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Anpu-adom wrote:Bear in mind, I haven't finished (or played) my Necron army, but the Necrons have attracted my attention for better than 10 years of visiting my flgs.
For me, there is strength in the Necrons being without individuality. No special weapons to micro-manage, yet a depth of strategy. There is an elegance in the design of the 2nd edition Necron army... an elegance that is missing when I look at the complexity of systems of the SM, for example.

My wish and hope... that the Necrons maintain an elegance of design. Too many units and too many options destroy that IMHO.

Elegance and complexity are more hand in hand to me like simplicity and brutal. The necrons need more options and more development which would suit their fluff fine.

Mar wrote:

Anpu-adom wrote:Bear in mind, I haven't finished (or played) my Necron army, but the Necrons have attracted my attention for better than 10 years of visiting my flgs.
For me, there is strength in the Necrons being without individuality. No special weapons to micro-manage, yet a depth of strategy. There is an elegance in the design of the 2nd edition Necron army... an elegance that is missing when I look at the complexity of systems of the SM, for example.

My wish and hope... that the Necrons maintain an elegance of design. Too many units and too many options destroy that IMHO.

Elegance and complexity are more hand in hand to me like simplicity and brutal. The necrons need more options and more development which would suit their fluff fine.

Well, speaking about design (the models) Necrons are pretty minimalistic, which suits them quite beautifully in my opinion. No need for too many ornaments and decorations. Speaking about rules, well, I suppose that they do need some development.

Indeed warriors should most definitely be minimalistic and the rumour mill suggests those models will remain has they are. I think immortals are supposed to get bigger and more ornate which is ok considering I think they are meant to be the first to become necrons and higher up in the pecking order has one such example. I think images like the monolith and the horde of warriors will remain because it works, makes sense and people seem to quite like it, what I expect is an evolution of other designs and a refinement of an image that is a tad old.

There is an Admech theory in the current Necron codex that states that the "Guess" effect may be just one of many possible uses. So it might actually be fluffy for the different colored rods to have different weapon effects in game.

Holy crap the necrons sound like alot of fun.

Stonerhino wrote:There is an Admech theory in the current Necron codex that states that the "Guess" effect may be just one of many possible uses. So it might actually be fluffy for the different colored rods to have different weapon effects in game.

Posters are saying that it sucks from an aesthetics point of view, not that it doesn't make sense.

Mar wrote:

Anpu-adom wrote:Bear in mind, I haven't finished (or played) my Necron army, but the Necrons have attracted my attention for better than 10 years of visiting my flgs.
For me, there is strength in the Necrons being without individuality. No special weapons to micro-manage, yet a depth of strategy. There is an elegance in the design of the 2nd edition Necron army... an elegance that is missing when I look at the complexity of systems of the SM, for example.

My wish and hope... that the Necrons maintain an elegance of design. Too many units and too many options destroy that IMHO.

Elegance and complexity are more hand in hand to me like simplicity and brutal. The necrons need more options and more development which would suit their fluff fine.

When I think of elegance, I think (don't laugh!!!) of those Dyson vacuum cleaners. On the surface, they look simple. They don't have 'bells and whistles', but what they do have is done expertly. They do the job that they are designed too, and they do that job really well. There is a lot of engineering that goes into making each of those machines. As their recent ads point out, many other companies have begun mimicking their design but they haven't mastered the engineering. As a result, the copy-cats aren't as effective as the original.

My impression of the Necron army of old (remember, I haven't played yet so I may be completely wrong) is that the Army is more than the sum of its parts. There were no 'hero' units (unless you count the C'tan). Each piece supports and strengthens each other. Based on the battle reports I've seen, it seems that those who are winning with Necrons today have mastered that synergy of units. To me, that is elegance in game design.

Vhalyar wrote:
Posters are saying that it sucks from an aesthetics point of view, not that it doesn't make sense.

I know but it's like saying a weapon with a selecter switch should look differently when using different modes of fire.

Stonerhino wrote:

Vhalyar wrote:
Posters are saying that it sucks from an aesthetics point of view, not that it doesn't make sense.

I know but it's like saying a weapon with a selecter switch should look differently when using different modes of fire.

reminds me of an animated star trek episode, titled "The Slaver Weapon" where the weapon in the title did exactly that -- It changed how it looked every time they switched the mode of fire.

as has been stated many times. there is no backing the rumor of colored rods, it is 99.99% not happening. that .01% is my stand point of "anything can happen" but dont look to much into it, its just me.

Hello,
There is no real reason to have them be differnt colors as the overall effect would be the same, and they are built and powered by the same energy. That said I would thing of using differnt colors of rod if perhaps I wanted to designate a differnt or special weapon, as it could be a easy fix for remembering that you have one in a squad.

Regards,
Carl

If this Incoming email does show up this month or today for that matter, I fear for the comradery of those £££s in both my bank and wallet.

