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mrFickle wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
A datasheet for the Tanith was mentioned alongside the LE version of "The Vincula Insurgency" - though I'd be asking where else we'll see it printed.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 ArcaneHorror wrote:
Covid, brexit and shutdowns were what happened.

And how long can they dine out on those excuses?

That'll depend on production lead times and lingering effects. Vaccine program continuing will help to mitigate the COVID side of things eventually; Brexit is probably more of an issue with exports to Europe than otherwise; and the UK shutdown only started to lift two or three weeks ago.

The bigger question will be whether or not we end up having to go for another lockdown because people are idiots...


I don’t quite see how covid has affected GW greatly. model sculpting, codex writing, PR can all be done remotely. Only the factory work would be difficult but the rules have always stated that if you can’t work from home then you can go to the office. Unless GW asked its staff not to go to the factory for health reasons, which Id respect.


The ability to collaborate is greatly affected. Playtesting becomes harder, too.

   
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LOL playtesting, okay then

CaptainStabby wrote:
If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.

 jy2 wrote:
BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.

 vipoid wrote:
Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?

 MarsNZ wrote:
ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
 
   
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Oh yeah. Clearly the game is suffering from the sudden lack of playtesting.


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Deadalus come on dude. They don't playtest. Collaboration? I guess the pubs are closed so they can't get smashed and come up with bad ideas...If anything this should help with making a sober ruleset.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Oh yeah. Clearly the game is suffering from the sudden lack of playtesting.



Whether or not it happens or what that process looks like? *shrug*

   
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Xenomancers wrote:Deadalus come on dude. They don't playtest. Collaboration? I guess the pubs are closed so they can't get smashed and come up with bad ideas...If anything this should help with making a sober ruleset.

Yeah, after all, the monkeys need their dart board, and they can't set one up to be done remotely.

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 Charistoph wrote:
Xenomancers wrote:Deadalus come on dude. They don't playtest. Collaboration? I guess the pubs are closed so they can't get smashed and come up with bad ideas...If anything this should help with making a sober ruleset.

Yeah, after all, the monkeys need their dart board, and they can't set one up to be done remotely.


There's gotta be a dartboard on TTS....
   
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They should have delayed Charadon, period. No one wants Day 1 DLC (unless it's busted and you're a comp player, I guess). Admech book isn't even out and you're throwing out additional content. If the codexes were delayed for Covid, Brexit, whatever, then delay Charadon too until you catch up.
There are so many armies lacking in 9th right now, but because they have new sisters models to sell, that codex is up soon (and is one of the few codexes that really didn't need an update yet). Very frustrating. The only reason why the pushback from the community is so mild is because most people are not really playing much, so it's more of a case of "who cares what they release, can't play anyway".
Tau, GSC, Chaos marines, Guard, Craftworlds (although I don't want that released unless with a substantial co-release of new miniatures) all need a new codex over a dumb campaign book adding additional rules. Crusade books, sure.....go to town with those alongside releases, but not the Charadon style books. Bloat for the Bloat God.
   
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You guys act like there are no Russian websites that will have full high res copies for download within 24 hours of release. But I'm betting enough players will be slavering at the local GW store on release day to justify the practice in perpetuity. I mean the sheer number of Youtuber influencers that need to post their "special in depth analysis" within 10 hours of release is at least 25% of the predicted market.

I'm sure Auspex Tactics will have a video entitled "Which Belacor lists are better" withing 5 hours, that spans exactly 31 minutes (gotta get those sweet youtube algorithm dollars) and says exactly nothing.
   
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FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
I'm sure Auspex Tactics will have a video entitled "Which Belacor lists are better" withing 5 hours, that spans exactly 31 minutes (gotta get those sweet youtube algorithm dollars) and says exactly nothing.


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FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
You guys act like there are no Russian websites that will have full high res copies for download within 24 hours of release. But I'm betting enough players will be slavering at the local GW store on release day to justify the practice in perpetuity. I mean the sheer number of Youtuber influencers that need to post their "special in depth analysis" within 10 hours of release is at least 25% of the predicted market.

I'm sure Auspex Tactics will have a video entitled "Which Belacor lists are better" withing 5 hours, that spans exactly 31 minutes (gotta get those sweet youtube algorithm dollars) and says exactly nothing.


What I hate about new model releases is they amount fo people on Instagram that post the GW image of the new model as if they are giving you the news first hand and that you haven’t already seen these new models 1000 times
   
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 bullyboy wrote:
They should have delayed Charadon, period. No one wants Day 1 DLC (unless it's busted and you're a comp player, I guess).

Competitive players aren't the ones that defend busted units and rules, just remember that.

CaptainStabby wrote:
If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.

 jy2 wrote:
BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.

 vipoid wrote:
Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?

 MarsNZ wrote:
ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
 
   
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Imagine even trying to defending this absolute junk and justifying consooming a product which offers at most, 3 pages of mediocre rules content and '''''lore''''' that advances the story that most likely is summarised by "and then the bad guy continues his evil scheme, edging ever closer after being fought to another draw".

Campaign books are crap. They're overcosted junk offering rules that tend to either be incredibly bad or in some incredibly niche way, incredibly overpowered. Most of the 40k lore can be read online for free (and much of it now is just repetitive junk which contradicts itself). I can't wait to learn how Be'lakor (a character who should've never been ported to 40k in the first place, but GW needed more money) enacts a master plan to do nothing and continues his nefarious schemes that go nowhere.

They're also incredibly short lived. None of the content in them feels special (do people even play the missions these offer?)
   
