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The ilClan sourcebook will be available from the Catalyst Game Labs store on Friday, August 6, and through retail outlets on Wednesday, August 11.
   
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I wonder who will win?

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CatalystGameLab wrote:More printer proofs falling out of the mail: Tamar Rising. It was a huge amount of work but it was so much fun to work on the campaign map!


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I wonder who will win?
Whoever Wins...We Lose

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Was that book ever announced?

beast_gts wrote:
Whoever Wins...We Lose
I lose twice, as I play Jade Falcon.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Was that book ever announced?


Yes - State of the Game – May 2021.
   
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Oh I guess it's the first sourcebook of the IlClan Era besides the actual IlClan book.

Cool. Completely missed that one.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
beast_gts wrote:
Whoever Wins...We Lose
I lose twice, as I play Jade Falcon.
At least you're involved - I play Hell's Horses and I have no idea what we're up to.
   
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beast_gts wrote:
At least you're involved - I play Hell's Horses and I have no idea what we're up to.


Maybe it'll get covered in the Tamar Rising book? With the Jade Falcons gone, their former occupation zone is free real estate.

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Meanwhile as a Fed Suns fan, I just want New Avalon resecured from the Dracs.

Of course, I'm a fan of FWL designs, so its good to see them back together... for now.

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As a CJF fan do not even get me started on this ...

   
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Hey all,

wondering if anyone would be so kind as to help spell out the state of Battletech these days.

Always been a huge Mech fan, but haven't played tabletop since the early 2000s.

Basically these days, Catalyst Game Labs is releasing the hex based ruleset as well as Alpha Strike, which uses a TLOS (with modifications) system? Mind telling me which books are the core for rules/mech datasheets?

It seems most product is out of stock - the way to get your hands on the CGL miniatures is only through their kickstarter waves?

Thanks!!
   
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I still use all my total warfare books, as far as minis go unless you want the new plastics from catalyst ironwind metals still has all of the minis in metal in their normal onlne store and the online exclusive/archive store.


https://www.ironwindmetals.com/index.php/categories/cat-battletech

The PDF for the total warfare book is on the catalyst website and the hardcover is easy to find on ebay.

I only play classic battletech, i am not a fan of alpha strike as it looses to much of the depth i enjoy about the game.


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 Gregor Samsa wrote:
It seems most product is out of stock - the way to get your hands on the CGL miniatures is only through their kickstarter waves?
There should be a retail re-stock once wave 2 has arrived and gone out to backers (as they're all in the same containers). There's also IWM for metal mechs.

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 Gregor Samsa wrote:
Basically these days, Catalyst Game Labs is releasing the hex based ruleset as well as Alpha Strike, which uses a TLOS (with modifications) system? Mind telling me which books are the core for rules/mech datasheets?

Core books depends on how much you want to work with.

Battlemechs? Battlemech Manual.

'Mechs, Tanks, Infantry, and aircraft? Total Warfare.

Building the above? Tech Manual.

Artillery? Tactical Operations: Advanced Rules.

Alpha Strike? Alpha Strike Commander's Edition.

Besides being available in dead tree format, PDF is available in DriveThruRPG, as well as a few from the CGL site.

As a side note: Miniatures aren't required to play Battletech (but they are very nice to have). Several editions were even released with just standies for the mechs!

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 Manchu wrote:
As a CJF fan do not even get me started on this ...


Not to get you started, but for someone who hasn't followed the ilClan material, could you précis what's going on with CJF in this period?
   
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KommanderKong wrote:
 Manchu wrote:
As a CJF fan do not even get me started on this ...


Not to get you started, but for someone who hasn't followed the ilClan material, could you précis what's going on with CJF in this period?


Sarna says:

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IlClan Era
As of 3151, Clan Jade Falcon would survive the aftermath of the ilClan Trial, but in a weakened state. They now serve as a bodyguard clan vowing to protect the ilKhan and the reborn Star League under new leadership.
   
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During the Dark Age era, a character called Malvina Hazen rose through the ranks of CJF to become Khan. She earned a reputation for ruthlessly disregarding the usual moral restraints around warfare, employing terror tactics to subdue enemies and civilians alike. (In effect, she was a presented as a fairly one-dimensional main bad guy for the sake of the Dark Age novel series.) Whatever one thinks about her cruelty, Malvina was effectively cutting a path toward Terra for CJF to finally realize its position of preeminence among the Clans, to conquer the homeworld of mankind and claim the ilClanship.

