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 kodos wrote:
but unlike ACW and Napoleonic, WW2 is already available in all kind of scales

going their epic scale and people just use 1/144, going close to 18mm and people use 1/72

and the new rules/campaigns will be interesting, I hope they don't focus just on specific battles

ACW and Napoleonic is available in all kinds of scales too though? Especially Napoleonics.

WW2 has more plastic options, but even that's mostly just Battlefront and PSC for 15mm, or PSC for 20mm.
   
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and Victrix in 1/144, as well as Revell, Italeri, Zvezda in different scales (1/72, 1/100, 1/48)

ACW in plastic is 28mm and 1/72, while for Napeolonics there is 28mm, 1/72 (and 18mm but they are OOP)
here both have good metal ranges but mainly 10 or 6mm for Napo, were there are good models in 12mm for ACW (which is already a problem for Warlord as their Epic ACW Resin is more expensive with worse quality but not much different in size)

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The Warlord Games Facebook page is teasing Highlanders up for pre-order tomorrow.

Well, technically, the announced pre-order date is 364 days ago...

   
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Two new sets of troops on pre-order. As mentioned above, the Highlanders are available for pre-order. And on the French side, you can now pre-order the Guard. The default is the Old Guard, but there's a head option to make them Middle Guard.

Two bundles. One is three Guard boxes. The other is two Guard boxes, and one Highlander box.
   
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I think I will grab the two guard and one highlander bundle (or pick up the same with a better discount elsewhere). Shame you get so few skirmishing rifles as would have ideally liked more but one box gets you all the Highlanders you need for Waterloo.
   
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i thought the Prussian's would of been out before the expansions to the British & French

So you can actually waterloo (The whole point & name of the game)

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I think they are designed for Black Powder?

How hard are these games to play? Id be interested but only if its very simplified....id be playing against my old man and I dont have the brain capacity for more rule sets in my brain
   
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Black Powder is a more detailed rules set so it can cover all kinds of armies and battles during the 200 year time frame it covers
so there are a lot of things you may not need or need to adjust to your liking (most common house rule I have seen is to cut down units sizes to play games in normal sized tables or to give easier access for people who started with different rules)

it plays good though and if you don't want to work out your own army lists, the 100 days campaign book comes in handy to play Waterloo

for a more simplified and dynamic set of rules, I recommend Lasalle from Sam Mustafa over BP.

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VAYASEN wrote:
I think they are designed for Black Powder?

How hard are these games to play? Id be interested but only if its very simplified....id be playing against my old man and I dont have the brain capacity for more rule sets in my brain


It's pretty simple. I've seen people play it at conventions who hadn't played it before and they do fine. The most complicated and unusual part is the command phase. You have leaders who can issue an order to a unit or group of units (if they are close together). You state the orders out loud, and it's intended you do it somewhat "in character", or similar to how the order would actually be stated. For example, "the 59th Massachusetts will march to the crest of the hill and deploy into line", rather than "this unit will move 10 inches forward". Then you take a command roll, which might result in the unit or group getting to move zero, 1, 2, or 3 times. So you won't know until you roll if they will reach their destination or not, or they may not move at all that turn.

Then you shoot. Each unit shoots the nearest enemy for the most part. You roll the units number of shooting dice (usually 3 for regular sided units) and hit on 4+ (with a few possible modifiers, like +1 for very close range). For each hit, the target makes a save on their morale value, with a few modifiers. Anything not saved causes damage. Once you reach your stamina value (usually 3) in damage points you are shaken, and get -1 to hit. Any damage beyond your stamina and you take a break test, which could result in standing your ground, falling back, or fleeing the battle entirely and being removed. You can give rally orders with your commanders in the command phase to remove a point of damage.

Combat is similar to shooting, except you roll more dice (usually 6) and both sides fight. The loser always takes a break test, so it can be more conclusive than shooting. That's the basics. But units can have special abilities to make them more different, like being ferocious and getting re-rolls to hit when charging, or being sharpshooters and getting to re-roll 1s to hit when shooting, or lots of other things like that. Because the stats are pretty standard for units, any major difference comes from these abilities, so there is stuff to remember there.
   
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 rockgod2304 wrote:
i thought the Prussian's would of been out before the expansions to the British & French

So you can actually waterloo (The whole point & name of the game)


The scale isn't really appropriate for playing the full battle. Each unit (a collection of generally up to five bases, with twenty figures on each base) represents a regiment. So you're not going to be depicting the full battlefield unless you have a *very* large table.
   
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you can always go town to 1 base = 1 batallion or even 1 base = 1 brigade for the larger scale of Waterloo

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The main barrier is unit frontages really, once they're in line these units take up a similar frontage in mm as larger scale figures do. People are taller than they are wide. You're fitting an extra unit or two in a battle line on a 6x4 table but it isn't a huge difference. Even in columns, these units are only about half the width of the equivalent 28mm units, so they're a good bit more maneuverable but you're fighting in line most of the time.


Hoping for my preorder to get dispatched this week - it came into stock then went out again at the retailer I went with so a bit sus
   
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I'd just make the standard sized unit 3 of these Epic bases instead of 5.
   
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 kodos wrote:
but unlike ACW and Napoleonic, WW2 is already available in all kind of scales

going their epic scale and people just use 1/144, going close to 18mm and people use 1/72

and the new rules/campaigns will be interesting, I hope they don't focus just on specific battles


Uh, what? ACW and Napoleonic are widely available in pretty much every scale imaginable, 2mm, 3mm, 6mm, 10mm, 12mm, 15mm, 18mm, 20mm, 25mm, 28mm, not so sure about 32/35mm options, but 54mm is definitely on the table.

