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The Hammerhal box is interesting to me because of the Celestial Hurricanum. I had been debating getting one anyway, so the Hammerhal box at online discount vs buying a webstore-exclusive Hurricanum at full price is very attractive.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Come to think of it, Bottle is probably going to seize out with excitement upon hearing about the city allegiances. With all his mixed order collection it's a big opportunity.

Damn right! It's the first time I've ever been eligible for allegiance abilities. + I get them ON TOP of my Order allegiance so I don't have to give up my Quicksilver Potion!!! If they are all worded like the Hammerhal one, I should be able to mix it up every game I play! :-)

Lord Kragan wrote:
Just... want to leave this... about here.



Yeah, seems the right place.

What's the context for this? Firestorm or actual new AoS kits?

I think that was posted in the comments for the new boxed army sets. Which I didn't particularly care for. But i'm definitely excited now for this reveal.

The Firestorm set is crazy expensive. $65 for a booklet and some card? Yeah I don't know... I'll see if we can purchase it for the club so I don't have to Shell out.

What what what. Pirate Vampires?!?! Are we just seeing some fluff rules or an actual reveal of pirate vampires?

So I read the community article on the Hammerhal ability... That it's free seems pretty off to me, essentially every Order army without Seraphon in it has that benefit now. Even if balanced out by abilities for other alliances it's a free upgrade for all players that comes from a separate (and potentially limited release) supplement. I'm going to hold out on judgement though, hopefully there is another factor that we haven't seen which adds a downside or cost.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
So I read the community article on the Hammerhal ability... That it's free seems pretty off to me, essentially every Order army without Seraphon in it has that benefit now. Even if balanced out by abilities for other alliances it's a free upgrade for all players that comes from a separate (and potentially limited release) supplement. I'm going to hold out on judgement though, hopefully there is another factor that we haven't seen which adds a downside or cost.

I agree, the community article had me concerned yesterday. It's added on top of other allegiance abilities? They even mentioned a pure Stormcast army with the city abilities AND Order/Stormcast abilities. Sounds like power creep to me. Hopefully you switch out abilities for city abilities or something and not get additional blown up your... at no downside.

I'm buying this just for the artwork and lore. As someone else mentioned reading spear of shadows and realising there are actually humans who pledge their service to arielle and not sigmar, it's bloody tempting to do an army that capitalised on this.

Only issue is deciding how to do the humans who fight for Ghyran. Described as Ironbark armour, I wonder if you could chop up dryads for armour.

Yeah I'm seriously contemplating that Hammerhal box...

Anvilgard preview:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/19/the-armies-of-firestorm-anvilgard-sep19gw-homepage-post-4/

Implacable March is insane. There has to be a downside. Please.

 Hanskrampf wrote:
Anvilgard preview:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/19/the-armies-of-firestorm-anvilgard-sep19gw-homepage-post-4/

Implacable March is insane. There has to be a downside. Please.

Don't opposing armies get a new ability too?

Not saying it isn't pretty damn powerful, but I'd like to see the opposing sides ability.

 Hanskrampf wrote:
Anvilgard preview:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/19/the-armies-of-firestorm-anvilgard-sep19gw-homepage-post-4/

Implacable March is insane. There has to be a downside. Please.

It is good, but think about how it will actually play. It kicks off in your hero phase, meaning you have to pre-plan it for full effect. Otherwise, the enemy will just retreat and charge you again in their turn (getting any bonuses for charging they may have).

Looks good, takes thought.

These new box sets look pretty tempting. Any indication on price range?

Zond wrote:
These new box sets look pretty tempting. Any indication on price range?

They're $170 USD, so in that bracket.

I thought for sure with all of the Deathguard love GW is showing us and with the Blightwar box landing not too long ago, that we'd maybe see some more Nurgle love in AoS...Did I miss something? Weren't there rumors for new plastic Beasts of Nurgle and a plastic Greater Daemon kit?

Zond wrote:
These new box sets look pretty tempting. Any indication on price range?

I think they're £100.

 Fango wrote:
I thought for sure with all of the Deathguard love GW is showing us and with the Blightwar box landing not to long ago, that we'd maybe see some more Nurgle love in AoS...Did I miss something? Weren't there rumors for new plastic Beasts of Nurgle and a plastic Greater Daemon kit?

Could still happen, we are still not even/barely halfway through the DG release which may still have 2-3 weeks to go before all of it is actually out. I was indeed hoping for a GUO and some pestigors, etc. It would have made more sense for them to design the nurgle stuff simultaneously for both games but maybe they didn't.. eh. If there is any nurgle release for AoS I would expect it to be a smaller release than what the DG are receiving. However if a new beast of nurgle or GUO was coming out it would have made sense to include them in the DG codex in some fashion...kinda strange.

 Thargrim wrote:

 Fango wrote:
I thought for sure with all of the Deathguard love GW is showing us and with the Blightwar box landing not to long ago, that we'd maybe see some more Nurgle love in AoS...Did I miss something? Weren't there rumors for new plastic Beasts of Nurgle and a plastic Greater Daemon kit?

Could still happen, we are still not even/barely halfway through the DG release which may still have 2-3 weeks to go before all of it is actually out. I was indeed hoping for a GUO and some pestigors, etc. It would have made more sense for them to design the nurgle stuff simultaneously for both games but maybe they didn't.. eh. If there is any nurgle release for AoS I would expect it to be a smaller release than what the DG are receiving. However if a new beast of nurgle or GUO was coming out it would have made sense to include them in the DG codex in some fashion...kinda strange.

