Geifer wrote:
They're certainly going to need a separate door for their hair...

I hope the other gangs come swiftly as hinted at, if only to get some diversity from the start. Not sure if Necromunda will catch on at my local store, but I don't think it'll do well if we only have Goliath and Escher for four or more weeks. Blood Bowl certainly did not take off with the glacial release of teams.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Of course if the gangs do come swiftly players will then start complaining that the game is neglected and is going to die because the obvious new releases are done

the endless problem of support

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Of course if the gangs do come swiftly players will then start complaining that the game is neglected and is going to die because the obvious new releases are done

the endless problem of support

Dread Master wrote:
Man, I hope hired guns will be plastic kits, and leave the SC's to resin.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Besides, once the six core are done they can move onto revamping the other things:

1. Scavvies
2. Ratskin Renegades.
3. Redemptionists.
4. Spyrers (I still think a plastic Yeld would look amazing!).
5. Enforcers/Arbites.
6. Pit Slaves.
7. Official rules for Genestealer Cults.
8. Chaos Cults.
9. FW doing resin Bounty Hunters, Scum, Wyrds and other things.
10. Squat Miners.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Of course if the gangs do come swiftly players will then start complaining that the game is neglected and is going to die because the obvious new releases are done

the endless problem of support

Promethius wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Of course if the gangs do come swiftly players will then start complaining that the game is neglected and is going to die because the obvious new releases are done

the endless problem of support

They could do what they did with Kal Jericho and move it beyond Necromunda - he became a member of an Inquisitors retinue and boarded a space hulk iirc (said inquisitor being his mum, bizarrely). An Inq28 spin off would go down well with fans.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Of course if the gangs do come swiftly players will then start complaining that the game is neglected and is going to die because the obvious new releases are done

the endless problem of support

If they get the core six gang out straight away? I doubt people will complain (except about the scale, and Delaques if they feth them up... though that last part may just be me). Besides, once the six core are done they can move onto revamping the other things:

1. Scavvies
2. Ratskin Renegades.
3. Redemptionists.
4. Spyrers (I still think a plastic Yeld would look amazing!).
5. Enforcers/Arbites.
6. Pit Slaves.
7. Official rules for Genestealer Cults.
8. Chaos Cults.
9. FW doing resin Bounty Hunters, Scum, Wyrds and other things.
10. Squat Miners.

 silent25 wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Of course if the gangs do come swiftly players will then start complaining that the game is neglected and is going to die because the obvious new releases are done

the endless problem of support

If they get the core six gang out straight away? I doubt people will complain (except about the scale, and Delaques if they feth them up... though that last part may just be me). Besides, once the six core are done they can move onto revamping the other things:

1. Scavvies
2. Ratskin Renegades.
3. Redemptionists.
4. Spyrers (I still think a plastic Yeld would look amazing!).
5. Enforcers/Arbites.
6. Pit Slaves.
7. Official rules for Genestealer Cults.
8. Chaos Cults.
9. FW doing resin Bounty Hunters, Scum, Wyrds and other things.
10. Squat Miners.

I suspect GSC will be the first of these out the gate and may show up even before the rest of the core gangs via a WD article. They require zero new miniatures and have a wide variety to pull from currently on sale.

Vorian wrote:
Mostly because all the previews have shown no heavies, even in full gang shots. Suggests there are none in the box

 Mymearan wrote:

Vorian wrote:
Mostly because all the previews have shown no heavies, even in full gang shots. Suggests there are none in the box

I'm talking about the gang boxes, the Necromunda box didn't have any heavies either.

Vorian wrote:

 Mymearan wrote:

Vorian wrote:
Mostly because all the previews have shown no heavies, even in full gang shots. Suggests there are none in the box

I'm talking about the gang boxes, the Necromunda box didn't have any heavies either.

Yeah, but these are the gang boxes, not starter set miniatures

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
It had 4 pose starter models. Hardly a fair comparison.

Vorian wrote:

 Mymearan wrote:

Vorian wrote:
Mostly because all the previews have shown no heavies, even in full gang shots. Suggests there are none in the box

I'm talking about the gang boxes, the Necromunda box didn't have any heavies either.

Yeah, but these are the gang boxes, not starter set miniatures

"Game loosely based on 8th but expanded mechanics. Intergrates turn sequence, model by model activation. Leaders and champions help.."
"By activating additional models, juices need to be near others to guarantee activation"
"Action based and with the full Rogue Trader stat line...."
"More skill tables including leader and trade ones."
"Plastic gangs and then outlanders then expanding to new gangs!!!! Takes time."
"Working of John Blanche original sketch book for more awesome stuff. Release should be November slot. First 6 gangs release schedule sorted.

"We have an info dump of information for you from speaking to the amazing Specialist Games veteran designer Andy Hoare at The Forge World Open Day 2017.

So we are broadly looking at a game based on the 8th Edition 40k mechanics, but tailored to skirmish warfare. We see the edition of Action Points, that can be used to active gangers in a similar way to how Space Hulk works. Different actions will cost different points, such as activating a Heavy will cost two Action Points, whereas your run of the mill Ganger will cost only one.

We are looking at a release schedule much like BloodBlowl, this is the ‘Preview’, launch of the initial box set will follow in the same sort of timescale as from when BloodBowl was ‘Previewed’ then launched.