But the Dark Age novel series had also spawned a typical-for-Battletech anti-heroic protagonist, a Clan Wolf character (of course!) descended from both Victor and Katherine Steiner-Davion (of coursssse!) — basically, the very definition of a Battletech Mary Sue. Alaric not only wins and becomes IlKhan and First Lord of the new(est) Star League but also transforms CJF into his personal bodyguard.

Now many CJF fans hate Malvina because they see her as going against the rigid applications of the Clan ways CJF traditionally prides itself on honoring. Others feel Malvina simply discarded the hypocrisy of her own Clan and the wider Battletech setting, doing whatever was necessary to achieve her goal. Either way, she represented the Falcons’ last best chance to achieve their most dearly cherished dream and with her defeat and death, CJF is now in the worst position imaginable — humble servants of a Wolf ilKhan.

   
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KommanderKong wrote:
Not to get you started, but for someone who hasn't followed the ilClan material, could you précis what's going on with CJF in this period?
They're dead.

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Wow.


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CJF has been my "team" since I was a ten-year old, eyes glued to the Saturday morning Battletech Cartoon show. I was obsessed, never missed an episode... used to stomp around my backyard after every episode pretending to be a Mech. That show got me through the uncomfortable adjustment period of my parents' divorce, when I stayed with my dad in his new place on the weekends. Then I was obsessed with Mechwarrior 2 when that came out a year or two later... played both campaigns to completion multiple times but I was a dyed in the wool Falcon. I was into Battletech through these media before any other gaming hobby ever came around.

I don't go in for modern Battletech... preferring the older material... but this has actually kind of killed my interest for the moment. What a buzzkill... CJF is Btech for me.

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That's the great thing about CBT-you can play any era

We mostly play 3050-3085, that being said most of the units i play didn't fair well after the jihad
.second swords of light-half went traitor and the loyalists were rebuilt as the 4th
.2nd deiron regulars-effectively destroyed
10th lyran guards-effectively destroyed


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Yeah I've been CJF ever since Mechwarrior 2. Sad to see 'em got all blowed up!

And yeah, my DC force has always been the 2nd Sword, so them not existing is also cool.

Katrina tried to get my 1st Davion Guards, but she failed there!

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I've been a proud citizen of the CC since I bought the 2ed game box back in 1991, hanging there like little cucarachas in the middle of a nuclear storm is exhilarating.
Unfortunately on the clan side my Diamond Sharks went crazy, but as it's all after the Jihad I mostly ignore whatever goes for a timeline and keep my own post 3063 headcanon that it's like a 3rd SW but with more toys.

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 aphyon wrote:
That's the great thing about CBT-you can play any era


For some people, the idea of a pre-destined narrative makes engaging with a setting outside of the "current" timeline difficult. I.E. "whats the point playing/reading/engaging in the fluff set 50 years prior if I know that its going to eventually end badly for my favorite characters".

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That's like saying you can't watch Titanic because you already know the boat sinks.

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KommanderKong wrote:
but this has actually kind of killed my interest for the moment. What a buzzkill...
Keep in mind that few things are more CJF than hating Clan Wolf. And the outcome of the ilClan Trial really divides us into those who are willing to give it up for the sake of some domesticated sense of “honor” and those whose hatred of Clan Wolf goes back to Nicholas snubbing CJF and will never, ever die until Clan Wolf itself is truly humbled. For the former, they will content themselves with cosplaying the Star League-era Blackwatch. But Malvina’s vision was not some accident; her rage and pain go to the core of Jade Falcon psychology, and those wounds won’t heal serving Alaric. Don’t count out CJF just yet! The true spirit might yet persist.

   
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Acting as the Blackwatch.

There are worse groups to emulate, that's for sure.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
That's like saying you can't watch Titanic because you already know the boat sinks.


I know its silly, but that doesn't change the fact that some people have that mindset. I know people whos attitudes towards the Star Wars prequels and The Clone Wars, for example, is essentially "whats the point, we already know how that part of the story turns out".

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those are the people who never read a book (or watch a movie) twice
and they miss a lot of fun with that (like my wife)

it is a legit point, but just knowing what is going to happen is only a third of the story and for some people the how and why, is more important

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Acting as the Blackwatch.
There are worse groups to emulate, that's for sure.


Isn't one of the founders of CJF a former Blackwatch Officer from the Armaris Civil War?
back to the roots

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Elizabeth Hazen was the founder and first Khan of CFJ and she was a member of the Blackwatch. A very dangerous member of the Blackwatch.

Only reason she didn't kill Stefan Amaris personally is because Kerensky told her not to.

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