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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
If by "really fortunate" you just mean average.
Have you considered that nazi encounters are actually a rare and unfortunate occurrence rather than the standard?

Like shark attacks. Not everyone who swims get eaten by a shark. But when they do happen, it gets everyone's attention.

Actual flag-waving Nazis are relatively rare, although remember that one of the major community "personalities" was a shameless white supremacist and it took years for people to finally acknowledge it and stop saying "but he has such good lore videos". And what's far more common is obnoxious racists, sexists, etc. It's the kind of people who joke about raping SoB to death with a power fist or "just ask questions" about why black people are so much more violent, etc.

Andykp wrote:
As for the setting. The main faction literally do not tolerate and will kick or eliminate anyone or anything that goes against what they demand of them. They have a policy of genocide of anyone who’s not towing the line.

The setting isn’t inclusive.

These two things don't follow from each other. The Imperium is portrayed as *wrong* about, well, just about everything.


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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Define "inclusive".

In that the setting doesn't take the objective tack that people (in this case physically disabled people) are objectively lesser than those who aren't physically disabled. This doesn't necessarily match up with whether or not characters in the setting believe that, though.

CadianSgtBob wrote:

RealAndTrue wrote:

FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
I think you can point to several threads on this forum where it clearly shows the inclusiveness problem is not in the game, but in the player base.

Until we don't let literal nazi's participate in Tournaments, and literal White Supremacists have GW sanctioned Influencer status, all the female Custodes and Brown skinned IG Colonels won't make a spit of difference.

So, here's the deal. We are going to fight against all forms of Communism and Leftism. You sound like some BLM or Antifa supporter, and we aren't going to EVER tolerate those kinds of players in our community. At our shop, we ran several of those types off, and we will continue to do so. That's just how it is.

Two posts, both idiotic right-wing trolling, nothing to say about gaming. I hope your main account also gets banned.

So, your solution to people fighting back against literal enemies of the state is to ban them? Imagine thinking that will solve anything or do anything other than radicalize even more people against the Left. Imagine how naive a person must be to think that. That's why it's a war, I suppose. 40k is not meant to be inclusive. This entire thread is cancer.

a_typical_hero wrote:
While the fine print is left to each planetary governor, the Imperial Creed itself is pretty open to anything that can be considered a stable human.

Nah, people who are born with a cleft lip or whatever are killed at birth, as per policy. The Imperium is a big fan of infanticide.


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steelhead177th wrote:
you know you have to be a part of the National Socialist party to be an actual Not zi. That word doesn't mean whatever you want it to. You don't seem to understand what a white supprems is either. Every person has an ingroup preference. That is part of being human. You don't get to sling mud at people because their's is different then yours.

No, not everyone instinctively hates people who are different from them. That's a unique moral deficiency to *you*.


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a_typical_hero wrote:

This discussion is about the setting, not the models. There is no official lore to my knowledge that forbids any fit human to join the Guard, regardless of gender, orientation, skin, ... and so on.

Individual planets might, though. Like the Vostroyans only send men, there are planets mentioned in the IG codex that only send women, etc.


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CadianSgtBob wrote:


More than that. A TO doesn't make that kind of ruling without trusting that the community will back them and it won't be an instant death sentence to their ability to run future events. And Nazi dude doesn't show up wearing Nazi symbols unless he feels safe at the event instead of worrying about getting a well-deserved beating behind the store while the cameras all happen to be down for maintenance.

That kind of gak definitely wouldn't fly in the US; Spain obviously has a more complicated history with fascism than the US does.


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FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
Totenkomph on the Imperial Knight by Reece

Death's head isn't a Nazi symbol though?


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RealAndTrue wrote:

So, here's the deal. We are going to fight against all forms of Communism and Leftism. You sound like some BLM or Antifa supporter, and we aren't going to EVER tolerate those kinds of players in our community. At our shop, we ran several of those types off, and we will continue to do so. That's just how it is.

