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FFG is absolutely notorious for never ordering a reasonable amount of their own product. X-Wing, Star Wars Armada, etc...all suffer from 3-6 month droughts on popular or key miniatures/units/figures, etc. They play it way too safe.

Ugh, Armada is the WORST for reprint waits.

 kodos wrote:
Most of their stuff is sold out or very hard to get

anyone know if this is because the game is doing so well, or is FFG producing Legion in China (or a different reason)?

Both of these, Legion is now the 5th most popular played TTMWG and they are made in China. The biggest factor though is that FFG/Asmodee's distribution sucks, they never get the product released on time and altogether. There are also internal issues at the moment as Asmodee are cutting jobs and rejigging things but we do not know if this is actually effecting things (there has been no announcements just chatter from ex-staff) but the sudden cancelling of various X-Wing products suggests that there is a grain of truth to the matter.

So as an outsider who doesn't own any models yet, what is the "soft plastic" like to deal with and paint? Is it comparable to restic, like some of the Mantic kits are made from (or Sedition Wars if some people have that)? Or is it more like boardgame plastic, like Runewars was made in?

I mostly wonder for priming purposes, and how well the paint will stick to the model depending on the brand of spray primer I use.

It is nothing like that awful Mantic junk. And it’s better than the RW stuff too.

TBH it started out very good and has only gotten better and better.

Did FFG ever release a Boushh miniature for IA or Legion? If not, have there been any third party imitation bits? I’m looking to get a helmet or two and they don’t need to be super accurate.

Negative but check Shapeways.

Or the old SWM game if you can find one cheap.

 AegisGrimm wrote:
So as an outsider who doesn't own any models yet, what is the "soft plastic" like to deal with and paint? Is it comparable to restic, like some of the Mantic kits are made from (or Sedition Wars if some people have that)? Or is it more like boardgame plastic, like Runewars was made in?

I mostly wonder for priming purposes, and how well the paint will stick to the model depending on the brand of spray primer I use.

I prime mine with GW Chaos Black primer and it works just fine. No issues with primer or paint sticking to the models.

My exposure to PVC is pretty limited as I don't like the stuff, but Legion's "soft plastic" I'd say is on the better end of the spectrum. It's fairly hard and crisp for PVC, and only noticeably bendy on long, thin parts (or if you apply undue force) like lightsabers or the long Clone rifle that may need straightening. If you're familiar with Fallout Wasteland Warfare's starter set models, FFG's are a little harder and crisper than those. They are very far away from Reaper's white plastic models, suffering neither the bendiness nor the dodgy paint adhesion. They don't turn sticky when sprayed with the aforementioned primer like some of my Reaper models have either.

Overall I don't begrudge FFG using the material. It's not without flaws, but for PVC it's actually pretty good.

I've come to really like the material for the most part, it's easy to glue and easy-ish to clean mold lines from compared to other PVC minis, and easy to cut and glue for conversions. Good old HIPS is best, but I'd MUCH rather have a Legion PVC figure over a pewter or resin figure, even with the detail being a bit softer. The larger size of the Legion figs is actually an advantage here, makes them easier to paint and the softer detail is less of an issue,

Most people use regular primer on them just fine, but I had some issues with paint rubbing off of RuneWars figures too easily, so I went overkill and bought a bunch of variously colored Vinyl Dye and it's been glorious. It acts just like spray paint, but actually bonds with the plastic and permanently colors it, so if paint ever does rub off it reveals the properly colored "bare" plastic underneath, so the edges of my Clonetroopers can only ever wear down to reveal gloss white plastic no matter how much they're handled, and when I get around to finishing them them my Royal Guard can only ever wear down to a bright satin red,

that's good to hear. The main thing I was worried about is having to take special measures to get a primer that adequately sticks to the PVC models. I'm not at all worried about the hard plastics, but it's always been notoriously hard to find something for PVC. For things like Bones I had to start using a special Vallejo brush on primer, but even that doesn't stick super-solid like spray primer on metals or HIPS.

 Manchu wrote:
There isn’t even a reasonable explanation of why the Clone Wars began so there’s no real point grinding our teeth over the GAR order of battle.

Go and re-watch the movies. It's not a subtle plot line...and fairly obvious why Palpatine started the war in order to create instability and a ready-to-go army for when he assumed power.

So, the rumour was right;

What's the second one supposed to be? Unit expansion for the ARCs?

It's just the ARC box:

Damn, that Republic AT-RT will me mine, along with some clones for a project that's not even for Star Wars Legion!

Ooo, that means that Clan Wren Mandalorians are going to be true too. I can’t wait.

 ingtaer wrote:

 kodos wrote:
Most of their stuff is sold out or very hard to get

anyone know if this is because the game is doing so well, or is FFG producing Legion in China (or a different reason)?

Both of these, Legion is now the 5th most popular played TTMWG and they are made in China. The biggest factor though is that FFG/Asmodee's distribution sucks, they never get the product released on time and altogether. There are also internal issues at the moment as Asmodee are cutting jobs and rejigging things but we do not know if this is actually effecting things (there has been no announcements just chatter from ex-staff) but the sudden cancelling of various X-Wing products suggests that there is a grain of truth to the matter.

