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2021/06/14 22:16:29
Subject: Masters Of The Universe: Revelation - 10 June Trailer Page 3
Anyone complaining about the reboot shouldn't be able to stomach a single episode of the original. Honestly, the worst thing about the reboot as far as I was concerned was trying to keep the incredibly cheesy character names from the original toy line that just clash terribly with the well thought out characters that are forced to bear them.
That's pretty reasonable. Except it wasn't really a matter of 'keeping' the names as being forced to- one of the few areas they couldn't get around the Dreamworks execs. Though, with some of the dumber ones they just jettisoned the characters altogether. One of the exceptions, 'Castaspella,' just became 'Glimmer's Aunt Casta' real quick.
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2021/06/14 22:21:36
Subject: Masters Of The Universe: Revelation - 10 June Trailer Page 3
Dysartes wrote: Question from someone who hasn't seen it - why the apparent dislike for the recent She-Ra series?
I don't like the art style. For me, that's the beginning, middle, and end of it. Same reason I couldn't watch the Netflix Godzilla series, and I love Godzilla.
Do you mean the Godzilla series where Godzilla rendered the earth uninhabitable? It was miserable. You missed nothing.
Yeah - I heard that as well, but glad to have it reinforced.
I think there are probably a lot of IPs my art snobbery is causing me to miss out on, though - it extends to comic books as well. Persepolis comes to mind.
Masters of the Universe looks fine to me, though. I will definitely check it out.
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2021/06/15 17:47:19
Subject: Re:Masters Of The Universe: Revelation - 10 June Trailer Page 3
New preview of Scare Glow. I think I'd grown beyond He Man by the time he appeared, but he looks cool!
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Dysartes wrote: Question from someone who hasn't seen it - why the apparent dislike for the recent She-Ra series?
I don't like the art style. For me, that's the beginning, middle, and end of it. Same reason I couldn't watch the Netflix Godzilla series, and I love Godzilla.
Do you mean the Godzilla series where Godzilla rendered the earth uninhabitable? It was miserable. You missed nothing.
Yeah - I heard that as well, but glad to have it reinforced.
I think there are probably a lot of IPs my art snobbery is causing me to miss out on, though - it extends to comic books as well. Persepolis comes to mind.
Masters of the Universe looks fine to me, though. I will definitely check it out.
Thru sheer willpower, determination and a refusal to be beaten down i managed to watch the entire anima godzilla trilogy.
On the bright side if i do end up in hell, it won't seem as bad now.
You were wise to avoid it, especially the ghawdawful third series of images shown in sequence with a soundtrack (It does not deserve to be called a movie)
"But the universe is a big place, and whatever happens, you will not be missed..."
2021/06/17 03:27:16
Subject: Re:Masters Of The Universe: Revelation - 10 June Trailer Page 3
Wow, I am really sorry you somehow found the fortitude to watch all three sections.
I for one have a glimmer of hope for He-man. This is one of those things you watch like Ash Vs. The Evil Dead. Brain off, nostalgia on.
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2021/06/18 05:19:30
Subject: Masters Of The Universe: Revelation - 10 June Trailer Page 3
While much of this list was known, I'm not sure I've seen such a detailed breakdown of who was playing who, so figured I'd share.
Mark Hamill as Skeletor,
Lena Headey as Evil-Lyn,
Chris Wood as Prince Adam/He-Man,
Sarah Michelle Gellar as Teela,
Liam Cunningham as Man-At-Arms,
Stephen Root as Cringer,
Diedrich Bader as King Randor/Trap Jaw,
Griffin Newman as Orko,
Tiffany Smith as Andra,
Henry Rollins as Tri-Klops,
Alan Oppenheimer (original Skeletor) as Moss Man,
Susan Eisenberg as Sorceress,
Alicia Silverstone as Queen Marlena,
Justin Long as Roboto,
Jason Mewes as Stinkor,
Phil LaMarr as He-Ro,
Tony Todd as Scare Glow,
Cree Summer as Priestess,
Kevin Michael Richardson as Beast Man and
Kevin Conroy as Mer-Man.
For my own curiosity, those names I didn't know I went back and looked up.
Chris Wood is Mon-El in the Arrowverse.
Stephen Root, done a lot of voice work, but is also Milton from Office Space.
Griffin Newman, Arthur in The Tick
Tiffany Smith, barely anything. She played Meghan Markle in a TV dramatisation of Harry and Meghan's relationship.
Henry Rollins - nothing big, but a lot of voiceover work in his credits. Was AJ in Sons Of Anarchy but don't know the show.
Susan Eisneberg. Mainly voice. Has done Wonder Woman a lot.