#thathappened


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RealAndTrue wrote:

So, your solution to people fighting back against literal enemies of the state is to ban them? Imagine thinking that will solve anything or do anything other than radicalize even more people against the Left. Imagine how naive a person must be to think that. That's why it's a war, I suppose. 40k is not meant to be inclusive. This entire thread is cancer.

"Literal armies of the state"? Isn't that every army? Are you stupid or are you just high?

That's a bit on the nose, Hecaton. I appreciate the sentiment though.

RealAndTrue wrote:
So, your solution to people fighting back against literal enemies of the state is to ban them? Imagine thinking that will solve anything or do anything other than radicalize even more people against the Left. Imagine how naive a person must be to think that. That's why it's a war, I suppose. 40k is not meant to be inclusive. This entire thread is cancer.

You are either delusional or trolling and I hope your main account gets banned too.

CadianSgtBob wrote:

RealAndTrue wrote:
So, your solution to people fighting back against literal enemies of the state is to ban them? Imagine thinking that will solve anything or do anything other than radicalize even more people against the Left. Imagine how naive a person must be to think that. That's why it's a war, I suppose. 40k is not meant to be inclusive. This entire thread is cancer.

You are either delusional or trolling and I hope your main account gets banned too.

You reported it as a sock puppet account, right? I think mods can look at IPs. We should probably contact one of the them directly.

I feel pity if you get hurt reading the truth. That must make existence hard and miserable, more then it already is.

Ingroup preferences are all across the board, race, creed, colour and it seems that there are some who's eyes are deliberately closed.

Gatekeeping troublesome individuals who cause nothing but strife and division is the only way.

Read some history, if you dare. Learn if you can.

Thank you for proving me correct by your actions. Thank you for advocating for social violence. ❤️

steelhead177th wrote:


I feel pity if you get hurt reading the truth. That must make existence hard and miserable, more then it already is.

Ingroup preferences are all across the board, race, creed, colour and it seems that there are some who's eyes are deliberately closed.

Gatekeeping troublesome individuals who cause nothing but strife and division is the only way.

Read some history, if you dare. Learn if you can.

Thank you for proving me correct by your actions. Thank you for advocating for social violence. ❤️

Oh look, I think we found whose sock puppet account it is.

PS: you can still GTFO with your transphobia and Nazi apologism, you are not welcome in this community.

Guys, please. Enough with the off topic stuff.
If you disagree that strongly with a poster, report it to a mod via the yellow button to your right.

I did so hopefully the thread gets cleaned up.

Hecaton wrote:
Nah, people who are born with a cleft lip or whatever are killed at birth, as per policy. The Imperium is a big fan of infanticide.

Is there a source for this?

Hecaton wrote:

a_typical_hero wrote:
While the fine print is left to each planetary governor, the Imperial Creed itself is pretty open to anything that can be considered a stable human.

Nah, people who are born with a cleft lip or whatever are killed at birth, as per policy. The Imperium is a big fan of infanticide.

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a_typical_hero wrote:

This discussion is about the setting, not the models. There is no official lore to my knowledge that forbids any fit human to join the Guard, regardless of gender, orientation, skin, ... and so on.

Individual planets might, though. Like the Vostroyans only send men, there are planets mentioned in the IG codex that only send women, etc.

These two things are on a planet by planet basis though. Worlds closer to the Eye (or where the Eye was, I don't remember if it's still a thing since the rift opened) might execute deformed children at birth, but backwater agri-worlds likely don't. Also as someone pointed out earlier in the thread that planetary traditions of single sex units are superseded by merging platoons to bring numbers back up. The individual planets might care about making their tithe single sex but the Guard as an organisation certainly doesn't care to respect exclusionary policies if it gets in the way of their logistics.

a_typical_hero wrote:

Is there a source for this?

Yeah, I've posted it here before - it's in the "Rogue Trader" boxed set for KT, where it goes into detail as to what mutation is. It includes people who are exposed to toxic chemicals, not just Warp energies, and it says that basically all of them are killed at birth, unless they hide (or presumably are killed by their parents).


