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Because its not relevant

If you have an admech warlord You can take a free relic - I don't so it has no bearing. Even if I did it would have no bearing as it only gives permission for a character to take a relic. The exact wording of what comes after if you have an admech warlord matters

Permission is granted by the strat - which as discussed earlier is 0 with a strict raw reading as your warlord phrase only gives a character a relic and makes no mention of access to the factions relics. if your not useing a strict raw it means you can take it unless theirs a restriction you have shown no restriction.

Since me alex and jake all read the rules the same way we are clearly reading them

Let's not go down in circles with this again.

@DeathReaper, I'm disappointed that was your response to me. I had hoped you had evaluated and expressed why you thought the quoted rule is a restriction rather than repeat your refrain ad nauseam. I don't think there is anything further that I can say to you on this topic. Thank you for your time.

@U02dah4, it is evident that, for whatever reasons, DeathReaper does not see the issue with what he calls a "restriction". I don't think any additional conversation on this point will be productive.

It must be a relic they can have. Without having a AM warlord how many relics are available?

Exactly the same as not having an am warlord

All of them admech relics are not restricted

Even if they were it would be exactly the same none of them

U02dah4 wrote:
Exactly the same as not having an am warlord

All of them admech relics are not restricted

Even if they were it would be exactly the same none of them

You mean zero. Because if all of them are available then that would mean you could give one to every character in your army.

But we know that is not true, so your statement is not true.


But seriously answer this:

Why did you ask the question if you are going to ignore the rules and do what you want anyway?

No because whether or not you have an admech warlord only refers to the free relic going to a character it makes no reference to your army's access to relics in general or access for non characters

I'm not , I wanted to know if I had missed something me alex and jake have all read the rules we found nothing and came to the same conclusion

You invented stuff and have not supported it with any evidence so I'll ignore that (or more accurately quoted stuff that proves you wrong because it doesn't state what you claim it states). While doctorom seems to think it's broken and never works which while correct under strict raw is clearly not rai so I will ignore them.

U02dah4 wrote:


Your not missing anything most factions have that and no it is entirely true that other codexs have the same wording and are not locked to a faction that's what the majority in this say.

The core argument is that 2 people seem to have invented a restriction from that stock phrase. Which they are unable to quote in anyway or support in anyway. They then apply that restriction to "it must be a Relic they can have" claiming you don't meet it if you don't have a warlord which would be true if that restriction existed but it doesn't.

I suspected as much. So it’s the usual one rule grants Warlord free relic, a Strat allows [someone else] a Relic a different way, but someone is trying to muddy that for internet points? How silly.

Never change, YMDC. Well, actually, do. It would be great if this was a resource for players. It isn’t in its present state.

Yes I feel the same

 JohnnyHell wrote:

U02dah4 wrote:


Your not missing anything most factions have that and no it is entirely true that other codexs have the same wording and are not locked to a faction that's what the majority in this say.

The core argument is that 2 people seem to have invented a restriction from that stock phrase. Which they are unable to quote in anyway or support in anyway. They then apply that restriction to "it must be a Relic they can have" claiming you don't meet it if you don't have a warlord which would be true if that restriction existed but it doesn't.

I suspected as much. So it’s the usual one rule grants Warlord free relic, a Strat allows [someone else] a Relic a different way, but someone is trying to muddy that for internet points? How silly.

Never change, YMDC. Well, actually, do. It would be great if this was a resource for players. It isn’t in its present state.

My only regret is that I can exalt this only once. It really needs a lot more moderation to hold any value.