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 Polonius wrote:
I find the dunking on Duncan (wordplay!) to be a weird flex in the community.
It's not really a "flex", I'm a terrible painter, Duncan is way better than me, I just find his technique in tutorials is not conducive to actually getting an army painted. Like, I watched one of his Ork / Orc tutorials, and yeah, it looked better than my Ork / Orc army, but if I followed his method it would have taken me 3 times longer to paint each model which would have meant I never would have finished the army, and they weren't THAT much better than mine, certainly not 3 times better.

But then, on the flip side, even though the style you get from Duncan's tutorials is clean and neat, it's really not up to the standard that a lot of folks paint for their display or centrepiece models.

Duncan's tutorials are probably good for someone painting their first model or two, learning brush control, how to thin paints, etc, but after that if you actually want to get your army painted I think even beginners should be looking into more intelligent ways of painting, like spraying a zenithal highlight with black/white and using inks, or blending their shades rather than doing the "shade it, then paint your base again" method, and then learning about painting volumes rather than just shading where the wash happens to fall.

I find the actual material covered by, say Vince Ventrurella, of more value, but also not as pleasant to watch/listen to. So I get it


I agree, I still watch Duncan's tutorials from time to time, but Marco Frisoni, Miniac, Squidmar, BuyPainted, Plasmo, and so on, those are the ones I watch to actually learn stuff.

   
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Also if you are a company launching a new line of minis and have Duncan painting and helping out how would you address it?

They described Duncan as "Instructing hobbyists around the world to paint their models to a high standard via their popular video" and that sounds just fine to me.

Its a positive vibe and much better than GW silly speech of "best thing ever".

I think Duncan quality is ok and good but thats just my opinion and means nothing. It also means nothing that I would rather see him trying new techniques for the sake of my notion of Value. I mean he is a likeable chap and easy to listen so thats half of the battle for a good Vid tutorial.

   
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 Arschbombe wrote:
MaxT wrote:
Non competes are generally for higher ups where their skills and knowledge going to a rival could actually impact the business in a meaningful way. All respect to Duncan but no one gives a gak if a community manager type goes to a rival company or sets up themselves


Fun fact: there are fast food chains in the US with non-compete clauses for their workers.


And they hold on front of a judge?
   
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Koveras wrote:
 Arschbombe wrote:
MaxT wrote:
Non competes are generally for higher ups where their skills and knowledge going to a rival could actually impact the business in a meaningful way. All respect to Duncan but no one gives a gak if a community manager type goes to a rival company or sets up themselves


Fun fact: there are fast food chains in the US with non-compete clauses for their workers.


And they hold on front of a judge?


No one really has tried as fast food workers cannot afford the cost of going to court to contest. Most NDA and Non-compete agreements in the US are signed by people they legally don't cover and the defendant would most likely win but for most it's not worth the risk of that potential 10% chance you loose and are left with tens of thousands in court costs and lawyer fees.

The one that most likely being referenced in this thread is Jimmy Johns (a sandwich place) that dropped the non-compete due to public mocking of them. It was a pretty bad PR move to have it in the first place but they did for years before it became news. I'm not aware of another that does but franchises could have those contracts so they could be tied to small regional areas. Jimmy John's was from the main cooperate office so everyone had to sign it.

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 Polonius wrote:
Good lord, I really wish people would at least try to understand IP issues before commenting on them.

There is likely no action GW could bring against a painter for using their paints and minis and creating a how to paint video. The reason is that the creator isn't utilizing their characters or setting to create a new work, but rather creating a work using physical goods that GW sells. GW can copyright a primaris marine, but that just prevents people from selling other primaris marines. A video featuring a primaris marine that they bought is fine.

Same thing with paint names. They are trademarked, which means Duncan can't sell a paint named XV-88 or The Fang, but that does not mean you cannot make and sell a video using those products. To win an action, GW would have to claim that Duncan's use of their trademarked names would cause a confusion, and thus induce people to buy his product instead of GW paints, which is patently absurd.