Justin Long, worked with Smith on Tusk, Die Hard 4.
Phil Lamarr. Hermes from Futurama.
Tony Todd. Candyman.
Cree Summer. Penny from Inspector Gadget. Probably now an adult. (It was 1983.)
Kevin Michael Richardson. Knew the name, wasn't sure of what he'd done. Answer? Basically everything. Most recently the twins in Invincible.
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We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Azreal13 wrote: While much of this list was known, I'm not sure I've seen such a detailed breakdown of who was playing who, so figured I'd share.
Mark Hamill as Skeletor,
Lena Headey as Evil-Lyn,
Chris Wood as Prince Adam/He-Man,
Sarah Michelle Gellar as Teela,
Liam Cunningham as Man-At-Arms,
Stephen Root as Cringer,
Diedrich Bader as King Randor/Trap Jaw,
Griffin Newman as Orko,
Tiffany Smith as Andra,
Henry Rollins as Tri-Klops,
Alan Oppenheimer (original Skeletor) as Moss Man,
Susan Eisenberg as Sorceress,
Alicia Silverstone as Queen Marlena,
Justin Long as Roboto,
Jason Mewes as Stinkor,
Phil LaMarr as He-Ro,
Tony Todd as Scare Glow,
Cree Summer as Priestess,
Kevin Michael Richardson as Beast Man and
Kevin Conroy as Mer-Man.
For my own curiosity, those names I didn't know I went back and looked up.
Chris Wood is Mon-El in the Arrowverse.
Stephen Root, done a lot of voice work, but is also Milton from Office Space.
Griffin Newman, Arthur in The Tick
Tiffany Smith, barely anything. She played Meghan Markle in a TV dramatisation of Harry and Meghan's relationship.
Henry Rollins - nothing big, but a lot of voiceover work in his credits. Was AJ in Sons Of Anarchy but don't know the show.
Susan Eisneberg. Mainly voice. Has done Wonder Woman a lot.
Justin Long, worked with Smith on Tusk, Die Hard 4.
Phil Lamarr. Hermes from Futurama.
Tony Todd. Candyman.
Cree Summer. Penny from Inspector Gadget. Probably now an adult. (It was 1983.)
Kevin Michael Richardson. Knew the name, wasn't sure of what he'd done. Answer? Basically everything. Most recently the twins in Invincible.
Henry Rollins-saw him do a live show once, which ended up being super interesting. Last movie i saw him in was kinda meh, but voicework should be ok
Phil Lamarr-i remember more for being Samurai Jack then for being hermes
2021/07/02 18:51:30
Subject: Masters Of The Universe: Revelation - 10 June Trailer Page 3
Like I said, it was just me sharing info I'd looked up for my own purposes. I've never watched Samurai Jack so it wasn't ever going to be my frame of reference, but I definitely knew Hermes.
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
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2021/07/02 23:26:00
Subject: Masters Of The Universe: Revelation - 10 June Trailer Page 3
The article talks about more of interest too. I felt the cast with characters was the most relevant, but there's parts where Smith talks about how the creative guys in charge at Mattel and Netflix are fans, and how part of the brief was to honour and not to mock the legacy and a bunch of other positive sounding things.
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We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
I still don’t know if I care for Mark Hamill as Skeletor. Like, I like Mark and his work, I just can’t not hear Joker with the few bits we’ve been given. It’s too distinctive of a character voice. Like sure, I’ve watched shows where I recognize voices from the actors other roles, but they’re generally more “normal” voices, while Joker is just rather unique. Or was.
2021/07/06 21:28:34
Subject: Re:Masters Of The Universe: Revelation - 10 June Trailer Page 3
Azreal13 wrote: While much of this list was known, I'm not sure I've seen such a detailed breakdown of who was playing who, so figured I'd share.
Just noticed the cast includes two Buffy's.
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2021/07/23 16:08:27
Subject: Re:Masters Of The Universe: Revelation - BRAND NEW Trailer Pg5
I liked it, quite a bit. I mean, it's no Avatar, but for essentially a western shonen (aimed at boys) cartoon, it's pretty good. If it continues like this I'd say it might beat Korra.
Non-spoiler thoughts:
1) They definitely didn't look at the setting and think "what stories can we tell here", they had a particular story they wanted to tell and they hammered the setting until it fit that story. There's some pretty bad exposition near the start where characters explain newly invented history and cosmology to each other to set up the plot and it's pretty hamfisted and the first episode is a godawful rush to transition between MOTU and... whatever this is. Once this plot gets going, it's absolutely riveting, with great pacing and hard not to binge in one go.