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 Sim-Life wrote:
Worlds closer to the Eye (or where the Eye was, I don't remember if it's still a thing since the rift opened) might execute deformed children at birth, but backwater agri-worlds likely don't.

No, it's Imperium policy the galaxy through and the Arbites will enforce it if a planetary government fails to.

Hecaton wrote:

a_typical_hero wrote:

Is there a source for this?

Yeah, I've posted it here before - it's in the "Rogue Trader" boxed set for KT, where it goes into detail as to what mutation is. It includes people who are exposed to toxic chemicals, not just Warp energies, and it says that basically all of them are killed at birth, unless they hide (or presumably are killed by their parents).


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 Sim-Life wrote:
Worlds closer to the Eye (or where the Eye was, I don't remember if it's still a thing since the rift opened) might execute deformed children at birth, but backwater agri-worlds likely don't.

No, it's Imperium policy the galaxy through and the Arbites will enforce it if a planetary government fails to.

To play devil's advocate, mutations caused by exposure to toxic chemicals and mutations caused by the warp might be very similar in appearance. Due to the high risk of warp borne mutations, it may have been deemed prudent to cull those toxic mutations as well, just in case they might actually be demonic in origin.

Which is still really messed up, mind you, but you can see the logic behind it.

CadianSgtBob wrote:


Oh look, I think we found whose sock puppet account it is.

PS: you can still GTFO with your transphobia and Nazi apologism, you are not welcome in this community.

It's you who is not welcome. Cope and seethe. Imagine thinking only one person is right-wing in this hobby.

We literally threw out a few Antifa/BLM supporters from our store and banned them. We don't tolerate Leftists, here, and we never will. Want to talk about the hobby or continue this?

RealAndTrue wrote:
It's you who is not welcome. Cope and seethe. Imagine thinking only one person is right-wing in this hobby.

We literally threw out a few Antifa/BLM supporters from our store and banned them. We don't tolerate Leftists, here, and we never will. Want to talk about the hobby or continue this?

Thank you for demonstrating my points very nicely. I'll be sure to save links to your posts for the next time someone says "people like that don't really exist, everyone I've ever met behaves just fine".

CadianSgtBob wrote:

RealAndTrue wrote:
It's you who is not welcome. Cope and seethe. Imagine thinking only one person is right-wing in this hobby.

We literally threw out a few Antifa/BLM supporters from our store and banned them. We don't tolerate Leftists, here, and we never will. Want to talk about the hobby or continue this?

Thank you for demonstrating my points very nicely. I'll be sure to save links to your posts for the next time someone says "people like that don't really exist, everyone I've ever met behaves just fine".

We know all about people like you. That's why we keep a very sharp eye out.

RealAndTrue wrote:

CadianSgtBob wrote:


Oh look, I think we found whose sock puppet account it is.

PS: you can still GTFO with your transphobia and Nazi apologism, you are not welcome in this community.

It's you who is not welcome. Cope and seethe. Imagine thinking only one person is right-wing in this hobby.

We literally threw out a few Antifa/BLM supporters from our store and banned them. We don't tolerate Leftists, here, and we never will. Want to talk about the hobby or continue this?

This right here is why the 40k community is terrifying for LGBTQ2SIA+ folks.

Antifa/BLM and the group you mentioned above is why children are afraid to enter the hobby. You have it totally backward.

RealAndTrue wrote:
Antifa/BLM and the group you mentioned above is why children are afraid to enter the hobby. You have it totally backward.

Who are you responding to, what group do you mean?

I actually was enjoying the thread because its an interesting discussion but thanks to all the people who can't separate fiction from reality for gaking it up. I'm sure it'll be locked when a mod finally wakes up.

RealAndTrue wrote:
We know all about people like you. That's why we keep a very sharp eye out.

