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It’s not like anyone ever really dies in the comics

 Baragash wrote:
It’s not like anyone ever really dies in the comics

Just Bucky, Uncle Ben, and Gwen Stacy....

Wait...

Normally here is where I would link "The death and return of Superman" by Max Landis, but the important line goes something like: "The death of Superman didn't kill Superman, it killed Death".

The Red Skull has the Cosmic Cube?!)

And I’m already looking forward to what will get released beyond what we’ve already seen previewed!

Can’t wait for the FF and Dr. Doom.

 Sqorgar wrote:

 Baragash wrote:
It’s not like anyone ever really dies in the comics

Just Bucky, Uncle Ben, and Gwen Stacy....

Wait...

Spoilers

 Original Timmy wrote:

 Sqorgar wrote:

 Baragash wrote:
It’s not like anyone ever really dies in the comics

Just Bucky, Uncle Ben, and Gwen Stacy....

Wait...

Spoilers

But... but... both Bucky and Gwen Stacy have models in Crisis Protocol!

Clearly they’re gonna get squatted as soon as it’s realized!

Now we just need a model for when they decide Uncle Ben was secretly an early test subject for the super soldier serum that causes him to regenerate 5 years after his death with great power that he doesn't know what to do with until Peter convinces him to take on the costumed identity of "The Responsibility".

 LunarSol wrote:
Now we just need a model for when they decide Uncle Ben was secretly an early test subject for the super soldier serum that causes him to regenerate 5 years after his death with great power that he doesn't know what to do with until Peter convinces him to take on the costumed identity of "The Responsibility".

Technically, there is a version of Uncle Ben who has spider powers from accompanying Peter on the field trip in one of the alternate dimensions in the Spider-verse saga. They find him hidden in a bunker in a world destroyed by, I think, nuclear fallout, then convince him to put the suit back on and help against the Inheritors. Ultimately, I think he moves into the Spider-Gwen universe.


I'd buy a model of that... or any of the other Spider-verse characters. (Hell, I'll only consider this line a success if we get Spider-ham)

I need a Spider-Man 2099 model...

...and Mysterio.

...and the rest of the original Sinister Six.

...and...

Having read the rules, I'm not as excited about the game. The main attack/defense mechanic seems a little convoluted, with all the different dice symbols and all the steps. and it seems like the choice of mechanic doesn't fit the super hero theme well. I know you don't want to have characters that are impossible to harm in a game, but they don't seem to be able to represent the characters well with the stats they have. Looking at the character cards, there seems to only be two different levels of defense, as almost all the defense stats are either 3 or 4 for everyone. Leading to things like Baron Zemo being just as hard to damage as Ultron.

I guess it's really the special abilities at the bottom of the card that are going to do the most to differentiate the characters, but a lot of those don't seem that different.

I think Knight Models got the rules right for their game. With one exception; Magneto shouldn’t have to test to pick up metal models. That should have been an auto-passed test. Other than that, the KM rules were solid. Shame they no longer do Marvel. Way superior to HP and more even-powered than DC. But Marvel felt the most natural. I’ll be keeping an eye on where this game goes.

 Albino Squirrel wrote:
Having read the rules, I'm not as excited about the game. The main attack/defense mechanic seems a little convoluted, with all the different dice symbols and all the steps. and it seems like the choice of mechanic doesn't fit the super hero theme well. I know you don't want to have characters that are impossible to harm in a game, but they don't seem to be able to represent the characters well with the stats they have. Looking at the character cards, there seems to only be two different levels of defense, as almost all the defense stats are either 3 or 4 for everyone. Leading to things like Baron Zemo being just as hard to damage as Ultron.

I guess it's really the special abilities at the bottom of the card that are going to do the most to differentiate the characters, but a lot of those don't seem that different.

That’s not encouraging!

I hope there’s more to it then what you’ve seen...

I just read a "first impressions" article that pretty much contradicted most of that, but it was Beasts Of War, so difficult to judge the objectivity.

The rules seem pretty light and clean, but I can definitely see how the heavy lifting of characterization seems to fall on those special abilities and passive abilities. Curiously, while reading the rules, it seems like you get VERY little energy with which to use abilities.