2) This isn't a man hating show, no matter what the reactionary troglodytes try to tell you. It's not Harley Quinn. Women are the focus, yes. But all the dudes are treated with respect, are competent and do cool things. One episode is literally all about how Man at Arms is the baddest mofo on the planet. "Progressive themes" are limited to about the same scope as GW's: the odd sidecut here and there and a new (I think) spunky black girl character.
3) This isn't for little kids. While IIRC the strongest word said is bollocks, there's plenty of gore and death. Oh, and character development. Lots of that.
If you can make it through the first two episodes, you'll love the rest. But maybe you want to hold off until the next 5 are out... because the cliffhanger at the end of ep 5 is absolutely sadistic.
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2021/07/23 21:09:47
Subject: Masters Of The Universe: Revelation - BRAND NEW Trailer Pg5
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Watched the first three episodes tonight and plan on watching the next two tomorrow. Enjoying it so far. It has done the characters well and it is fun seeing how they introduce and have updated each one. Not really going into it to much as not wanting to spoil anything this early on. Not that this is some 'twist' type of story just don't want to keep others from a chance to see it unfold organically.
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2021/07/24 11:25:23
Subject: Masters Of The Universe: Revelation - BRAND NEW Trailer Pg5
It's not a good kids show, given the themes and tone.
It's not a good adult show, given the quality of writing and execution of some fairly mundane character beats.
It doesn't look good, given that Netflix pays sweat shop rates for sweat shop quality animation.
I'm not even sure if it qualifies as good nostalgia grift, given people in this very thread describe it as "it's own thing", which I'm sure all the 35+ year old fans that were supposed to give it traction will be ecstatic about.
If, like me, you're not invested in the He-Man universe, skip this one. You aren't losing anything.
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2021/07/24 12:22:54
Subject: Masters Of The Universe: Revelation - BRAND NEW Trailer Pg5
IS this actually a continuation of the original? It’s been so long I don’t remember how that ended, but didn’t the one snake guy take over Snake Mountain from Skeletor? I recall Snake Mountain changing its appearance when they happened to the snake having multiple heads. I don’t know if it changed back during the original series, but Snake Mountain in this new one lacked that and we havent seen any of the snake dudes.
2021/07/24 15:32:52
Subject: Re:Masters Of The Universe: Revelation - BRAND NEW Trailer Pg5
AduroT wrote: IS this actually a continuation of the original? It’s been so long I don’t remember how that ended, but didn’t the one snake guy take over Snake Mountain from Skeletor? I recall Snake Mountain changing its appearance when they happened to the snake having multiple heads. I don’t know if it changed back during the original series, but Snake Mountain in this new one lacked that and we havent seen any of the snake dudes.
Well, spiritual continuation at least. Never followed the original series that much, but the first ep certainly had a similar vibe to the originals.
2021/07/24 17:36:13
Subject: Masters Of The Universe: Revelation - BRAND NEW Trailer Pg5
The original didn't have an overarching storyline, it was just a story to ostensibly convey some sort of moral, but in reality was to showcase one of the latest wave of toys each week.
There may have been an occasional 2 parter, and loosely Skeletor was always trying to get into Castle Greyskull, but nothing even approaching a coherent ongoing narrative.
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We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
I didn't mind it. Not amazing. No where near as good or coherent as the She-Ra reboot.
I think the thing here is that He-Man and tMotU has always been more a bunch of cool designs and barely anything else. There is a neat kernal of something there at it's core that could be built into something good when you cut around all the dumb bull gak or play it straight in a way that works with the rest of whatever you are doing with it.
But this barely does that so far. Teela is honestly the best part of this. Someone who immediately gaks on the dumb ass premise of the original series and goes off to be a real person in the world.
The new designs for many characters are pretty great. Love the techno cult. Love Beast man and Mer Man updated and covered in scars. Like Orko getting some characterization.
These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
2021/07/25 02:03:20
Subject: Masters Of The Universe: Revelation - BRAND NEW Trailer Pg5
Not sure why everyone is so butt-hurt, was a perfectly fine series. Nice to be able to take it seriously as opposed to the overly cheesy tone of the 80’s.
2021/07/25 02:54:50
Subject: Masters Of The Universe: Revelation - BRAND NEW Trailer Pg5
DeathKorp_Rider wrote: Nice to be able to take it seriously as opposed to the overly cheesy tone of the 80’s.
Wait... what? One of the things that I liked about this was precisely the fact that they leaned into the cheesiness, rather than trying take the source material seriously. There's certainly a serious undercurrent to it with the overall story, but as welcome as the character development is, it's still all cheesy and tropey.