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Not Online!!! wrote:

 OldMate wrote:


As cheap guns to bring on the field, I guess this would make campers a real pain, although, I can see the guard quite typically camping with a big line of guns, towed and otherwise

pdf seem more campy then regular guard.

I read this and immediately thought of Carry On Sergeant! That would be an interesting source of inspiration for IG!

 OldMate wrote:
Also what's wrong with plastic steel legion or a similar british/american themed faction? They already have ww2 germans and russians so you might as well complete the collection


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Maybe a Chimera based assault gun, like a stug, cheap as and packs a cannon, or battlefield artilley such as towed battle cannon, or vanquisers. and towed flack arrays.

You mean a thunderer ?

Thunderer-lite, think cheaper and weaker than a russ chassis -Oh yeah that's already a thing, think vindicator?

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

 AtoMaki wrote:

TangoTwoBravo wrote:
As a tanker, I try not to think about the interior layout of the Leman Russ.

An important note here is that the Leman Russ is controlled by a neural bridge interface, called the Mind Impulse Unit in-setting. So IRL crew experiences cannot really apply because, well, you don't have that thing in modern tanks, and it is a kind of game-changer if you think about it.

What Black Library books are you reading? The MIU is an Admech thing. Guard vehicles control just like modern ones. Even marine tanks don't have MIUs.

IG crews have MIUs since forever. The old tank crew models even had the jacks to show it. The RPG books were on-point with it as all Imperial Guard vehicle operators started with a MIU. Astartes tanks have advanced MIUs too that connect to the Black Carapace.

 AtoMaki wrote:

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

 AtoMaki wrote:

TangoTwoBravo wrote:
As a tanker, I try not to think about the interior layout of the Leman Russ.

An important note here is that the Leman Russ is controlled by a neural bridge interface, called the Mind Impulse Unit in-setting. So IRL crew experiences cannot really apply because, well, you don't have that thing in modern tanks, and it is a kind of game-changer if you think about it.

What Black Library books are you reading? The MIU is an Admech thing. Guard vehicles control just like modern ones. Even marine tanks don't have MIUs.

IG crews have MIUs since forever. The old tank crew models even had the jacks to show it. The RPG books were on-point with it as all Imperial Guard vehicle operators started with a MIU. Astartes tanks have advanced MIUs too that connect to the Black Carapace.

My mistake then. Maybe gw should inform their authors on this.

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

 AtoMaki wrote:

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

 AtoMaki wrote:

TangoTwoBravo wrote:
As a tanker, I try not to think about the interior layout of the Leman Russ.

An important note here is that the Leman Russ is controlled by a neural bridge interface, called the Mind Impulse Unit in-setting. So IRL crew experiences cannot really apply because, well, you don't have that thing in modern tanks, and it is a kind of game-changer if you think about it.

What Black Library books are you reading? The MIU is an Admech thing. Guard vehicles control just like modern ones. Even marine tanks don't have MIUs.

IG crews have MIUs since forever. The old tank crew models even had the jacks to show it. The RPG books were on-point with it as all Imperial Guard vehicle operators started with a MIU. Astartes tanks have advanced MIUs too that connect to the Black Carapace.

Maybe gw should inform their authors on this.

If we are at it they should tell them that Lightning fighters are not used in space combat, Space Marines don't use multi-lasers, etc.

 ScarletRose wrote:

We need something new, and modern - so how about IG players now have to mail-order their entire army?

Maybe they can use a printed catalog and paper order forms too?

Like I get we're wishlisting here, but really the trend of GW is exactly opposite of this - going for impulse buys of detailed but monopose miniatures.

Sarcasm aside, but it sounds like you've missed the entirety of the development of online shopping.

Yes, the trend for GW is against that but so far the overwhelming request in this thread has been for conversion or adaptability. Revamping *would* include different approaches otherwise it would not be a revamp but a release of a new faction. I'm sure for not much cost (besides the whole new molds) they could include a couple of extra heads or something but with the vast array requested (multi legs, multi torsos, multi heads) they would need to sky rocket the cost of a box set.

You know what else gets bought piecemeal like Bit A from this line, Bit B from that line, Bit C from a different line altogether? Basically every hobby ever outside of puzzles. Even Lego sells bits sets and has an online bits and a mail in bits service.

Personally I'd be happy with accessory sprues to just allow customization of the current box sets.

 Dysartes wrote:

How much of that is the Big Fur Hat?

Surprisingly little. I mean sure some is but the guy is HUGE.

I don't have a Primaris and my completed Marines are all in storage so this partial Assault guy from admittedly a long time ago will have to do. Fortunately they are my Grenadiers so they will do.

Lego's kind of a special case. If you ever watch anything surrounding their production methods? They're far more organized than people could even imagine. The parts are produced by color and specific bricks and organized accordingly.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Lego's kind of a special case. If you ever watch anything surrounding their production methods? They're far more organized than people could even imagine. The parts are produced by color and specific bricks and organized accordingly.

No I get that and I understand you've got to be a pretty damn good and established designer before they will allow you to introduce a new piece specific to your set. I was just using it an example of a modern, molded plastic producing company that does offer box sets as well as both online and the snarkily dismissed mail in ordering. IIRC Lego is the world's largest tyre manufacturer.

So far the ideas given have been "all the models in one box" which will be too expensive, "my specific faction" and lets rewrite the rules or redesign the business model of GW. We're probably not going to come to an agreement.

At this point there is a few things that must be accepted to answer the question of "If we get a new Guard codex and kits to accompany it?":

-Any kit will feature all of the options that the unit has. These will be both new and old.
-The kit will most likely lose some current options in favor of new ones, strictly for driving sales.
-The kit will be more expensive than the current ones, which were famously some of the cheapest units in the game both points and $-wise.

That last part is important to remember that there was a factor in play when the Cadian box dropped:
Cadian boxes included 10 riflemen, 0 Heavy Weapons, arms for a Sergeant to have a Chainsword+Laspistol, a Flamer, and a Grenade Launcher.
If you wanted any Heavy Weapon Teams? When the initial Cadian release happened, they also sold $10 Heavy Weapon Team kits that went along with your $25-$30 box of 20 Cadian Shock Troops.
If you wanted Plasma Guns or Melta Guns? They came in a $9 blister of 1 of each.
If you wanted a Sniper Rifle? $9 blister of each Cadian Sniper pose.

The Heavy Weapon Squad box was a better deal($25 for 3 or so) than buying them individually...but the Team kits weren't bad for people who just were putting stuff into squads.


It's important to note as well that the 'snarkily dismissed mail-in ordering' ignored that if it was to be done? GW would not reasonably be able to make it available to independent shops. So why would they do this if it's just going to be a huge hassle to them in terms of PR and logistics?

If they made the guard heavy weapons a bit more scaled down I'd be happy. As it is they're lugging the biggest lascannon and Hbolter models available.