I'd encourage everyone to give the rules a read since they're very short, and free. I might be missing something, but at glance they feel inoffensive, with nothing jumping out as particularly wrong, or innovative.

Still excited though. On paper 40k has ass rules too but I play it and manage to enjoy it in part because of the huge community. If I can get an "ok" superhero game with loads of players, steady releases, and great models, i'll be excited!

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
The rules seem pretty light and clean, but I can definitely see how the heavy lifting of characterization seems to fall on those special abilities and passive abilities. Curiously, while reading the rules, it seems like you get VERY little energy with which to use abilities.

I'd encourage everyone to give the rules a read since they're very short, and free. I might be missing something, but at glance they feel inoffensive, with nothing jumping out as particularly wrong, or innovative.

Still excited though. On paper 40k has ass rules too but I play it and manage to enjoy it in part because of the huge community. If I can get an "ok" superhero game with loads of players, steady releases, and great models, i'll be excited!

In the base rules, you only get one energy per turn per character, plus one for each damage point you take (so like 4 or 5 before you get dazed, and another 4 or 5 before you are out of action). But a lot of the attacks seem to get you power for each damage point they do as well. And most special abilities seem to cost 2 or 3.

But yeah, it may still be fun enough to play. If it were a generic game I might have no interest, but obviously playing even an okay game with characters I really like will be fun, because I'll enjoy the narrative, as long as it's not ridiculous enough to ruin the immersion.

I originally wanted to try to use the Knight Models Batman game to try to pull in new players who weren't used to wargaming, because I thought the IP might help attract them. However when I read the rules I decided it wasn't simple enough for something like that.

So if this game proves to be simple enough for new players to grasp easily, then it might make a great "gateway" into miniature gaming.

Try the DC Universe game from Knights. It’s basically the same as Marvel, and that was really easy to get into. And the missions matter WAY more than kill count.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Try the DC Universe game from Knights. It’s basically the same as Marvel, and that was really easy to get into. And the missions matter WAY more than kill count.

Good to hear, thanks. Knight Models are a pain to put together though (I should know, I have loads of them); I suspect Marvel Crisis' plastic sprues will prove easier for new players who are interested in the hobby side.

Personally I'm building up some Monsterpocalypse for "new player bait" duty: no messing around with measuring tapes (I feel like non-gamers get a little put off by the measuring tapes; perhaps the measuring tools in Crisis will help it feel less intimidating even though functionally they aren't actually different from measuring tapes) and it still has an element of familiarity to anyone who knows Godzilla, Pacific Rim, King Kong etc.

You can see a picture of a few of the cards here: https://boardgamegeek.com/image/4883630/marvel-crisis-protocol

In addition the Captain America card is shown in the rulebook.

According to the FB group these are releases through 2019.

Do we know which Valkyrie it is? Old comic, movie, or current comic Jane Foster?

Scroll up. You can see a picture of the Valkyrie model taken at Gen Con. Looks like a classic look.


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Even better picture can be seen here: https://imgur.com/gallery/KvCaklC

Definitely inspired more by the old comic book version with the telescoping boob armor. But she's wearing pants. Maybe a mix of styles, I guess.

I'd bet...movie?

Or Old School Comic - too early for Jane Foster version, especially as she'll be doing the Thor thing for 'most people' in the movies first!

Thank you NewTruthNeomaxim for that list - very helpful and informative.

There are a surprising number of releases that I'll be OK with skipping in that list.

And we need more villains - too many heroes in 2019!

My pleasure. If nothing but out of love for the Marvel Universe, I feel like i'll be buying all of these release. I'm super excited for this one.

I think the scale of the models actually puts me off, although the idea of themed terrain is great.

There's quite a few classics that are shockingly not on the 'release at release' or even in 2019 - I'm stunned!

Wake me when X-Men show up .

 Alpharius wrote:
There's quite a few classics that are shockingly not on the 'release at release' or even in 2019 - I'm stunned!

Poor Hawkeye


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 AduroT wrote:
Do we know which Valkyrie it is? Old comic, movie, or current comic Jane Foster?

Definitely the one who didn't make it out of War of the Realms.

$105 for GotG and you dont even get Drax? Ouch! Guess I'd better shift all my KM Marvel stuff to fund this..