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 Red Harvest wrote:
FStill, the Kriza Borci look darned useful.

The question is, would you rather have one Borat or two Kamaou?

You two are doing it right.

Borac is amazing and Kamau made me drop interest in Varuna. Onward to other projects.

Bostria confirmed that the 4-2 move on the Kamau was an error, they should still be 4-4.
I can see that they are objectively a solid link, just a bit dull.

 Monkeysloth wrote:

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:

 TalonZahn wrote:

 Monkeysloth wrote:
Pre-orders are up on gamenerdz for $38 each.

That's hot.

Sold out for now...

Looks like I ruined for everyone when I placed my order.

Back in stock just now.


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Unrelated side note:
Are new celestial guard or Caledonia volunteer boxes anywhere in the immediate future plans?

Caledonia Volunteers definitely are, we saw renders for a couple of them when we saw the renders for the Caledonia starter.

From the Adepicon seminar I believe

 Monkeysloth wrote:
From the Adepicon seminar I believe

I guess the older HMG sculpt is staying then. Aren't 3 of these guys already in the starter?
Will the remaining 2 here be released as a blister? Or will they crank out 2 more and make a box?

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:

 Monkeysloth wrote:
From the Adepicon seminar I believe

I guess the older HMG sculpt is staying then. Aren't 3 of these guys already in the starter?
Will the remaining 2 here be released as a blister? Or will they crank out 2 more and make a box?

There's a box coming. There's more sculpts that weren't shown as part of the renders there.

And there's literally a new HMG model in the picture you quoted. The guy with the weapon held up in the air, between the riflewoman and chain rifle model.

Yep, got everything a fiery Caledonian needs - LGL, wellness pistol, rifle, HMG, chain rifle, and zero tactical heels.

Since I'm kind of new to this, how do the pre-orders work? Is the extra model just for ordering from CB's webstore or are there other ways to order the set with the bonus figure?

 LunarSol wrote:
Since I'm kind of new to this, how do the pre-orders work? Is the extra model just for ordering from CB's webstore or are there other ways to order the set with the bonus figure?

The preorder model(CSU for Beyond Red Veil and ABH for Beyond Icestorm) is going to be included no matter where you order it from. It's something that should actually be within the box, not as a separate blister.

The GenCon exclusives(chibi Musashi and Grunt Intel) will only be available at Interplanetario, GenCon, or via the CB webstore.

I advise you, as being based in the US, to see if anyone you know is going to GenCon and just having them get you the box and any of the two exclusives there if possible. Spanish post is extortionate.

Shouldn't he be able to preorder the gencon deal from his local game store?

 PsychoticStorm wrote:
Shouldn't he be able to preorder the gencon deal from his local game store?

No, because the GenCon deal featuring the Chibi Model and Grunt would have to go through Corvus Belli proper and I can't think of any retailers in the US that do such a thing--because CB themselves prefer to deal with distributors rather than shops.

I do not know the american market, but I think the distributor can order the preorders from CB.

 PsychoticStorm wrote:
I do not know the american market, but I think the distributor can order the preorders from CB.

Preorders are not the same as event exclusives.

Stop being disingenuous.

The "preorder deal" through CB is the event exclusives and both Beyond sets.
He'd be able to get the Beyond sets starting July 24th, but there is NO distributor/retailer here in the US that can sell the GenCon exclusives without picking them up at the event and reselling them on.

That's the whole reason why I said that if he wanted the GenCon exclusives, it's better just to have someone pick the stuff up for him at the event if he can manage it.

I am not disingenuous and stop accusing people, it is getting really old.

In EU stores can preorder the gencon deal through CB and iirc through distributors, I am unsure why distributors in US cannot do the same, theoretically they should right?

 PsychoticStorm wrote:
I am not disingenuous and stop accusing people, it is getting really old.

Then stop trying to act as though you have insider knowledge when it comes to stuff like this.

It's a disingenuous argument to try to say that you don't know the American market, but distributors can preorders from CB. You know(or should know) that the event exclusives haven't been available outside of CB's webstore or the events proper.

In EU stores can preorder the gencon deal through CB and iirc through distributors, I am unsure why distributors in US cannot do the same, theoretically they should right?

Never heard of distributors being able to get the GenCon deal(the GenCon/event exclusives and the new stuff), US or otherwise. If it were doable, Warstore would have done it since they're also the distributor here in the US.

The opposite is true of retailers, who theoretically can order it from CB directly for customers...but why the hell would anyone who has access to a ninja shopper for GenCon ever do that?
It's $20 for a single model but ordering from CB means you're looking at something like ~$45-50 USD because of shipping.

 PsychoticStorm wrote:
I am not disingenuous and stop accusing people, it is getting really old.

In EU stores can preorder the gencon deal through CB and iirc through distributors, I am unsure why distributors in US cannot do the same, theoretically they should right?