There's no action GW could LEGALLY bring.

There's plenty of actions GW could take that would be adverse to a painting channel, costing them time and money and subscribers. And if GW is persistent enough, the channel's livelihood considering how the youtube enforcement is slanted 90 percent in favor of the claimant. Duncan could, theoretically, fight it in court. If he has enough money to.

The power is largely in the hands of GW and Youtube though, Duncan lives by then choosing not to exercise that power.
   
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A few tidbits from the video's comments. The Kickstarter should be live in a couple of weeks, glazes will be a part of Phase 2, there will be a conversion chart on the website, they're already working on a tutorial using the new paints, they're working on getting the paints into retail stores, 3 new gold paints using 'new technology',




A few tidbits from the video's comments:

The Kickstarter should be live in a couple of weeks.
Glazes will be a part of Phase 2.
There will be a conversion chart on the website.
They're already working on a tutorial using the new paints.
They're working on getting the paints into retail stores.
3 new gold paints using 'new technology'.

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Well, Kickstarter and looks like there is an actual model of Sir two thin coats , Hopefully shipping won't kill this for me. I've enjoyed his painting videos and if I can get a good deal on the paints and support his endeavors.

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Duncan is a likeable personality who helped a lot of people improve their skills. I doubt i'd have much use for the paints, but always interested in trying out new washes and so happy to chip a purchase in to help the guy out.
   
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I'd at least have a stab at golds/metallics with some novel formulation, given metallics are always awful.
   
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I'll be interested what these metals would bring to the table.
Unfortunately I already have far too many acrylic paints and don't have enough money to be spending it on a whim. Not to mention I prefer to avoid Kickstarters with a barge pole.
   
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 The Phazer wrote:
I'd at least have a stab at golds/metallics with some novel formulation, given metallics are always awful.


Vallejo metals are pretty solid in my book.

   
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Id be happy to give some of these a try if and when they get into shops via normal distro
   
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Florence, KY

The pre-launch Kickstarter page is up. The Kickstarter goes live next week according to the Duncan Rhodes Painting Academy Facebook page.

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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Florence, KY

From the Trans Atlantis Games mailing list:

Hi

Trans Atlantis Games are proud to announce the launch of Two Thin Coats Paints, a new paint range developed in partnership with the Duncan Rhodes Painting Academy.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/transatlantisgames/duncan-rhodes-painting-academy-two-thin-coats-paints

The Kickstarter campaign will go live on Tuesday the 7th of September 2021, at 9am EST (USA) and 2pm GMT (UK). You can click the link above to visit the campaign or to sign up for a reminder, to make sure you can get in for the early bird special to get the best deal possible.

Duncan Rhodes has probably assisted more hobbyists with painting miniatures than anyone else in the world with his instructional tutorials, which can now be found at www.duncanrhodes.com and on YouTube at: https://www.youtube.com/c/DuncanRhodesPaintingAcademy

The Two Thin Coats Paints Range consists of 60 high quality acrylic paints, each developed from the ground up with some of the best paint development chemists in the world. These are not paints we just bought off the shelf and bottled. We developed each colour to meet our high standards of what we thought a miniature paint should be. Whether you are a beginner or a seasoned painter, we believe that you’ll find using these paints an absolute joy to use! We are both extremely excited for hobbyists around the world to get their hands on these paints and to give them a whirl…or to apply two thin coats!

During the Kickstarter Campaign, anyone backing will have a great selection of stretch goals, versions of which will only be available during the campaign and give some hints of what may appear in the future.

Trans Atlantis Games is headed up by Industry veteran Bob Watts and his team of Industry Professionals spanning the globe to bring you high quality games and accessories.

We can be found at

https://transatlantisgames.com https://www.facebook.com/TransAtlantisGames https://www.instagram.com/transatlantisgames

Learn more and follow our project!

Thanks!

Trans Atlantis Games



'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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Florence, KY

The Kickstarter is now live and with a goal of $50,000 in the next 24 days they already have $17,000 pledged.