Good point, I just thought that the fact that both AoS AND 40K players/collectors would be interested in a GUO and Beasts of Nurgle (and even a Pestigor kit, in the same vein as the new Tzaangors), now (or at least close to concurrently) would be the best time to reveal them. Crossing fingers.

They did the same with TS.
40k release in november.
AoS army release in January.

 Hanskrampf wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
So I read the community article on the Hammerhal ability... That it's free seems pretty off to me, essentially every Order army without Seraphon in it has that benefit now. Even if balanced out by abilities for other alliances it's a free upgrade for all players that comes from a separate (and potentially limited release) supplement. I'm going to hold out on judgement though, hopefully there is another factor that we haven't seen which adds a downside or cost.

I agree, the community article had me concerned yesterday. It's added on top of other allegiance abilities? They even mentioned a pure Stormcast army with the city abilities AND Order/Stormcast abilities. Sounds like power creep to me. Hopefully you switch out abilities for city abilities or something and not get additional blown up your... at no downside.

It's not a huge deal, since if it is a straight upgrade it will be house ruled and tournament comped out of existence, but it would be disappointing for that to happen. Alternatively people may say that they can be used, but they replace the default allegiance ability while retaining whatever command trait & artifact tables were present from the parent allegiance (which, IMO, is what they should be).


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 unmercifulconker wrote:
I'm buying this just for the artwork and lore. As someone else mentioned reading spear of shadows and realising there are actually humans who pledge their service to arielle and not sigmar, it's bloody tempting to do an army that capitalised on this.

Only issue is deciding how to do the humans who fight for Ghyran. Described as Ironbark armour, I wonder if you could chop up dryads for armour.

Converting it will look nicer but take a ton of extra time & money. I would suggest just making it a wood color with some grain texture painted on freehand.

Converting it will look nicer but take a ton of extra time & money. 

So par the course for this hobby.

Would be cool to see wooden breast-plates and plank shields, though.

 unmercifulconker wrote:
What what what. Pirate Vampires?!?! Are we just seeing some fluff rules or an actual reveal of pirate vampires?

I wonder if they'll reuse the stuff that Disney shut down back in 2005 because it was too similar to Pirates of the Caribbean?

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg203/pistolpete308/Pirates-small.jpg

Looking forward to it either way.

MongooseMatt wrote:

 Hanskrampf wrote:
Anvilgard preview:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/19/the-armies-of-firestorm-anvilgard-sep19gw-homepage-post-4/

Implacable March is insane. There has to be a downside. Please.

It is good, but think about how it will actually play. It kicks off in your hero phase, meaning you have to pre-plan it for full effect. Otherwise, the enemy will just retreat and charge you again in their turn (getting any bonuses for charging they may have).

Looks good, takes thought.

Yeah, people are raising their eyebrows at it but I just keep picturing my opponent backing up and using it against me to set up a nasty charge. Sigmar preserve you if it's Ironjaws you screw this up against.

It looks like a "check-mate" move that takes a lot of forethought to maneuver your opponent into.

Really I like it because of the Imperial Guard fluff where that not-russian tyrant leader had his troops march straight over Tyranids to kill them. It's pretty epic to imagine Freeguild soldiers (even more-so the previously mentioned wood armored ones) doing that to Skaven or daemons.

Kanluwen wrote:

Zond wrote:
These new box sets look pretty tempting. Any indication on price range?

They're $170 USD, so in that bracket.

So $200 Canadian. OUCH! For what ever reason what ever it is in UK pounds just double it for Canadian dollars. While the savings are there, it's still expensive.

Well I'm liking the expansion of fluff around these cities.
Nice to hear the vampire pirates are making a return. I doubt it would mean eventual inclusion of other such things from the old Lustrea campaign or anything from dreadfleet.

I would like some interesting rules to make some sort of count as "araby" army. But more focused on fantasy things like elementals and beasts rather than historicals..

I still don't understand how the worlds are laid out much less how the new "factions"/ allies thing works and these rules piled ontop of the existing things will undoubtedly confuse me..excited none the less, maybe someone could pm me about the allies and what factions and things are usable, considering most like HE and DE are all old things now

Wait? Vampirates? Teased this week?

Is there any context to this? Comes out of the blue in the middle of the Death Guard release.

Come back tomorrow when we’ll be looking at the Wraith Fleet, an army of undead pirates(!).



https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/20/the-armies-of-firestorm-tempests-eye-sep20gw-homepage-post-4/

So is it going to be old undead with kit bashes or a new army or some new rules or what?

It's so out of left field if this is a new army there has basically been no hints or chatter about it at all.

You know as much as anyone else who's read the article and has no inkling beyond what it says.

Thanks for the link.

 Gamgee wrote:
So is it going to be old undead with kit bashes or a new army or some new rules or what?

It's so out of left field if this is a new army there has basically been no hints or chatter about it at all.

I don't doubt that GW can keep this a secret if they want to. But I'm not sure. On the one hand, large scale conversions don't fit GW's obsession with having no rules without models. On the other hand, dare I hope Death actually receives new models, after all this time?

 Kanluwen wrote:
You know as much as anyone else who's read the article and has no inkling beyond what it says.

So what if a GW employee who worked there read the article and knew more than us. That's someone who does.

When I said that I meant rumour wise. Not smart ass wise.