That's never been the case. Our only option is coming close to doubling the cost of the exclusive through postal costs by ordering it direct from CB.

 plastictrees wrote:

 PsychoticStorm wrote:
I am not disingenuous and stop accusing people, it is getting really old.

In EU stores can preorder the gencon deal through CB and iirc through distributors, I am unsure why distributors in US cannot do the same, theoretically they should right?

That's never been the case. Our only option is coming close to doubling the cost of the exclusive through postal costs by ordering it direct from CB.

Just so we're clear and there's no confusion following on from your statement, Plastictrees:
When the preorder period starts (in this case on July 24th), US/Canadian customers will be able to preorder the Beyond Icestorm and Beyond Red Veil boxed sets through their local retailers.
They will not be able to obtain the GenCon Intel Grunt variant or Chibi Musashi.

CB does not offer the GenCon event exclusives to their distributors or retailers here in the US.

I think they did it once with The Warstore having GenCon Penthesilea available, but past that I can't think of anything event exclusive to be available.

 Kanluwen wrote:

It's a disingenuous argument to try to say that you don't know the American market, but distributors can preorders from CB. You know(or should know) that the event exclusives haven't been available outside of CB's webstore or the events proper.

Sigh

You could just say something neutral along the lines of "I do not know how it is done in Europe, but here in the US distributors cannot order the gencon exclusives" or something nicer like " I am afraid not in the US distributors cannot order the gencon exclusive deal, it goes only through CB" or ask if distributors in EU can order the gencon deal in contrast with the US, but no you chose the direct confrontation as always, because somebody dared to claim ignorance on the US market and said that he thinks that in the EU distributors get to order the gencon exclusive....

Anyway what I was saying is it was worth to try and ask if such thing was possible in the US, if it is not, well ninja shopper is the only way.

Can we please stop bumping heads in this thread? We have almost dead subforum.

EU distributors can't order the GenCon exclusives. The GenCon exclusives (Grunt SpecOp and Chiba Mushashi) are only available through CB directly, either at the event or on their webstore.

Yeah, it's pretty common knowledge that the gencon exclusives are limited to CBs webstore or pickup at the show.

 Kanluwen wrote:

The opposite is true of retailers, who theoretically can order it from CB directly for customers...but why the hell would anyone who has access to a ninja shopper for GenCon ever do that?

Supplies are limited at GenCon, and these items have sold out quickly in the past. A GenCon shopper may not get to the booth in time to buy the items before they are gone. Pre-ordering it more or less guarantees that a person will get the items. Ordering the GenCon offer through a retailer though...

 Red Harvest wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

The opposite is true of retailers, who theoretically can order it from CB directly for customers...but why the hell would anyone who has access to a ninja shopper for GenCon ever do that?

Supplies are limited at GenCon, and these items have sold out quickly in the past. A GenCon shopper may not get to the booth in time to buy the items before they are gone.

CB could always go the way that Forge World does events. They let you place an order for the items, right then and there, if they're sold out of them and not charge you the shipping for it.

Pre-ordering it more or less guarantees that a person will get the items.

Which is it, more or less?

The preorder period is July 24th through August 21st. Part of the reason why it is such a long run-up from CB's own words in the past was so that they could increase casting to match the preorders they get through their own store.

Ordering the GenCon offer through a retailer though...

Like I said, it's a theoretical. You'd need a retailer willing to do it, someone in charge of ordering that is on the ball enough to know that it's a thing...given that some of them can't be bothered to keep track of the new releases it can be a crap shoot at best.

GenCon shoppers are your best bet.

Weird, I know some local players got last years gencon deal from a non local shop and claimed it came from the shops regular distributor.

Didn't pay much attention to it back then since my local game store orders directly from CB.

If that is the case then gencon is probably the only deal, not sure if a store ordering directly from CB is worth after a sufficient number of people order.

Should have been clearer. I was asking about the Beyond expansions. Wasn't concerned at all with the chibi or the other guy. Thanks for the clarification though.

 LunarSol wrote:
Should have been clearer. I was asking about the Beyond expansions. Wasn't concerned at all with the chibi or the other guy. Thanks for the clarification though.

The Beyond sets are general release sets with a pre order bonus miniature. If your FLGS or online retailer of choice stocks Infinity, they will have no problems getting you these sets with the pre order model as long as you pre order in the given time frame.

2016 GenCon Exclusive Unknown Ranger


Regular release released later last year.


2015 GenCon Exclusive Van Zant


Regular Release released later that same year. IMHO better that the Gencon one.


2014 GenCon Exclusive Tabitha Lyons Cosplay Neoterra Bolt

This one is the most rare of all. There were just 200 copies sold.

CB usually releases these exclusive model for $20 US Dollar. It's a way for them cover the cost of the event.
Anyway, while these products seem to have some kind of "bubble" on Ebay after the event. CB usually sells an alternative version with an arms swap months after the event.
I would rather put my money on a CSU or Chasseur figure before any of these.