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I am only know 28mm and 1/72 in plastic, except the 15mm from Warlord now and some 54mm famous troops

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Battlefront has a huge range of 15mm plastics, and PSC has a fairly large 15mm plastic range as well.

But thats besides the point because nobody (including yourself) ever specified we were discussing plastic minis in this context.

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chaos0xomega wrote:
Battlefront has a huge range of 15mm plastics, and PSC has a fairly large 15mm plastic range as well.
But thats besides the point because nobody (including yourself) ever specified we were discussing plastic minis in this context.


the context was that releasing a new 13mm WW2 epic range from Warlord (which is plastic) makes no sence as the market is flushed with such minis already
while there are not that many for Napoleonics and ACW (and I haven't seen any from PSC or BF), while Warlord messed the ACW range up by having just a generic infantry range and resin cavalry which is more expensive than metal models from other companies

in that context (as I also mentioned the WW2 plastic manufacturer which do a small 12-15mm scale), it should be clear that we talk about hard plastic minis (of course I should have been clearer)

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More news from the podcast Warlord Games posted this week (thanks to facebook group for posting) -

• Prussians in 2-3 months
• Generals coming in resin
• French Imperial Guard Cavalry coming in resin

Also, interestingly, they are going to redo some of the metal ACW epic range in plastic.
   
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Aeneades wrote:
More news from the podcast Warlord Games posted this week (thanks to facebook group for posting) -

• Prussians in 2-3 months
• Generals coming in resin
• French Imperial Guard Cavalry coming in resin

Also, interestingly, they are going to redo some of the metal ACW epic range in plastic.


metal? I haven't bought anything other than the plastic kits, but I thought the others were resin?

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chaos0xomega wrote:
Aeneades wrote:
More news from the podcast Warlord Games posted this week (thanks to facebook group for posting) -

• Prussians in 2-3 months
• Generals coming in resin
• French Imperial Guard Cavalry coming in resin

Also, interestingly, they are going to redo some of the metal ACW epic range in plastic.


metal? I haven't bought anything other than the plastic kits, but I thought the others were resin?


They were advertised as being in metal but the first production run was in resin (they stuck a little resin sticker on the pack as the contents said metal models). No idea why they did the first release as resin but when they restocked they were produced in metal as originally planned -

https://store.warlordgames.com/collections/epic-battles-american-civil-war/products/epic-battles-american-civil-war-zouaves-regiments

https://store.warlordgames.com/collections/epic-battles-american-civil-war/products/epic-battles-american-civil-war-dismounted-cavalry

https://store.warlordgames.com/collections/epic-battles-american-civil-war/products/epic-battles-american-civil-war-union-command

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oh interesting. I guess I'll wait for the plastic redos then. I was happy to buy them in resin... not so much in metal.

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i wonder if they were trying Siocast resin (perhaps with a borrowed machine but have found it's not working as well as they hoped so returned it and went back to metal as originally planned?)


 
   
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I have got hold of some French infantry from the cover of Wargames Illustrated (which has a bunch of features on the game in there too). Lovely little minis, not massive amounts of detail but I can imagine them being pretty easy to paint in a couple of steps and they look quite adequate for their purpose.

Has anyone gone 'all in' for this one, with both British and French, or are people just collecting a single boxset?


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 Pacific wrote:
I have got hold of some French infantry from the cover of Wargames Illustrated (which has a bunch of features on the game in there too). Lovely little minis, not massive amounts of detail but I can imagine them being pretty easy to paint in a couple of steps and they look quite adequate for their purpose.

Has anyone gone 'all in' for this one, with both British and French, or are people just collecting a single boxset?



I finally received my two starters plus the two Sarissa scenery sets (I preordered em a while back but was too lazy/busy to get to the store where I ordered em until yesterday). Holy crap, they're awesome. Giant boxes just chock full of stuff. Models look perfectly designed - in that they have nice bold features which will make painting them very easy (judging from the Napoleonic fb group, people are painting 'em en masse quickly so looking forward to some batch painting). Lots more sculpt variety; much better than the ACW stuff. Pretty stoked, and I'm going to be insta buying at least one of every box that comes out. I love the Black Powder Napoleonic small format softcover rulebook; I wasn't really paying attention to this during the previews and it turns out that instead of just a mini BP rulebook we get a nice redesigned and re-edited Naps-only book to only include the relevant stuff for Napoleonics and all examples/etc use the new models/basing. They even ported over the "matched play, points-based, army list construction" stuff from the older supplements for the armies in case you just want to do an ahistorical battle. My biggest complaint is that my expensive Hougoumont scenery set doesn't have a corresponding scenario to use it, necessitating me to grab the Albion Triumphant Vol 2 book from my bookshelf. (strangely, 2/3 of the scenarios from Albion Triumphant vol 2 are included in the new book, along with several new scenarios... but not the Hougomont scenario. Thanks, Warlord).

Anyways, quite pleased with the purchase.

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Glad you are happy with the purchase

For the next wave of expansions, it seems like the optimum number of copies is 1 Highlanders and 2 Imperial Guard (Warlord are even bundling them up like this on the webstore).

Only downside is that you don’t get a lot of Skirmishing 95th Rifles.

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Prussian Landwehr got a tease today on Facebook, with a partial shot of a sprue.

https://m.facebook.com/warlordgames/photos/a.123013178038/10157537733803039/?type=3&m_entstream_source=timeline&anchor_reactions=true

Also, in the comments someone asked about plastic ACW cavalry, and the response was basically, "Check back soon!"

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The Prussians are up on pre-order.

https://us.warlordgames.com/collections/epic-battles-waterloo/prussians?sort_by=created-ascending

Infantry, cavalry, and landswher are all available, as is a version of the starter that's filled with Prussian troops instead of French or British. For the ambitious, there are also combo boxes, including one rather pricey juggernaut that has everything released to date.
   
 
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