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 AduroT wrote:
I don’t think killing Kang actually caused the timeline fracture. It wasn’t Kang out there personally culling timelines after all. At that point the TVA was already in chaos and had stopped doing their thing thanks to Mobius and the other agent lady, and that would have allowed the naturally occurring timelines splits to mature.


I agree. There's a weird moment of a profound shift (and thunder) where he tells them that threshold has been crossed, and what he 'knows' is no longer valid. I was honestly expecting Renslayer to burst in at that point, but they just keep talking. Then the confrontation happens, and things ensue.

But in the moment it seemed like things started branching before (there's a window on the energy stream that is theoretically the pruned timeline) all the decisions get made in the room.

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Jameela Jamil has confirmed she's playing Titania in the new She Hulk show.

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 Azreal13 wrote:
Jameela Jamil has confirmed she's playing Titania in the new She Hulk show.


but she's the wrong kind of tall and shapely or something, lummy this hot is playing havoc with my kneejerk

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So I wrapped up Loki. I stayed away from conversations about it, reviews, etc. And I may be drawing dotted lines where none were intended, but I felt like there's a fun, self-deprecating metacommentary going on with it. You have a precious storyline that's defended aggressively by a powerful, conformist, controlling organization that's headed by one regular dude pulling all the strings. Sounds...familiar?

I felt like they were having fun with that -- and with the whole 'you're in for it now' mood after the multiverse was (re)born -- and that's pretty cool.

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I've read/seen a few articles that talk about it as a piece of meta fiction so you are not alone. If you are feeling alone you can ask for a hug.

But not from me. I'm not a hugger.

Ask Frazzled he seems like a cuddly, friendly sort.

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And they’ve confirmed the Ms Marvel and Hawkeye series will air before the end of the year.

 
   
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It’s Wednesday morning.

And there is no Loki.

Sans Loki.

Sans Chin.

Sans Arm.

Sans Jelly

Sans…..everything.

What is to become of me?

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It’s Wednesday morning.

And there is no Loki.

Sans Loki.

Sans Chin.

Sans Arm.

Sans Jelly

Sans…..everything.

What is to become of me?


Is there another another season of "Docs ancient comedy references" in the pipeline ?

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*looks at feet*

No.

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Just over a week until What If? lands.

Got to admit, I’m sceptical on this one. I can be put off animation really easily (just a quirk of mine), depending on the art style and amount of motion put in, particularly when expressive gestures are somewhat stylised.

Also concerned the What Ifs might be a bit hackneyed.

But, we shall see!

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I expect like any anthology they’ll be hit and miss. I’m looking forward to some random off the wall shenanigans and wackiness though.

 
   
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I quite like hit and miss shows (Dr Who springs to mind), as it’s much more satisfying when they “hit”. As great as high production shows are, they spoil you to a certain extent and you forget how good they are.

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 AduroT wrote:
I expect like any anthology they’ll be hit and miss. I’m looking forward to some random off the wall shenanigans and wackiness though.


Whilst the Marvel fun police won't let it be as wackadoodle as Brave and Bold I'm hoping the Carter story is Captain Britain rather than just What If we serumed her

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'What if... serum?' allows them to get on with whatever story they have in mind for the character.

'What if... Captain Britain for true and real?' begs for a lot of backstory and Merlin (but with a 'y') and creepy mystic nationalistic nonsense about the True Spirit of the British People empowering a Champion.

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I'm excited for it, but I tempered my expectations a bit thanks to this article on the Escapist which talked about how insane the original Marvel Zombies comic was and the fact that Disney would never risk damaging the brand with something like it ever again.

https://www.escapistmagazine.com/v2/what-if-doesnt-have-the-guts-to-give-us-the-real-marvel-zombies/
   
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Oh my it suffers diminishing returns!

I wonder if we might see Spiderham in No Way Home….

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Voss wrote:
'What if... serum?' allows them to get on with whatever story they have in mind for the character.

'What if... Captain Britain for true and real?' begs for a lot of backstory and Merlin (but with a 'y') and creepy mystic nationalistic nonsense about the True Spirit of the British People empowering a Champion.


I think you could trim it to wizard offers a magic rock or a magic sword (and she does have a sword) to fight HYDRA to stop them gimping up the multiverse with the Space Stone, also what's so wrong with indifference and a love of tea and biscuits (the True Spirit etc)

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...do I really need to explain why mystic nationalism making supermen makes for a poor bedfellow with WW2? Or at all?

