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They had to've known that they were telling porkies when they wrote it.

Resin was not new.
French (and probably other) miniature manufacturers already used it for 10+ years by then.
And yes, resin was good for details, lightweight, nothing wrong with it except that small parts could break or bend.

But resin was (and is) also relatively cheap.
And that aspect is something GW never got quite right :-)

 Accolade wrote:

EDIT: Also, the new Harlequin Solitaire is $3 over the release of the DE Archon from just a few months ago. I think expecting the Deathjester at $28 is not outside of the scope. I realize I was being exaggerative, but then I see that the old Deathjester, in all its Finecrap glory, was $20. So I'm just curious about why it went up in price by (at least) 30%.

But I suppose we can't make fun of GW's fan-driven price strategy.

The Deathjester's base is bigger and his gun is bigger. As far as GW's logic is concerned, he will cost more than the Solitaire.

The Deathjester will be the same as the solitaire and as the Spiritseer. Plastic clampacks like that tend to be the same price when they're released together. The Sanguinary Guard in power armour and Terminator Librarian in Termie armour were both £18.

Don't you mean Sanguinary Priest ImAGeek?

Yeah I did haha, thanks

GW might bring out an Harlequin armybox with all (new) models. They tend to do that lately...
And that might be a bit cheaper (or less expensive).

To be fair they do knock a wee bit off the price when they do bundles (sometimes)

Does anyone which day of the week the previous few codexs were released? Just if they've all been released on the same day, then the Harlequin dex'd probably get released on that day too

Pre-order this Friday night, release the Saturday after.

 Paradigm wrote:
Pre-order this Friday night, release the Saturday after.

Is that how GW rolls, or is that simply a speculation?

 Jangus wrote:

 Paradigm wrote:
Pre-order this Friday night, release the Saturday after.

Is that how GW rolls, or is that simply a speculation?

It's how GW do.

Every new release for the last year or so has been a Friday night pre-order, with the WD released the day after, and the minis themselves released the following Satudary.

In other words, pre-orders will go up on the evening of the 13th (UK time), and the release will fall on the 20th. The characters will be up for PE on the 20th, released on the 28th.

Still no sign of the codex then?

 Jangus wrote:
Is that how GW rolls, or is that simply a speculation?

You're in Oz, so "Friday night" means "7am EAST".

If you mean leaks, nope, too soon,

If you mean whether there is one, and when it's due: yes check further back in the thread for details about it and the (larger) painting guide

With Natfka's sources and a user on Warseer being wrong last week I am still skeptical before we see the actual release list in WD. Darnok has confirmed we will get another week, Sad Panda who has also been 100% correct so far, pointed out the character models will come at the end of the release. In the past codex books and painting guides went preorder the second last or last week (in most cases). Two guys on Warseer from Sweden or Denmark said their shop has told them the books will get into preorder this week. Until there are photos we wont know. I expect the preorder list leak in the next 48 hours

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Jangus wrote:
Is that how GW rolls, or is that simply a speculation?

You're in Oz, so "Friday night" means "7am EAST".

I can deal with that. I just don't want to miss out on getting a limited edition codex if there is one. I doubt there will be, but I'll remain hopeful.

I'm wondering if the death jester(s) come in units and if so if that model comes with more than the one weapon. Anyones guess really.

 ceorron wrote:
I'm wondering if the death jester(s) come in units and if so if that model comes with more than the one weapon. Anyones guess really.

It looks like a monopose clampack so almost certainly not.

Vael Galizur posted a size comparison image made by her on TheDarkCity.net - it shows well that the Starweaver is larger than the DE Venom kit. The canopy windows were used to scale the photos

Link: http://www.thedarkcity.net/t11144p300-harlequins-release-in-early-2015-february-3-skyweaver-jetbike-rules-leaked (center of the page)

Will definitely pick up the Death Jester, but he may need another base. Not overly moved by the Shadow Seer

 Flashman wrote:
Will definitely pick up the Death Jester, but he may need another base. Not overly moved by the Shadow Seer

Shadow Seer is 95% the same model, just a little bit different pose - GW just took "Don't fix if not broken" approach - old model was fine, why overly change the new one? I am not moved by it as well, but I guess I'll buy it as well just to have psyker in Harlies army.

By the by, one thing bugs me out - what the hell is with Codex? If, in fact, there will be Fully Released HC Codex in 96 pages, why then release any rules in WD? Especially rules in bite-sized portions, 2-3 units at once. Plus why there are (apparently) all models first, and then Codex at the very end? It doesn't make much of a sense, especially if there is no defined option about wargear, for example. And no HQ model as well.
I just damn hope that there will be in fact new dex, and it will be fully full army, not some WD-only knockoff set of junkie rules or Inquisition of everything from everywhere.

 Veskern wrote:

 Flashman wrote:
Will definitely pick up the Death Jester, but he may need another base. Not overly moved by the Shadow Seer

Shadow Seer is 95% the same model, just a little bit different pose - GW just took "Don't fix if not broken" approach - old model was fine, why overly change the new one? I am not moved by it as well, but I guess I'll buy it as well just to have psyker in Harlies army.

