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 ZergSmasher wrote:
I dunno, I kind of like them for how over-the-top ridiculous they are. Keep in mind that Space Marines is the faction with aircraft like the Stormraven, probably the least aerodynamic flying thing in the game. Realism is best checked at the door when doing anything related to 40k.

I'm absolutely gonna get that set. Dark Angels probably don't need any of what's in there, but I still want it. I'll probably split the other box too because I want the new Azrael and I totally need more Intercessors (not) and Deathwing (actually I probably do need more of these now lol).

There’s a really old piece of fluff about flight being lost when Terra descended into techno-barbarism and the Emperor brought it back. Also airfoils are not needed for lift when they are equipped with antigravity generators like the land speeders.
Which is a nice way of saying that they are so ugly the earth naturally repels them.

If I leaned one thing from aerospace engineering it's that anything can be a wing with the correct angle of attack and high enough speed. (Some constraints have been ignored in this statement)

Any news on the price of the box sets that go on preorder this week?

Brickfix wrote:
If I leaned one thing from aerospace engineering it's that anything can be a wing with the correct angle of attack and high enough speed. (Some constraints have been ignored in this statement)

Any news on the price of the box sets that go on preorder this week?

beast_gts wrote:
"Boarding Patrol: Space Marines" is up for pre-order this weekend, and is £65 for £101.50 worth of stuff.

("Balefleet Battleforce" is also going up at £130 for £201 worth of Chaos)

Thank you, i have missed that info

Anyone know if Boarding Patrols are quantity / time-limited?

JWBS wrote:
Anyone know if Boarding Patrols are quantity / time-limited?

There's an assumption that they're a splash release to tie in with Arks of Omen, but hopefully they'll stay around.

JWBS wrote:
Anyone know if Boarding Patrols are quantity / time-limited?

The Space Marine Boarding Patrol set was certainly time limited, it had sold out everywhere that I looked online by 10:02.

I was on the Element site at 10:00 and it appeared on their site straight away as No Longer Available.

I knew that I'd have to be quick to nab one, but this is a joke. It's not like the contents were limited, GW seem to have just severely limited the production.

It's really, really frustrating.

At least I managed to grab the Chaos box set

EDIT: I'm talking about online discounters, I haven't even checked the GW site

On the GW's online store the Primaris boarding patrol box is marked while stock lasts, while the big Chaos Marine box is not. Let's see what that means for availability of the Chaos box.

Shame that if you want the Primaris you'll need a good bit of luck. When the one with Abaddon comes out I assume the same will be true there.

I don't really understand why they limit the quantities so much, they must understand the demand by now.

It's almost as though they want buyers to be disappointed.

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
I don't really understand why they limit the quantities so much, they must understand the demand by now.

It's almost as though they want buyers to be disappointed.

FOMO and clearing out stock, keeps it simple. Disappointed customers are only a problem if they stop buying all together.

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
I don't really understand why they limit the quantities so much, they must understand the demand by now.

It's almost as though they want buyers to be disappointed.

My guess is that somebody, somewhere in their structure has some success threshold for bonuses etc. that is a variation of 'profit/earnings per SKU' or 'percentage of SKU sold' and is no gambling to optimize that measure instead of looking at fundamentals or overall health of the product range. It happens from time to time - Goodhart's Law is an easy trap to fall into, especially for middle management.

Apple fox wrote:

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
I don't really understand why they limit the quantities so much, they must understand the demand by now.

It's almost as though they want buyers to be disappointed.

FOMO and clearing out stock, keeps it simple. Disappointed customers are only a problem if they stop buying all together.

How do you clear out stock by casting more sprues? You do know gw casts sprues specfically for these don't you?

tneva82 wrote:

Apple fox wrote:

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
I don't really understand why they limit the quantities so much, they must understand the demand by now.

It's almost as though they want buyers to be disappointed.

FOMO and clearing out stock, keeps it simple. Disappointed customers are only a problem if they stop buying all together.

How do you clear out stock by casting more sprues? You do know gw casts sprues specfically for these don't you?

Yes, but every one that they don't sell takes up space. It's shortsighted, but selling 100% of available stock can be seen as a success by some people.

 Shakalooloo wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

Apple fox wrote:

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
I don't really understand why they limit the quantities so much, they must understand the demand by now.