EDIT: As for the coloured rods, I don't see it happening, it is GW, while they produce quality kits, it's not like them to throw it all-in-one, if they do produce alternate rods they'll be to purchase seperately.

Well doesnt everyone remember Judge Dredd?(What inquisitors were originally based on)

There weapons didn't change form, even though you could change them from semi-automatic to armor-piercing ammo, just by saying which they wanted, but aside from an acknowledgment beep from the weapon it wouldn't change shape or form in any way.

Stonerhino wrote:There is an Admech theory in the current Necron codex that states that the "Guess" effect may be just one of many possible uses. So it might actually be fluffy for the different colored rods to have different weapon effects in game.

I'm fairly sure that theory was just musing that it could potentially be used for medical purposes, stip away damaged parts and rebuild them with other technology.

I dont recall it ever being said by any of the rumour posters who mentioned the coloured rods that they had a mechanical effect ghost21 claimed they had a fluff reason with each colour associated with a specific C'tan and Tabitha claimed to have not read the fluff only unit entries/wargear and said that (at least in that version) rod colour didn't effect the rules. All its been almost from the moment it was mentioned is people thinking the sky was falling "oh noes what if evil GW have made it so different colour rods have different rule effects that would be just like them"

I am pretty sure that somewhere along the course of threads ( ) someone mentioned the different colors=different effects thing (but there is no way I'm going through 40 pages of posts to find it ). And no one said the sky is falling-notice I earlier posted that in any case I would still play the Necrons. I just would object to that idea-aesthetically.

KarlPedder wrote:I dont recall it ever being said by any of the rumour posters who mentioned the coloured rods that they had a mechanical effect ghost21 claimed they had a fluff reason with each colour associated with a specific C'tan and Tabitha claimed to have not read the fluff only unit entries/wargear and said that (at least in that version) rod colour didn't effect the rules. All its been almost from the moment it was mentioned is people thinking the sky was falling "oh noes what if evil GW have made it so different colour rods have different rule effects that would be just like them"

This is the truth from what I have read here in Dakka and elsewhere.

angelshade00 wrote:I am pretty sure that somewhere along the course of threads ( ) someone mentioned the different colors=different effects thing (but there is no way I'm going through 40 pages of posts to find it ). And no one said the sky is falling-notice I earlier posted that in any case I would still play the Necrons. I just would object to that idea-aesthetically.

Indeed I think someone said they would like it if this occurred and I think me and Angelshade said we would not like it in lame man's terms

So no incoming e-mails :(
Lets all sink in desperation and have our crying heard throughout the universe... Join me nerd-ragers.....
WE WANT NECRONS!

I suppose next Monday will be just as good...
After all Necrons have waited in stasis for millions of years (and for an update almost 10) so what's a few more days or weeks compared to eternity?

Indeed I think someone said they would like it if this occurred and I think me and Angelshade said we would not like it in lame man's terms

Precisely.

angelshade00 wrote:I suppose next Monday will be just as good...
After all Necrons have waited in stasis for millions of years (and for an update almost 10) so what's a few more days or weeks compared to eternity?

I highly doubt we will see the incoming next week. History sais so. I guess we will see it in June 13 or sth arround there...
I guess another month is okay if it is to be better/more balanced..

Indeed. Sides, we all know its happening, sure Id like to know the date too, but at least we KNOW they are coming out

KingCracker wrote:Indeed. Sides, we all know its happening, sure Id like to know the date too, but at least we KNOW they are coming out

It's tahta FACT where I am holding on to

Who knows maybe the email is late today, its usually sent out with the update of the site

There were no Necron models listed with the 'Finecast' release sheet

NecronLord3 wrote:There were no Necron models listed with the 'Finecast' release sheet

Perhaps this is something to read into. Time will tell.

Mar wrote:

NecronLord3 wrote:There were no Necron models listed with the 'Finecast' release sheet

Perhaps this is something to read into. Time will tell.

I doubt it.

The Finecast release sheet likely was done explicitly with the upcoming Necrons in mind. It was also likely done in such a way that they can sell down the current stock of metal Necrons to be replaced with the resins come the new book.

NecronLord3 wrote:There were no Necron models listed with the 'Finecast' release sheet

I noticed this too, lots of Necron models were pulled back with the other metals that are now getting resin recasts. I am sure this is a good sign

Kanluwen wrote:

Mar wrote:

NecronLord3 wrote:There were no Necron models listed with the 'Finecast' release sheet

Perhaps this is something to read into. Time will tell.

I doubt it.

The Finecast release sheet likely was done explicitly with the upcoming Necrons in mind. It was also likely done in such a way that they can sell down the current stock of metal Necrons to be replaced with the resins come the new book.

Exactly what one could read into this but time will tell.

Wait... So I was right? Odd.

Ah well, at least whilst Games-workshop's other business decisions are going down the drain they're still maintaining their impressive advertising ability.

YakFace... You havent said anything for a while , i was hopin for some fresh rumors if you got any xD
Thanks for ur rumors ur awsome ^^