By the by, one thing bugs me out - what the hell is with Codex? If, in fact, there will be Fully Released HC Codex in 96 pages, why then release any rules in WD? Especially rules in bite-sized portions, 2-3 units at once. Plus why there are (apparently) all models first, and then Codex at the very end? It doesn't make much of a sense, especially if there is no defined option about wargear, for example. And no HQ model as well.
I just damn hope that there will be in fact new dex, and it will be fully full army, not some WD-only knockoff set of junkie rules or Inquisition of everything from everywhere.

It's the same approach they took with the Tyranid release in Nidvember. Models and rules in the WD, then followed by Shields of Baal: Leviathan with new formations/warlord traits/Tyranid special CAD. Leviathan came out at the end of the Tyranid release, so I assume that is the model they are following here.

 Veskern wrote:

By the by, one thing bugs me out - what the hell is with Codex? If, in fact, there will be Fully Released HC Codex in 96 pages, why then release any rules in WD? Especially rules in bite-sized portions, 2-3 units at once. Plus why there are (apparently) all models first, and then Codex at the very end? It doesn't make much of a sense, especially if there is no defined option about wargear, for example. And no HQ model as well.
I just damn hope that there will be in fact new dex, and it will be fully full army, not some WD-only knockoff set of junkie rules or Inquisition of everything from everywhere.

They put the rules in WD for a few reasons, I'd guess. One is so that people feel they can buy a box and run it without shelling out for a codex (which is true and handy), so that sells the WD, and those interested in power/value of the unit can see how it plays/how many points ect, so be more tempted to buy the kit. It has the handy side-effect that buy buying 4 WDs (£2.40x4) rather than a £30 codex, and still have all the relevant parts. GW sells its (probably overpriced) magazine, I end up paying less but they still make a profit, everyone's a winner!

Not sure what you mean about the lack of Wargear definitions or a HQ? I imagine the Shadowseer will be a HQ choice, (with the DJ in Heavy, the Solitaire in Elites, the shooty skimmer probably in Fast and the Transpot skimmer as FA/DT), and the relevant Wargear rules apart from Relics have all been put in the WD.

 Asmodas wrote:


It's the same approach they took with the Tyranid release in Nidvember. Models and rules in the WD, then followed by Shields of Baal: Leviathan with new formations/warlord traits/Tyranid special CAD. Leviathan came out at the end of the Tyranid release, so I assume that is the model they are following here.

I really hope so, but of course it seems like it, just too much of completely new stuff, rules, models, vechicles and clams just to make it as WD addition or only Supplement / Expansion.


But the next question is - will the Harlies get any HS stuff, like Prism, Ravager, perhaps something completely new, or they'll have "very special" CAD which will encourage dynamic and non-Heavy approach to fight
We see new Elites, Troops, Ded, FA, some rumours about HQs, but complete silence about any Heavy Support - it seems as it will be either "borrowed" one, or there will be no HS and different CAD.

Well, the Starweaver kit does double as something called a Voidweaver, which is a "heavy weapons platform" that will probably be a Heavy Support slot... but I, too, find myself secretly and naively hoping for more units in the final Codex than what we've seen so far. I want Mimes!!

 Doomaflatchi wrote:
Well, the Starweaver kit does double as something called a Voidweaver, which is a "heavy weapons platform" that will probably be a Heavy Support slot... but I, too, find myself secretly and naively hoping for more units in the final Codex than what we've seen so far. I want Mimes!!

Is that confirmed yet? Last I saw that was just a rumor.

 Paradigm wrote:


Not sure what you mean about the lack of Wargear definitions or a HQ? I imagine the Shadowseer will be a HQ choice, (with the DJ in Heavy, the Solitaire in Elites, the shooty skimmer probably in Fast and the Transpot skimmer as FA/DT), and the relevant Wargear rules apart from Relics have all been put in the WD.

I also believe that Shadowseer will be HQ, despite the fact that it landed in Elites slot atm on GW site - just too "big" unit to make it as Elite Slot. But about DJ in Heavy - I really doubt that, more probably it will be in Elites slot as it is in this category on GW shop right now - it might be temporary, of course, but I don't see this unit being HS, especially as it appears as one Clam Pack, each for 28$. As I said, in my opinion it is more probably some borrowed stuff from DE/E codexes in HS, or there will be no HS and a bit different CAD ( for example - instead of HS there will be 6 Elites or 6 FAs ).


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 Doomaflatchi wrote:
Well, the Starweaver kit does double as something called a Voidweaver, which is a "heavy weapons platform" that will probably be a Heavy Support slot... but I, too, find myself secretly and naively hoping for more units in the final Codex than what we've seen so far. I want Mimes!!

Damn, very interesting gossip - where did you hear about it?
Perhaps it will be something like Vypers, only more durable and heavier gunned? I'd love to see that instead of hijacked Ravagers and Prisms..

There was some chatter yesterday on Warseer about the Voidweaver. Apparently, some order sheets turned up at an LGS in Germany showing the words "Starweaver/Voidweaver" on them for next week's releases.

Not very solid, and no pics of the order sheet. But, as some have noted after looking at the picture that comes with the Troupe assembly instructions, the picture shows what appear to be two different variants of the Starweaver. One has underslung weapons, while the other has a pintle-mounted weapon (likely the Starweaver is the latter). Take it for what it's worth.

Not very solid, but seems legit and quite probable. I hope it is true, and Harlies will get actual unique HS slot.

By the by, it would fit my earlier observation about Troupe assembly instruction - skimmer on art there looks a bit different than Starweaver showed in latest leaks.