The box itself will contain the Escher and Goliath gangers we have seen already, the rules, accoutrements and most likely Shadow War terrain. The Specialist Games studio do not have the resources to produce terrain solely for Necromunda, so they are trail blazing the Shadow War release with all the cool terrain that was released with that boxed set, and subsequently in individual kits until present. The rules will allow for play in the way we are used to on gangways, ramps and gantries, but also in tunnels making use of the Zone Mortalis tiles available from Forge World.

We will see all the gangs from Hive Primus return, along with the gangs from Outlanders and Fanatic. We will also see new gangs and some expansion of the fluff on Necromunda.

HIVE SECONDUS was written about in the Fanatic days, a Hive overrun by Genstealer cult, nuked by the Necromunda Defence Forces to rid the planet of the infestation. However, the hive toppled on its side with most of the Cultists surviving resulting in the Defence Forces building a large trench system in the surrounding Ash Wastes to isolate the remains of the Hive from the rest f the planet. It is hinted we will be visiting this intreaging story in the future!

We will be posting updates as we get them!"

Some interesting info a friend told me today, from him chatting to Andy Hoare:

- Boxed game to have board tiles as they're cheaper to produce, and be set in a sewer-type environment. Escher and Goliath gangs plus rulebook too, obvs.
- Gangs are being reimagined a little (a la GeneCult) with differences between Houses and fleshed-out background. Goliaths are industrial and have a 'rivet gun'. Escher are chem-specialists and all mix up their own chem weapons - apparently you can see vials on the models. They have some form of chem-thrower Flamer weapon.
- Intending to promote Sector Mechanicus scenery and Zone Mortalis kits for use with Necromunda. Specialist Games couldn't have done scenery but GW coming out with Shadow War made it a possibility.
- He was told that the rules are a tweak of Necromunda. Subsequently surprised to then read from the WHCommunity post that they're 8th-based, as that wasn't intimated by AH.
- Roll to hit and roll to see if ammo test needed apparently now separate. Your dramatic chance hits will no longer always somehow be with your final bullet!
- Models have interchangeable hair, faces and arms. 5-model kit x2 per side. Allows lots of combinations without duplicating poses.

Stuff from the FB post -

- "The gameplay we got to experience in the demo was a quick and dirty 4 on 4 (four players with two models each). The game is fast, but VERY crunchy! Lots of special weapons that have to be carefully considered when you choose to use them.

The models we used were the gang leader/named character models from the cards included in the game, but you can also create your own, and there are blank cards you can write on in the box, which can wipe off to make changes or add things to.

There’s a few different dice, a regular d6, with a “Skreagle” as Adam called it (a skull/eagle), scatter dice for grenades (and grenades cause knockback, which can throw people off of walkways!), injury dice (used for determining how badly you wounded a model, and also rolled when you’re attempting to stand back up after taking a flesh wound), and the ammo dice.

The ammo dice involved a really cool mechanic. Firstly, assault weapons roll to see how many wounds are caused, and weapons that are rare and run out of ammo due to your roll have a 6+ reload roll in the next turn. So if your bolter runs out of ammo, you may be out of luck. Makes your weapon choices very tactical as well."

Everything seemed geared towards tactics — you trade activations per model, so you can fake out your opponent by moving in a way that causes them to expose themselves to an attack by another model. That mechanic also makes multiplayer games way faster and more fun, since everyone is constantly taking turns.


There are also cards which give you the ability to react to an event. We saw one which allowed the Goliath gang to charge and do more damage, one called Last Gasp that gave you a last retaliatory shot against an enemy who just killed you, and one called Blood Debt that gives your gang +1 on attacks against an enemy model who killed one of your gangers.

Bottling was interesting. There’s the possibility of both teams bottling out. Downed models give bottling a negative modifier, as your gang is more likely to run away as their buddies lie dying on the floor.

Being in base to base contact with a downed model allows you to make a coup de grace and kill them.

There were a large number of modifiers, so you really had to consider exactly what advantages and disadvantages you were giving yourself based on what you did.

Adam talked about how the Studio campaign is mapping the Hive for their game. As the gangs take territory, they keep a record of the way the tiles were laid out, and then reuse those maps to fight over existing turf, which sounds very cool.

I'm personally thrilled about the blank cards you can write your own gangers on.

*EDIT*
Missed some bits in the comments section -

"Tiles that match the Zone Mortalis tiles from Forgeworld come in the box. There’s no grid based movement or shooting, that’s all in inches. The boxed set focuses on tunnel fighting in the Underhive, the first expansion is Gang War, and is releasing at the same time, goes upwards and includes more about fighting and moving through vertical space.

I asked Adam if that meant that if we were seeing an expansion that moved upwards into the higher levels of the Hive, did that mean we might see something that moved outwards, into the Ash Wastes. He gave the typical “anything is possible” kind of answer, but it seems that they’re focused on each expansion also expanding the environments you fight over."

In response to a comment about the tiles:

"Yeah, the tiles are just there to be a quick and easy play surface, with some interesting gameplay possibilities. I saw a tile with a bridge over a pit, one that was swamped with toxic green goo, etc. they were all double sided.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Possible Necromunda IG regiment?