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Voss wrote:
...do I really need to explain why mystic nationalism making supermen makes for a poor bedfellow with WW2? Or at all?

Well, strange women lying in ponds is no basis for a system of government!

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Ok. What If? Is good. Like, really good!

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As noted elsewhere in this thread, I was skeptic all, as I can be iffy with animated stuff. And I guess part of that skepticism stemmed from assuming this was going to be more kid friendly as a result.

It’s….not. It’s actually somewhat violent. Not graphic “guts and gore”. But plenty of bone crunching agony inflicted (including one knee cap that will never be the same again!)

It probably helps I only watched Captain America the other day, so I’m clocking various nice tie ins. Though it does play somewhat fast and loose with the timing of plot events. And it’s not simply “the same story, but with boobs!”, which is pleasing.

Lots of fun so far!

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I have two nits to pick;

A.) Has Steve ever taken a truck full speed like that and just stopped/flipped it? Strength is one thing, but mass doesn’t work like that. It was the one move that really stepped over the line for me.

2.) Flying on the back of the Hydra Stomper was a little too derivative of Star Girl to me. Certainly cool though, yeah.

 
   
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In terms of criticism, I found Howard Stark’s voice actor slightly irritating.

I suspect given everything COVID, those lines might’ve been recorded separately, as it didn’t feel like he was responding to Peggy, rather just reading the lines.

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I loved Stark myself. I think it was just him constantly being so high energy that gave him such a different tone to everyone else.

 
   
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Possibly. He definitely sounded like a 40’s film star though.

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It’s wasn’t a voice actor, it was literally the same guy that played him in the movie (and the Agent Carter show) - Dominic Copper.

It’s funny cos that’s the one thing that annoyed me about it - they got pretty much all the actors back to play the same characters, but not Chris Evans for Steve Rogers? That really stuck out to me. Weird. Maybe Evans really is done with the character.

But yeah, overall, an amazing first episode. Really enjoyed it. Kinda hope Captain Carter gets a live action version one day. I love Atwell in that role.

 
   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
In terms of criticism, I found Howard Stark’s voice actor slightly irritating.

I suspect given everything COVID, those lines might’ve been recorded separately, as it didn’t feel like he was responding to Peggy, rather just reading the lines.

That wasn't particularly unusual even before Covid. Some recording studios have the capacity to do a lot of voice actors simultaneously, but scheduling often renders that moot, and different VAs can end up doing cold reads, responses to recordings of other VAs or responding to stand-ins reading the lines.

In some cases, remote recording recently has allowed for a bit more versatility in recording as remote allows for a cleaner source recording from each person, while they can still respond to each other on a Zoom call (or whatever). The critical role folks recently talked about this one of their production previews for their show- they original set up for the entire cast to be in the studio, but ended up doing a lot of recording at home. The energy is different, but it sounded like they got better takes (and a lot more retakes) essentially doing recording sessions in their closets.

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Something I was expecting in the episode…

Spoiler:
Red Skull’s ally to be Loki, summoned from Asgard.

Kinda happy they went a different route.

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Intro reminded me of the Twilight Zone.

The episode... eh. Largely slogged through the same lack of stakes the first cap movie did. Supers face rolling normals is just inherently uninteresting.

The end was... Meh. If there were major differences in the time line, they need to show it somehow. Its effectively a body swap with the biggest consequence being no Winter Soldier later.

Looking for influences was more interesting than the actual show. Iron Giant was gigantically obvious, as was the blurring of the lines with Wonder Woman (especially in silhouette with the current version with sword and shield).

But it didn't do much for me. Sure, big buff women are sexy, but not when the only way they can be useful is magic science juice. It kinda undermines the story.
Mostly it goes back to question of stakes and consequences. It fundamentally declines to address the 'So what?' question. Does this change anything? Does it matter?

Hopefully future ones will be willing to go off the rails and not just go through the same dance with the same effective outcome.

Nicky J wrote:It’s funny cos that’s the one thing that annoyed me about it - they got pretty much all the actors back to play the same characters, but not Chris Evans for Steve Rogers?

Several of the big names bowed out for their respective episodes (Benedict and Brie, iirc). Whether it was money or time or lack of interest is an open question.

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Seems the idea is every season of What If will have a Captain Carter episode.

Hopefully they’ll be narrative continuations of this one.

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It would have been neat if the monster from the portal was a Abilisk (the monster from the beginning of GotG Vol 2).


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