Oh noes, what will you do with that eye? Am I supposed to be afraid of 13 year old 4chan posters and a bunch of military LARPers who are too fat to get their gear to fit properly? Or are you just going to turn your local store into a toxic hellscape and drive all the normal people out?

 Sim-Life wrote:
I actually was enjoying the thread because its an interesting discussion but thanks to all the people who can't separate fiction from reality for gaking it up. I'm sure it'll be locked when a mod finally wakes up.

Let's hope so. Like I said, this thread is cancer.

Some people really want a war. That's why we don't tolerate those kinds here. We take care of them.

RealAndTrue wrote:

 Sim-Life wrote:
I actually was enjoying the thread because its an interesting discussion but thanks to all the people who can't separate fiction from reality for gaking it up. I'm sure it'll be locked when a mod finally wakes up.

Let's hope so. Like I said, this thread is cancer.

Some people really want a war. That's why we don't tolerate those kinds here. We take care of them.

*Has cancer*
This thread isn't cancer, it's shedding light on the cancerous members of the community.

RealAndTrue wrote:
Mommy says I'm too fat to join the army so I LARP about it on the internet.

Cool story bro.

 Blndmage wrote:

RealAndTrue wrote:

 Sim-Life wrote:
I actually was enjoying the thread because its an interesting discussion but thanks to all the people who can't separate fiction from reality for gaking it up. I'm sure it'll be locked when a mod finally wakes up.

Let's hope so. Like I said, this thread is cancer.

Some people really want a war. That's why we don't tolerate those kinds here. We take care of them.

*Has cancer*
This thread isn't cancer, it's shedding light on the cancerous members of the community.

No, it's what I said the first time. This thread is cancer and exposes all the crazy Leftists we have already defeated and will continue to defeat. It's what we do.

RealAndTrue wrote:
I screamed a racial slur at a communist on CoD once! Maybe mommy will buy me the next CoD for my 14th birthday so I can fight more leftists!

Cool story bro.

CadianSgtBob wrote:

RealAndTrue wrote:
I screamed a racial slur at a communist on CoD once! Maybe mommy will buy me the next CoD for my 14th birthday so I can fight more leftists!

Cool story bro.

Imagine being you.

RealAndTrue wrote:

 Blndmage wrote:

RealAndTrue wrote:

 Sim-Life wrote:
I actually was enjoying the thread because its an interesting discussion but thanks to all the people who can't separate fiction from reality for gaking it up. I'm sure it'll be locked when a mod finally wakes up.

Let's hope so. Like I said, this thread is cancer.

Some people really want a war. That's why we don't tolerate those kinds here. We take care of them.

*Has cancer*
This thread isn't cancer, it's shedding light on the cancerous members of the community.

No, it's what I said the first time. This thread is cancer and exposes all the crazy Leftists we have already defeated and will continue to defeat. It's what we do.

You literally just proved my point.
You are cancerous.

 Blndmage wrote:

RealAndTrue wrote:

 Blndmage wrote:

RealAndTrue wrote:

 Sim-Life wrote:
I actually was enjoying the thread because its an interesting discussion but thanks to all the people who can't separate fiction from reality for gaking it up. I'm sure it'll be locked when a mod finally wakes up.

Let's hope so. Like I said, this thread is cancer.

Some people really want a war. That's why we don't tolerate those kinds here. We take care of them.

*Has cancer*
This thread isn't cancer, it's shedding light on the cancerous members of the community.

No, it's what I said the first time. This thread is cancer and exposes all the crazy Leftists we have already defeated and will continue to defeat. It's what we do.

You literally just proved my point.
You are cancerous.

I'm not the one who needs to use pronouns in my bio to prove what gender I am.

RealAndTrue wrote:
I don't need pronouns! Mommy says my dick is cute so anyone who says I'm not a man is a lying antifa BLM troll.

Cool story bro.

But seriously, you really need to spend less time LARPing on 4chan and more time learning to be a functioning adult. Nobody in the real world is impressed by your empty boasting.