Kickstarter is FULLY FUNDED.



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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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That turnaround of estimated delivery in January is pretty quick , you have to wonder how many of the paints have been made already.

I just hope that the estimated timely rollout is not adversely impacted by the success that this campaign already is. But choice of paint line is such an individual thing that I cannot personally justify backing this in any big way without having tried them first.

That said, all success to them.

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Best of luck.

Odd colour choices since the majority is browns and greys? Not enough greens etc.

   
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This isn't for me, but I'm genuinely excited to see Duncan succeed.

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Carcharodon? Not Shark Grey? Someone slipped there
   
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That looks like the most basic B set of colours that's ever been brought together. Hopefully the quality is A++ cos the palette looks genuinely bad.
   
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Florence, KY

 NAVARRO wrote:
Best of luck.

Odd colour choices since the majority is browns and greys? Not enough greens etc.

This is just the first phase. Duncan has confirmed glazes as a part of phase 2.

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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I'm in for the metallics, purples, browns and greys. I already have too many of those colors, but they seem to find a way into most of my projects.

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 Irbis wrote:
Carcharodon? Not Shark Grey? Someone slipped there


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Hmm. This looks interesting, particularly as the starter colors shown appear in triads (shadow, base, highlight - or whatever the technical terms are).

I'm a sucker for paints, but wonder at what the pricing will be retail. The Kickstarter "starter" tier of 15 paints for $55 is $3.66 per bottle, with add on bottles at $4 per.

I think those do include shipping, but where is this likely to fall in the continuum of hobby paints price wise? Seems on the high side out of the gate.

Obviously a lot will depend on how they work, how well the trickier colors cover (looking at you, white and yellow). I'll also be waiting on release to stores, since the cost via kickstarter doesn't seem that great, and I have zero interest in bases as stretch goals.

Though they've already doubled their asking price out of the gate, with over 20 some days to go. Not bad.

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This certainly is cool but I already have a pile of paint so I can't justify going in on this. That being said if my FLGS gets some in stock I'll pick up a few colours to give it a go.

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 Cruentus wrote:
Hmm. This looks interesting, particularly as the starter colors shown appear in triads (shadow, base, highlight - or whatever the technical terms are).

I'm a sucker for paints, but wonder at what the pricing will be retail. The Kickstarter "starter" tier of 15 paints for $55 is $3.66 per bottle, with add on bottles at $4 per.

I think those do include shipping, but where is this likely to fall in the continuum of hobby paints price wise? Seems on the high side out of the gate.

Obviously a lot will depend on how they work, how well the trickier colors cover (looking at you, white and yellow). I'll also be waiting on release to stores, since the cost via kickstarter doesn't seem that great, and I have zero interest in bases as stretch goals.

Though they've already doubled their asking price out of the gate, with over 20 some days to go. Not bad.


Went in at the Grand Master tier, with the 25% discount the cost per pot is about $2.60.

Looking at the paint guide, everything down to about Dragon Fang is useful to me on current projects, along with the metallics and washes.

That's decent value. What would be helpful is a video demonstration of the paints in action, would love to see how the Reds operate in practice.

   
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 techsoldaten wrote:
What would be helpful is a video demonstration of the paints in action, would love to see how the Reds operate in practice.

There is a 30 minute video on the Kickstarter page (right above the Rewards) where Duncan uses the paints to paint Sir Coates.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/transatlantisgames/duncan-rhodes-painting-academy-two-thin-coats-paints

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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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I backed at the £130 level (one of everything). I figure I'll have run out of at least *some* paints by January.

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 Ian Sturrock wrote:
I backed at the £130 level (one of everything). I figure I'll have run out of at least *some* paints by January.


And we dakkaites can only expect a review from you good Sir.
Let us know how good these are

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Teesside

I shall! In a completely anti-Duncan way, I shall most likely be using these to add extra colour depth to models already painted with Contrast, but WTF.

You will have to forgive my adequate quality paint jobs though...

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