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ccs wrote:
 Charistoph wrote:
Xenomancers wrote:Deadalus come on dude. They don't playtest. Collaboration? I guess the pubs are closed so they can't get smashed and come up with bad ideas...If anything this should help with making a sober ruleset.

Yeah, after all, the monkeys need their dart board, and they can't set one up to be done remotely.

There's gotta be a dartboard on TTS....

But it takes time to train a dartboard monkey to be a mouse monkey, and then there's setting up the room to feel like a bar so the monkey knows it's supposed to be throwing darts. All in all, just a huge mess.

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Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
 bullyboy wrote:
They should have delayed Charadon, period. No one wants Day 1 DLC (unless it's busted and you're a comp player, I guess).

Competitive players aren't the ones that defend busted units and rules, just remember that.


They'll sure make use of them as long as they last though....
   
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ccs wrote:
Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
 bullyboy wrote:
They should have delayed Charadon, period. No one wants Day 1 DLC (unless it's busted and you're a comp player, I guess).

Competitive players aren't the ones that defend busted units and rules, just remember that.


They'll sure make use of them as long as they last though....


And complain when it gets nerfed into the ground...
And...
And..
And.
But funnily enuff they don't complain when something is average. Cuz it is trash and you're an idiot for putting it in your list.
   
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Racerguy180 wrote:
ccs wrote:
Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
 bullyboy wrote:
They should have delayed Charadon, period. No one wants Day 1 DLC (unless it's busted and you're a comp player, I guess).

Competitive players aren't the ones that defend busted units and rules, just remember that.


They'll sure make use of them as long as they last though....


And complain when it gets nerfed into the ground...

Probably because GW doesn't nerf reasonably and they smash a unit or rules into pieces. Y'all got the memory of goldfish to forget that.

CaptainStabby wrote:
If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.

 jy2 wrote:
BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.

 vipoid wrote:
Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?

 MarsNZ wrote:
ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
 
   
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Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Racerguy180 wrote:
ccs wrote:
Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
 bullyboy wrote:
They should have delayed Charadon, period. No one wants Day 1 DLC (unless it's busted and you're a comp player, I guess).

Competitive players aren't the ones that defend busted units and rules, just remember that.


They'll sure make use of them as long as they last though....


And complain when it gets nerfed into the ground...

Probably because GW doesn't nerf reasonably and they smash a unit or rules into pieces. Y'all got the memory of goldfish to forget that.

And why do they do that...cuz of WAACholes
And to get you to buy the next thing...ad nauseum ad infinitum
   
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Nah, they do it because actually fixing something takes too much work and effort. So it is easier to do a "fix" of something that ends with us never seeing a castellan ever again.




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Racerguy180 wrote:
Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Racerguy180 wrote:
ccs wrote:
Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
 bullyboy wrote:
They should have delayed Charadon, period. No one wants Day 1 DLC (unless it's busted and you're a comp player, I guess).

Competitive players aren't the ones that defend busted units and rules, just remember that.


They'll sure make use of them as long as they last though....


And complain when it gets nerfed into the ground...

Probably because GW doesn't nerf reasonably and they smash a unit or rules into pieces. Y'all got the memory of goldfish to forget that.

And why do they do that...cuz of WAACholes
And to get you to buy the next thing...ad nauseum ad infinitum

Yeah they nerf units to uselessness because of WAAC players. LOL whatever helps you sleep at night.

CaptainStabby wrote:
If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.

 jy2 wrote:
BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.

 vipoid wrote:
Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?

 MarsNZ wrote:
ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
 
   
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They're the only ones complaining and purposefully abusing them with "data" to back it up...so stands to reason.
   
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Racerguy180 wrote:
They're the only ones complaining and purposefully abusing them with "data" to back it up...so stands to reason.


Okey. Then explain the nerfs that happened to GK in 8th ed. GK were one of the bottom tier armies, but through out 8th ed it even became a meme that every FAQ batch there are going to be nerfs for them in it, or removal of rules and units.

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Gk got pre-nerfed I am betting, because GW knew what they intended to do with them would make them broken without those nerfs.
   
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To get things back on topic here.

It looks like Thousand Sons are going to the next Chaos army, which I found kind of surprising. I fully expected Daemons or Vanilla CSM to come next.

Really curious to see how this army of renown will interact with the Daemon and Vanilla dex.

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I think SOB, Orks and AdMech are first though. So unless they pick up the release scheduled, it's at least August before 1kSons. 'Soon' is relative here.
   
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Racerguy180 wrote:
And why do they do that...cuz of WAACholes
And to get you to buy the next thing...ad nauseum ad infinitum

Not quite. They'll do it because of Whales, but not WAACholes (though, it may be hard to tell the difference). WAACholes were the reason GW shut down their forums due to toxicity. Whales will just move on.

Not saying people can't be a mix of them, but a WAAChole is someone who won't (or can't) move on, and doesn't always rely on the new choices to win (like bad measuring, bad rules lawyering, etc). Some Whales are just pokemon collectors, always collecting the new shiny or just ones who want to be completionist.

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FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
Gk got pre-nerfed I am betting, because GW knew what they intended to do with them would make them broken without those nerfs.


And that is why they let other armies smite spam? Plus we are talking here about the GW that thought that letting dark reaper proc extra shots from DE flock bases was an okey idea. Plus later on they did make an all psyker army with regular smite, and 1ksons were not breaking the game.


It looks like Thousand Sons are going to the next Chaos army, which I found kind of surprising. I fully expected Daemons or Vanilla CSM to come next
Really curious to see how this army of renown will interact with the Daemon and Vanilla dex.

The same way DG does. Would make sense if it was done the same way.

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