff Beasts in any way?

Did any Khornate units get cheaper? Any unexpected new characters for any of the gods?

Thanks so much!

Here is my biggest burning question: does the wording of particular stratagems, anything at the start of the stratagem section, prevent you from using the stratagems on Daemon units that are from other codexes (i.e., they are keyword daemon but not keyword faction daemon)? I would assume no, and I would assume that you can use stratagems on Obliterators or Mortarion and so on so long as you have a chaos daemons detachment for using the stratagems.

Voss wrote:

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

tneva82 wrote:


If there was going to be new GUO model we would have heard of it by now so no there won't be.

I love how you can tell who hasn't been paying attention...

Yes, indeed. From the context (what is quoted as well as the next line), you can tell tneva means Keeper of Secrets and just typed the wrong acronym.

Fair enough. Redacted.

Any word on the change to Slaanesh Seekers? Any changes to the Slaaneshi Chariots?

tneva82 wrote:

 skullking wrote:
I’m really hoping we see a character greater demon for Slaanesh in the codex. I always thought that was the crappiest thing that they didn’t get one when they became their own army between 4th/5th ed. Zarakynell (the forgeworld one) is great, but I’m hoping, like the GUO, a KoS plastic kit supports a special character, and a couple of basic alt builds.

Also, I REALLY hope a new kit has a bovine head option. The2nd ed model’s gazelleish head was kind of weird (and not in a good Slaaneshy way). But the old RoC figure with the SIX different cow heads, is one of my favorite GW figures of all time! It’s actually the first GW figure I ever bought, back in like 1990. Once eBay was in full swing, I tracked down all six variants, and now they’re used as my fiends (as they’re too small to be KoS (though legally they could be!!!!

If there was going to be new GUO model we would have heard of it by now so no there won't be.

This release is all about nurgle. No new khorne models, no new tzeentch models, no new slaanesh models.

End of the year for new KoS, assuming that's what you meant.

TBH, people post whole page scans and nothing bad happens to them. Just throw the whole points page on imgur o something

I want to know:
have Bloodthirsters/Lord Of Change/Screamers been dropped in pts significantly?
Notable Psychic powers?

Thebiggesthat wrote:

End of the year for new KoS, assuming that's what you meant.

I'd love to believe this, but, uhh, do you have anything that supports this claim?


Also--
While everyone's inundating xxhikaru123 with requests for info about the new codex, could I trouble to ask if there was any change to the Keeper of Secrets or Fiends of Slaanesh?
And thank you for all the info so far, too.

Thebiggesthat wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 skullking wrote:
I’m really hoping we see a character greater demon for Slaanesh in the codex. I always thought that was the crappiest thing that they didn’t get one when they became their own army between 4th/5th ed. Zarakynell (the forgeworld one) is great, but I’m hoping, like the GUO, a KoS plastic kit supports a special character, and a couple of basic alt builds.

Also, I REALLY hope a new kit has a bovine head option. The2nd ed model’s gazelleish head was kind of weird (and not in a good Slaaneshy way). But the old RoC figure with the SIX different cow heads, is one of my favorite GW figures of all time! It’s actually the first GW figure I ever bought, back in like 1990. Once eBay was in full swing, I tracked down all six variants, and now they’re used as my fiends (as they’re too small to be KoS (though legally they could be!!!!

If there was going to be new GUO model we would have heard of it by now so no there won't be.

This release is all about nurgle. No new khorne models, no new tzeentch models, no new slaanesh models.

End of the year for new KoS, assuming that's what you meant.

Yeah I blame it on 5 hour sleeps. KOS, not GUO. To get rules for character greater daemon of slaanesh there would need to be model for it to be released none which are rumoured to be coming. And highly unlikely GW would release now 2 greater daemons at the same time(well 3 actually. GUO, KOS special character and unless GW goes nuts they don't release special character KOS without regular KOS as well)

though when new KOS comes is another thing. Could be this year, could be 2019, could be 2020, could be later.

 rvd1ofakind wrote:
TBH, people post whole page scans and nothing bad happens to them. Just throw the whole points page on imgur o something

I want to know:
have Bloodthirsters/Lord Of Change/Screamers been dropped in pts significantly?
Notable Psychic powers?

Bloodthirsters no change to pt, but they had some abilities addition I mentioned earlier.

LOC/Kairos drop 20-35.

Only naming the newer 3 powers for each.
Tz:
WC6. Reroll a single dice roll later during ur turn.
WC5. Pick friendly tz daemon unit within 18". Until next psychic phase, +1 to wound roll.
WC8. nearest enemy model wihtin 12, that model's unit and every other unit (friend or foe) within 3' of that model , suffers d3 MW. Suffer D6 MW, if power manifested with more than psychic roll of 12+.

Nurgle:
Wc7. Roll D6 for every unit (excluding nurgle) within 7" of caster. 4+ D3 MW.
WC6. Pick enemy unit visible within 18". -1 Toughness.
WC6 Miasma of Pestilence same as DG contagion but targets Nurgle Daemon.

Slaanesh:
WC5. Select friendly slaanhesh daemon within 18". 6+++ FnP
WC6. select enemy unit within 18 visible. Roll d6 for every model in that enemy unit. on a 6, 1 mw.
WC6. All enenmy unit -1 ld within 12 inch of psyker.

What about the new (3) nurgle heralds and great unclean?

I don't think I would really ever take that WC5 slaanesh spell maybe on a herald.

Sad to see no point drops on Bloodthirsters


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Any changes to Skarbrand?

Maybe they'll all get some new abilities? insanate rage gets 12 attacks if it uses the other weapon.

Oh did the wound tracks change on any of the greater demons?

nagash42 wrote:
Maybe they'll all get some new abilities? insanate rage gets 12 attacks if it uses the other weapon.

Oh did the wound tracks change on any of the greater demons?

Was really hoping for increased movement or survivability. Increased damage outlut is a something.

Does the 3d6 charge strategum work on the Bloodthirsters?

anticitizen013 wrote:Kinda bummed about the erm... change to the Changeling. Inv saves to Horrors makes sense though.

Having multiple saves in one unit is awful and slows the game though.

xxhikaru123 wrote:


Bloodthirsters no change to pt, but they had some abilities addition I mentioned earlier.

Thanks a lot for the information!!

Can you tell us something about the new units?

Some way to make mortal wounds with nurgle?

Thanks again