X-wing is a game I'd like to start when I can afford to, what sort of things have been cancelled with it? I hope things don't affect it too badly.

 Mentlegen324 wrote:

X-wing is a game I'd like to start when I can afford to, what sort of things have been cancelled with it? I hope things don't affect it too badly.

Bit OT for this thread, relevant info can be found here - https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/784370.page#10693019

Posted this in the FFG RPG thread but its relevant for Legion as well. Asmodee have announced that they are no longer offering a parts replacement service and people need to go through the store where they purchased the product to get replacements, for many of us that is going to entail massive delays or it not happening at all (NZ distributor is pretty slack getting new product and I have zero confidence in them getting replacements).

Yeah, good luck with online purchases, then.

 ingtaer wrote:
So, the rumour was right;

Well then, AT-RT it is. Not that it's a bad thing, but it means whatever else is in store for the Republic will have to wait an extra release slot. And so do I. Might have to pick one up after all if I run out of stuff to paint by then.

I wonder if they're going to be cheap and reuse the Rebel one or at least give us another pose. Kinda hoping for the latter, but then I'll be annoyed that I have two identical ones in my Rebel army when I could have had a bit of variety instead.

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Ooo, that means that Clan Wren Mandalorians are going to be true too. I can’t wait.

Really? That'd be cool.

 Geifer wrote:

 ingtaer wrote:
So, the rumour was right;

Well then, AT-RT it is. Not that it's a bad thing, but it means whatever else is in store for the Republic will have to wait an extra release slot. And so do I. Might have to pick one up after all if I run out of stuff to paint by then.

I wonder if they're going to be cheap and reuse the Rebel one or at least give us another pose. Kinda hoping for the latter, but then I'll be annoyed that I have two identical ones in my Rebel army when I could have had a bit of variety instead.

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Ooo, that means that Clan Wren Mandalorians are going to be true too. I can’t wait.

Really? That'd be cool.

According to the leak, when the AT-RT comes out the CIS will get STAPs so no need to skip a GAR release.

 Geifer wrote:
I wonder if they're going to be cheap and reuse the Rebel one or at least give us another pose. Kinda hoping for the latter, but then I'll be annoyed that I have two identical ones in my Rebel army when I could have had a bit of variety instead.

If they do another pose you could probably buy a clone one and then swap the riders, which would be a cool way to add variety to both armies -- I bet there would be people looking for trades/swaps if so.

(On the other hand it's possible they'll make the new one multi-pose, which would be even better but would probably limit the extent to which people wanted to swap...)

where did the image come from of the AT-RT?

Spanish distributor.

Tell the truth... We're all ready for "The Bad Batch"!

 Kingsley wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
I wonder if they're going to be cheap and reuse the Rebel one or at least give us another pose. Kinda hoping for the latter, but then I'll be annoyed that I have two identical ones in my Rebel army when I could have had a bit of variety instead.

If they do another pose you could probably buy a clone one and then swap the riders, which would be a cool way to add variety to both armies -- I bet there would be people looking for trades/swaps if so.

(On the other hand it's possible they'll make the new one multi-pose, which would be even better but would probably limit the extent to which people wanted to swap...)

One could, I'd assume. For me it's too late since my Rebel walkers are painted and I'm not going to rip them apart again, but I expect the Republic and Rebel kits will be compatible with no or absolutely marginal conversion work. I'm looking forward to the new plastic age, not the least because of this quote from the Saber tank article:

In addition to outfitting it for battle, you also have the freedom to choose how your hard plastic TX-130 Saber-class tank looks when it enters the fight, including whether its missile pods are open or closed, the type of weapon mounted on the hatch, and whether or not this weapon is manned by a gunner.

Modeling options are good and it seems that plastic infantry offered something in that regard already as well. That's a good step up from the monopose PVC models. There's really no reason why the AT-RT shouldn't have a swappable rider, if you have a spare Rebel laying around.

As for being posable, I don't know. The Rebel walker's legs have pistons and they're asymmetrical to boot so you can't just switch the right and left leg. That really hamstrings posing options. I could see a solution to the pistons, so maybe there could be posability. But it doesn't seem to me like FFG's kits are going to be that advanced for now. Options, yes. Posability, probably not yet.

New rules reference released, nerfs both Tauntauns and Shore troopers as well as allowing pre measuring of movement.
https://images-cdn.fantasyflightgames.com/filer_public/29/5a/295a5473-0126-4a90-b139-5d5bdcbbab04/swl_rules_reference_16_eng-compressed.pdf

Will have to see if I can find it again but apparently Legion is doing a bit part magazine like the old LotR one.

Legion partwork test run has been spotted in France (Auxerre) from Altaya.
N°1 is Dath vader, 3 rebels, 1 fence, 3 dice, 4 paints and a brush.
N°2 looks to be Luke, 3 stormtroopers, 3 dice and 3 paints and N°3 chewbacca, 1 fence, 3 dice, 2 paints and a brush.

Thanks for posting that, didn't have time to find it again before I had to go to work. Hope it gets to this part of the world.