It's almost as though they want buyers to be disappointed.

FOMO and clearing out stock, keeps it simple. Disappointed customers are only a problem if they stop buying all together.

How do you clear out stock by casting more sprues? You do know gw casts sprues specfically for these don't you?

Yes, but every one that they don't sell takes up space. It's shortsighted, but selling 100% of available stock can be seen as a success by some people.

Especially when it is not meant as a permanent addition to the range, but an impulse buy.

Also, if you short stock you don’t create too much discount on the secondhand market for items not wanted in any box.

The standard stock is priced for how much they sell over time, and stocked for it as well.
Both can be successful.

Strike Force: Space Marine's Silliest Weapons (So Far) goes up for pre-order next weekend, alongside the CSM and Tyranid Boarding Patrol boxes.

Quiet week for releases.

Wish they’d tacked the Cerberus on. I wants a Cerberus. Or two.

Can't be busy every week. But yeah bit quieter than usual but with 10th ed looming ahead not much to be expected 40k side untill that.

New dread and Missile fellas kits in a new box set its still quite a bit.

I think it may be an enforced quiet week due to the ongoing Warehouse issues? My local Warhammer store did not get its World Eater new releases until Thursday and had none of the new releases in for this past Saturday. If it is impacting your own brick and mortar stores like that things are not right.

I've been waiting for that abaddon and cultists box so that's exciting. I really want the new modular lieut and the new dread but not enough to buy a bundle box with stuff I don't.

I was hoping for a sigmar week to let wallets recover from guard and kill team.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Quiet week for releases.

Wish they’d tacked the Cerberus on. I wants a Cerberus. Or two.

This is pretty hilarious to me.

2 new space marine units and a multi-option commander would have gotten the internet really riled up in the past.

Now? It feels like everyone is taking a sigh of relief. People were far more excited for arbites and seraphon during the last reveals, and are looking forward to more 30k units and AoS battletomes than they are yet more space marines.

I love this shift in attitude and I hope it continues. GW will only give other factions more attention if space marines are no longer their 'bread and butter' and other things do better in sales.

drbored wrote:

2 new space marine units and a multi-option commander would have gotten the internet really riled up in the past.

Don't worry, the internets are still plenty riled up, but for all the reasons GW doesn't want.

drbored wrote:
Now? It feels like everyone is taking a sigh of relief. People were far more excited for arbites and seraphon during the last reveals, and are looking forward to more 30k units and AoS battletomes than they are yet more space marines.

It's only because these Space Marines look like silly gak. If they had instead thrown in a new unit that had a reasonable name and weapons that didn't look like toys, there would probably be more excitement about them.

drbored wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Quiet week for releases.

Wish they’d tacked the Cerberus on. I wants a Cerberus. Or two.

This is pretty hilarious to me.

2 new space marine units and a multi-option commander would have gotten the internet really riled up in the past.

Now? It feels like everyone is taking a sigh of relief. People were far more excited for arbites and seraphon during the last reveals, and are looking forward to more 30k units and AoS battletomes than they are yet more space marines.

I love this shift in attitude and I hope it continues. GW will only give other factions more attention if space marines are no longer their 'bread and butter' and other things do better in sales.

No one cares about missile launcher marines when there's a primarch and a launch box worth of new marines around the corner.

drbored wrote:

I love this shift in attitude and I hope it continues. GW will only give other factions more attention if space marines are no longer their 'bread and butter' and other things do better in sales.

I'm with you, but I'm definitely not looking forward to the hyper aggressive phase if Space Marines start declining in sales. GW would try anything to salvage them before moving on to another poster boy race/faction--or god forbid, take a holistic approach to the hobby.

Although I guess if we were to get female space marines, it would happen while GW is desperately trying to claw back buying customers for the smurfs.

I have 3 marine armies, Dark Angels, Raven Guard, and Deathwatch. Normally I’d be pretty stoked over new marines, but this box just is not doing it for me. Those missile marines are so bad it just makes the box an absolute no buy.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Quiet week for releases.

Quieter than you might think. We were told that we could only order items released this week or last, nothing on the backlist.

Again that speaks to some sort of move to try and get on top of the warehouse issues. Seems to me like they could do with a week or two of zero releases.