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 Kanluwen wrote:

Personally, I'm pleased that GW fixed the Cadian Shock Troops Kit to actually allow for all the options the unit has for the first time in forever. You can't ask for more than a kit that actually allows all the unit's options without being a totally bloated mess of bits.

They didn't. There's still no Heavy Weapon Team.

OK, we could have asked for a new Cadian kit that did that all with more dynamic and better proportioned models

There's one coming, by all reliable accounts.

The Heavy Weapons Team is a separate kit, so not really a problem.

I find it highly questionable that they would produce the upgrade sprue and turn turn around and make a brand new kit. But then again, there is the new Ork Boyz kit sitting alongside the old kit.

They sell Heavy Weapons Squads, which are a unit in and of themselves. Also: you just have to look at the Brood-Brothers box, which literally includes the Heavy Weapon Team in it. DKoK+Cadians do not. It's a big part of why I've been so annoying in speculating there will be a big shift coming for Guard.

FWIW, there's a rumor that there was going to be a Cadian Kill-Team rather than the Death Korps. Death Korps were ready to go first though. Makes a kind of sense, given that there's a Cadian update in the Octarius Warzone books.

The upgrade sprue for the Cadians definitely feels like it is meant to accompany a new kit not the old one.

 jeff white wrote:
Simple poll.

Some kits being rotated out and the ensuing discussion(S) here had me wondering, do people prefer a model specific to a role or kits that allow customisation and thus one kit can play multiple roles. For example, the rune priest. Would you prefer a special model for this character, or a kit that might make a rune priest or a different character depending on load out and possible back banner decal and so on?

I expect a clear result in one direction, but may be surprised. Given the plastic medium, I expect that GW might ge able to go either way. Without comment on the obvious, which would you prefer?

In general, the more options the better. The classic space marine kits are easily my favorite of all time. They all had a myriad of additional options and tac/assauly/devs all used the same torso, so you could swap your leftovers in between the various kits.

HOWEVER, I dislike it when it's a blatant attempt to get more money for less functional product. A great example of this is the Tau Fire Warrior kit.

Both the Breachers and Strike Teams come in the same kit and have unique heads, shoulder pads, backpacks, arms, and weapons in this kits as well as a myriad of other odds and sods. With the inclusion of 10 more torsos, 6 (if I recall correctly) more legs, and 8 tiny little ear piece com links, you could make a full 10 other models at a fraction of the additional plastic. I would even take this if they sold it as a upgrade sprue and tacked on an extra five-ten bucks to get twice the number of models. Yeah you would have to want both teams, but they are the bread and butter Tau infantry, most people need both.

Tawnis, that is insightful, and agreed… value for money is strictly contrary to the business model it seems.

 Tawnis wrote:
Both the Breachers and Strike Teams come in the same kit and have unique heads, shoulder pads, backpacks, arms, and weapons in this kits as well as a myriad of other odds and sods. With the inclusion of 10 more torsos, 6 (if I recall correctly) more legs, and 8 tiny little ear piece com links, you could make a full 10 other models at a fraction of the additional plastic. I would even take this if they sold it as a upgrade sprue and tacked on an extra five-ten bucks to get twice the number of models. Yeah you would have to want both teams, but they are the bread and butter Tau infantry, most people need both.

That is a very annoying thing. I know that you can make 3 Carnifexes out of every Carnifex kit if you can somehow get hold of two extra torsos and legs (GW used to sell that sprue!). I have 12 plastic Carnifxes, and I know that I never bought that many.

It's why kits like this and this are great.

Those kits look effing great! Holy moly... I did not realise things like this were even available.

 jeff white wrote:
Tawnis, that is insightful, and agreed… value for money is strictly contrary to the business model it seems.

It's odd, it almost feels like they have more than one department making the call for how these are done, because not every kits seems to end up this way, even now. For example, putting aside how overpriced the Hvy Intercessors are as a kit (as that is a whole other issue), the actual kit itself if very smartly designed. Each of the weapon variations are determined by a cartridge that slots into the weapon itself, it hooks into the model so it stays in pretty well without glue. This means that while you only have 5 bodies, you can freely swap between any of the weapon options at your leisure without having to buy more models.


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 jeff white wrote:
Those kits look effing great! Holy moly... I did not realise things like this were even available.

Yeah they are really nice. They don't exactly fit in with the existing arms, but they are very close, a little work with a hobby knife and maybe a touch of green stuff and you should be golden. I've gotten a few of their models before, they make some nice stuff for full models too: https://wargameexclusive.com/shop/greater-good/greater-good-wild-hunter/ https://wargameexclusive.com/shop/greater-good/greater-good-etherea/ https://wargameexclusive.com/shop/necrocyborgs/necrocyborg-grim-reaper-28mm/ https://wargameexclusive.com/shop/imperial-soldiers/imperial-female-brave-commissar/

That commissar is epic.

 jeff white wrote:
That commissar is epic.

Her scale is very slightly smaller than that of the standard guardsman and it is a little noticeable when they are side by side. That being said, she is elevated on that wreck which helps height wise at least. I just consider her a petite badass.

I like that different models are different statures. I have some old metal marines that I use with newer models and old eldar warriors that I use with newer ones and so on, not so much different but it is normal for different people to be different sizes. I would use numarines as og marines if they weren’t incompatible by design. The new sisters are bigger than old metals so I mixed the units with basing and painting to unify them. Look great imho. Petite badass is right then!